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If you consider the civilisations of the yester yrs say the Mayans for example , even they had knowledge surpassing what we have today and this was much before us and in simpler times .. quite intriguing ..

So if the Egyptian beliefs of God and life after death are intriguing .. we have an exodus of proofs left behind to fascinate us about the same ..

Mythology for instance is so deeply embedded on our beliefs of religion that at times its quite difficult to belive if its fact or fantasy ..

Good thread. But let us see if we can 'weave' some more!!

Is faith of God or is faith of man? This is one of my stumbling points often. Through the Bible, we have men of faith. But where did the faith orginate? We have Abraham a man of God. We have David, a man after
God's own heart. We have Jesus, the embodiment of God. But was it not God being faithful to these men, that made that them what they were? Or was it these men being faithful to God?

Faith is the substance of things unseen. A Bible passage. Yet all these men were seen and known. It seems to me...that real faith (if unseen) is more of God than man. For God is unseen as well. Thoughts?

My theory of 'forgotten technology' is that it was part of the Tower of Babel.
I pray the tone remains civil here.

No !!!! Pls dont be scared i wont say you will go to hell or it is your karma.

Religion , Faith , God , Belief in A supernatural , Belief in Mother Nature as supreme and Atheism ... all of them exist and each of us to our own.

But i wonder if there is one creator and the message is the same . why do faiths vary ? why is my God named differently than yours ? is it they are different or is it to according to our cultural beliefs? Is there really a heaven and hell or what you would call Karma and its effects ?

More so, should we believe whats come down thro' posterity or work a logic of our own ?

Not to leave an important aspect behind , as a dear friend points out , maybe we are an experiment of a far superior species.

PS : No Fights , Bullying or Mudslinging.
Pls respect the seriousness of the topic , my humble request.


A HEALTHY DEBATE ... I look forward to !!!

Newton's main concern was of a doctrinal nature Ray, as Omega has pointed out. The scriptures themselves he held in high esteem.

Indeed, how would such a powerful intellect on the one hand laud and promote, and yet at the same time, undermine and subvert!

So it was doctrinal corruption that Newton was ayyempting to highlight, ie the trinity.

The validity of the scriptures themselves was never in doubt in Newtons mind. I may be mistaken, but I seem to remember that he researched widely the original Hebrew translations.

He ended up knowing his stuff!

While not one myself, one thing I hear a lot of Atheists saying is (in not these precise words but flowing in this vein of logic, if you will): 'If it is to be taken as a given that there must be one being who is behind all things (or even beings), who must be behind the one being or beings? For this question must follow in the vein of the same logic etc.

And who then must be behind the one being or the beings behind the beings or one being? etc . .

They have a point. Namely that if we look at the world and think to ourselves ‘all this must have come from something’, we must then say to ourselves ‘the something all this came from also must have come from something’ - and then ‘the something from the something all this came from ALSO must have come from something . . . etc and i.e. into absurdity.

Also - never jump too quickly to accepting the things you read in The Bible today as proof that something 'fishy is afoot' since people could not possibly have known THAT all those years ago . . .

Something fishy is afoot, indeed . . .

Sir Isaac Newton (needless to say one of the greatest Geniuses that ever lived was a religious scholar par excellence more than he was anything else) wrote extensively about the notable corruptions and inconsistencies he found in The Bible despite being himself a devout believer . . .

Did you know that? That Isaac Newton wrote more about The Bible and Religion than anyone else and more than anything else he did? Probably not.

One Word: Suppression.

Anway it was good that his words were suppressed, he might have hurt some people's feelings with his findings. And we wouldn't want that now would we?

My theory of 'forgotten technology' is that it was part of the Tower of Babel.
I pray the tone remains civil here.

As i just noticed some people assume this thread to be an outcome of something or against someone , i am sorry to say IT IS NOT.

We are all free to post what we think. So pls. THIS IS NOT AGAINST ANYONE or to annoy anyone.

You are free to post IF YOU WISH .

And I thank you dear lady..

Further, if we are to ponder on the philosophical texts of the times, they were written by mere mortal beings and surpass many a religious beliefs in terms of tolerance and principles of living.

Rrligion was man made,spirituality is what GOD really wanted.....in my opinion.

Which times Riya?

Further, if we are to ponder on the philosophical texts of the times, they were written by mere mortal beings and surpass many a religious beliefs in terms of tolerance and principles of living.