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Is the Book of Mormon another testiment of Jesus Christ

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kitty01
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 7:31 AM CST
I used to go to the Mormon church but stopped because of people telling me Mormons believe in a different Jesus than what is in the bible, and that the bible says not to add or subtract from that book. I was wondering is that just to the last book about the end times or the whole bible? Is the bible not made up of different books put together to make the bible?

The mormons came yesterday to leave a present and it was the book of mormon again plus a video.


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dogsrule
Somewhere , Massachusetts USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:48 AM CST
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I used to go to the Mormon church but stopped because of people telling me Mormons believe in a different Jesus than what is in the bible, and that the bible says not to add or subtract from that book. I was wondering is that just to the last book about the end times or the whole bible? Is the bible not made up of different books put together to make the bible?

The mormons came yesterday to leave a present and it was the book of mormon again plus a video.


I was mormon and married to one for 20 years. I dont go anymore as I dont believe alot of what is being taught. I think I was being supportive of my husband at the time and when in rome... do as the romans.. They believe in the same Jesus Christ as everyone else just feel there is more to the heaven issue than one heaven and hell. THey also believe in levels of heaven based on how well you do here on earth and if your baptized in the temple.
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Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:50 AM CST
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I used to go to the Mormon church but stopped because of people telling me Mormons believe in a different Jesus than what is in the bible, and that the bible says not to add or subtract from that book. I was wondering is that just to the last book about the end times or the whole bible? Is the bible not made up of different books put together to make the bible?

The mormons came yesterday to leave a present and it was the book of mormon again plus a video.


The book of Mormon is not another testament to Jesus Christ - it is obviously a complete work of fiction to anybody with half a brain who reads it conversing
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guitarplayer00
Portland, Oregon USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:55 AM CST
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The book of Mormon is not another testament to Jesus Christ - it is obviously a complete work of fiction to anybody with half a brain who reads it
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kitty01
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 11:01 AM CST
they tell you to read it and to decide if it is real. I only went because of my ex husband, when he died I did not know if I still wanted to go there as I had a hard time believing everything they taught.
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areodine
craig, Missouri USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 11:33 AM CST
I was born into the mormon church and raised as a mormon. All of my relatives on my mothers side are mormon. Basically the book of mormon is a history of the people that lived on the North american continent. I have not had anything to do with the mormon church in about forty years . Most of my problems with the church is the way that they want to take controll of your life and the way you live you it. If you do something that they do not aggree with then you have to go before a bishops court and threatened with excommunication, so on and so forth. I could go on and on about it but I do not have all day

For the person above me that says it is all fiction He is wrong they have used the book of mormon to find lost civilizations by following some of the things written in the book of mormon.

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diogenes
Longview, Texas USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 12:36 PM CST
I started to read the book of Mormon, and I didn't get very far before I began to doubt it's authenticity.

It really reads as if it were fabricated by an uneducated man who was attempting to sound "King Jamesish".
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highplains
Highland Springs, Virginia USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 1:00 PM CST
a complete and utter fallicy......an attempt to glorify MEN......

garbage....fiction......

My .03...cuz .02 is not enough on this one
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diogenes
Longview, Texas USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 1:17 PM CST
I also spent about fourteen hours in a library scouring over every book on Egypt, or world languages. Apparently the language of "Reformed Egyptian" doesn't exist. The book of Mormon was transcribed before the Rosetta Stone was discovered, and Egyptian hieroglyphics were indecypherable.

One of the books I encountered showed a photograph of the "Anthonian Transcript" which is supposed to be a rub of the "plates of ore" onto paper. It did not seem to have any consistent features one might expect from an avanced language or form of writing. It really seemed to me like a desperate attempt to provide credibility to an imaginary document.

Another of the Mormon's sacred books contains an hieroglyph in the front that was translated by Smith. After the discovery of the Rosetta Stone, it was later determined that the heiroglyph was a common burial prayer found in almost any mummies tomb.

Remember also that the Egyptians were obsessed with mummification. They even mummified cats and birds to send messages to their loved ones. Mummies were unearthed in such great quantities that they were even used to fuel the steam engines of the railroad near archeological sites. There were travelling mummy exhibits touring the nation at that time. I think that might be where Smith obtained his heiroglyph, and got the idea to miraculously translate a language that no one understood.
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diogenes
Longview, Texas USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 1:19 PM CST
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I was born into the mormon church and raised as a mormon. All of my relatives on my mothers side are mormon. Basically the book of mormon is a history of the people that lived on the North american continent. I have not had anything to do with the mormon church in about forty years . Most of my problems with the church is the way that they want to take controll of your life and the way you live you it. If you do something that they do not aggree with then you have to go before a bishops court and threatened with excommunication, so on and so forth. I could go on and on about it but I do not have all day

For the person above me that says it is all fiction He is wrong they have used the book of mormon to find lost civilizations by following some of the things written in the book of mormon.

Areodine
To my knowledge there has been no archeological evidence, flora, nor fauna or any other thing that supports the book of Mormon, or the existence of these people in North America.
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kitty01
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 2:05 PM CST
I always liked all the activities that the church had, like all the single events, but I never went to the temple because I did not like that you were not allowed to talk about what went on there after you left even with other mormons or family.
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Firefighter_68
any, Puerto Rico USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 2:17 PM CST
The Christ of Mormonism is not the same Christ of the Bible. 2 Cor.11:3-5 tells us that there will be those who would teach a different Christ. Paul says of them, "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ". So there is a Biblical warning about those who would bring the doctrine of another Jesus and a simple test. Do the Mormons and the Book of Mormon pass that test?

No.

1. In an early book of "Scripture" brought forth by Joseph Smith, the creation account consistently refers to the singular when speaking of God and creation: "I, God, caused . . . I, God, created . . . I, God, saw. . . . " The singular is used 50 times in the second and third chapters of the Book of Moses (1831).

2. In another of Smith’s earlier works, the Book of Mormon (1830), there are no references to a plurality of gods. At best, there is a confusion, at times, between the Father and the Son, leading at times to the extreme of modalism (one divine person who reveals himself sometimes as the Father, sometimes as the Son) or the other extreme of "binitarianism," belief in two persons in God. The Book of Mormon also makes a strong point for God’s spiritual and eternal unity (see Alma 11:44 and 22:10-11, which proclaims that God is the "Great Spirit").

3. Another early work of Smith is the Lectures on Faith (1834-35). There is continual evidence that the first Mormon leader taught a form of bitheism: the Father and the Son are separate gods. The Holy Spirit is merely the "mind" of the two.

4. At about the same time, we begin to see a doctrinal shift. Smith had acquired some mummies and Egyptian papyri. He proclaimed the writings to be those of the patriarch, Abraham, in his own hand, and set out to translate the text. His Book of Abraham records in chapters four and five that "the gods called . . . the gods ordered . . . the gods prepared" some 45 times. Smith thus introduces the notion of a plurality of gods.

5. The clearest exposition of this departure from traditional Christian doctrine is seen in Smith’s tale of a "vision" he had as a boy of 14. Both the Father and the Son appeared to him, he wrote; they were two separate "personages." This story of two gods was not authorized and distributed by the church until 1838, after his Book of Abraham had paved the way for polytheism.
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kitty01
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 3:54 PM CST
They believe that Jesus is the creater of this earth system and that he is the god of this world. The father is the creater of a different world and the god of that world. That is where Jesus gets how to be the savior of this world as his father was the savior of his world.
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cherokeemoon
grove, Oklahoma USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 9:33 PM CST
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They believe that Jesus is the creater of this earth system and that he is the god of this world. The father is the creater of a different world and the god of that world. That is where Jesus gets how to be the savior of this world as his father was the savior of his world.
Tk u for this forum.I knew they were not right,but I didnt know what or how they believed. handshake
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countrygirl62
Taylorsville, Utah USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 10:54 PM CST
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I used to go to the Mormon church but stopped because of people telling me Mormons believe in a different Jesus than what is in the bible, and that the bible says not to add or subtract from that book. I was wondering is that just to the last book about the end times or the whole bible? Is the bible not made up of different books put together to make the bible?

The mormons came yesterday to leave a present and it was the book of mormon again plus a video.


Very interesting. I live in Utah and live around alot of mormons, and never knew alot of this. I have to mind my own business, as I have a couple of family members that are mormon.

But what kind of religion keeps secrets???rolling eyes
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Firefighter_68
any, Puerto Rico USA
Posted: Dec 28, 2007, 9:01 AM CST
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Very interesting. I live in Utah and live around alot of mormons, and never knew alot of this. I have to mind my own business, as I have a couple of family members that are mormon.

But what kind of religion keeps secrets???
But what kind of religion keeps secrets??? THEY DON'T



CULTS DO...........
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Posted: Dec 28, 2007, 9:03 AM CST
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I was born into the mormon church and raised as a mormon. All of my relatives on my mothers side are mormon. Basically the book of mormon is a history of the people that lived on the North american continent. I have not had anything to do with the mormon church in about forty years . Most of my problems with the church is the way that they want to take controll of your life and the way you live you it. If you do something that they do not aggree with then you have to go before a bishops court and threatened with excommunication, so on and so forth. I could go on and on about it but I do not have all day

For the person above me that says it is all fiction He is wrong they have used the book of mormon to find lost civilizations by following some of the things written in the book of mormon.

Areodine
Sorry, I've read the book of Mormon and to me it's a total fake - I stand by my belief until proved otherwise....your claim of it being used to find lost civilisations is no proof to me!
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Posted: Dec 28, 2007, 9:04 AM CST
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I started to read the book of Mormon, and I didn't get very far before I began to doubt it's authenticity.

It really reads as if it were fabricated by an uneducated man who was attempting to sound "King Jamesish".
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kitty01
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Dec 28, 2007, 12:53 PM CST
On the outside everything looks so good. They are family orientated, with lots to do for the kids and teenagers. I did enjoy the dances and suppers, but what got to me was the testimonies, they always said they were glad they found the church not found Jesus. When I asked about this they said it is because the church is Jesus.
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kitty01
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Dec 28, 2007, 12:57 PM CST
Could there have been people on a different content that Jesus did go and visit during the 3 days after he died on the cross. That is where the Book of Mormon is to have come from.
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