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What is Life?

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EastbayRay
Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:42 PM CST
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Ok I gotcha so far as what you noted above ... youre saying without mass there is no energy possible ....hmmmmmm

does that not prove what i am saying ... without mass =no energy(you say) . therefor no life... extrapolation no life = no energy ..


doesnt that prove tht life is energy.?
Yes, it does prove that life is energy. But it does not prove that 'ALL life is energy’ since energy is IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT MASS (therefore ‘LIFE’ – if it is claimed to be energy - is impossible without mass).

AND THERFORE: ALL LIFE IS NOT ENERGY!

Even kinetic energy is the extra energy an object posseses due to its motion. Without that object no energy is possible.

It is like saying: all of an object is energy.


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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:43 PM CST
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also chemical reactions and the energy they produce
energy they produce... the energy was there already just doesnt become measureable in this case until it is produced as you put it.
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:43 PM CST
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already established electricity is alive
nuclear energy, chemical reactions that release energy such as in explosionswink
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:45 PM CST
so, which bit of any object isnt energy then?
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:45 PM CST
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Yes, it does prove that life is energy. But it does not prove that 'ALL life is energy’ since energy is IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT MASS (therefore ‘LIFE’ – if it is claimed to be energy - is impossible without mass).

AND THERFORE: ALL LIFE IS NOT ENERGY!

Even kinetic energy is the extra energy an object posseses due to its motion. Without that object no energy is possible.

It is like saying: all of an object is energy.


your argument is erroneous; logical thinking 101
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EastbayRay
Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:47 PM CST
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the ray .. please illustrate a life that is not energy.
Illustrate a life that is possible without mass? D'oh!
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:48 PM CST
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your argument is erroneous; logical thinking 101
all energy is not life

all life is energy
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:49 PM CST
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Yes, it does prove that life is energy. But it does not prove that 'ALL life is energy’ since energy is IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT MASS (therefore ‘LIFE’ – if it is claimed to be energy - is impossible without mass).

AND THERFORE: ALL LIFE IS NOT ENERGY!

Even kinetic energy is the extra energy an object posseses due to its motion. Without that object no energy is possible.

It is like saying: all of an object is energy.


two types of energy right .. kinetic being one the other is dormant or stable or something I forget my physics classes ...?

it cant be created or destroyed, it can only be transferred .. yes .. how am I doing so far?


Why do you assert that all of an object is not energy, since all of its contained particles move in motion of its encompassed and contained energy? its entire mass moves ... yes?

I am still also wondering what 'life' you are saying is not energy?
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:49 PM CST
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Illustrate a life that is possible without mass?
rolling on the floor laughing you in outer space:cheers
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:52 PM CST
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so, which bit of any object isnt energy then?
it's all energy but it doesn't automatically translate into life energy
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:52 PM CST
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Illustrate a life that is possible without mass?
I have Ray ... you have been ignoring it ...

Kurlean (sp) photography ...
that frog with its severed limb ... the limb (its mass) is tossed in the bin far from our froggy

the energy field shows ""still attached to the frog"" , not to the limb

the lmb is mass granted, but not life as a dead log in the forest. ///
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EastbayRay
Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:53 PM CST
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so, which bit of any object isnt energy then?
Tell me which bit of an object isn't mass?D'oh!

I love ya Trish. All I am saying - trying to explain - is that energy is not possible without mass and visa versa.

Therefore all life cannot be 'just' energy. Energy is not possible without mass (and visa versa).

Energy-mass equivalence!
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:54 PM CST
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it's all energy but it doesn't automatically translate into life energy
hmmmm confused .. maybe ........confused
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:56 PM CST
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Tell me which bit of an object isn't mass?

I love ya Trish. All I am saying - trying to explain - is that energy is not possible without mass and visa versa.

Therefore all life cannot be 'just' energy. Energy is not possible without mass (and visa versa).

Energy-mass equivalence!
it is just that but we have not figured it out yet
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:57 PM CST
any object whatsoever is the result of the energy vibrations of the molecules which hold it together dunno
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EastbayRay
Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 8:57 PM CST
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it's all energy but it doesn't automatically translate into life energy
Bollocks.grin cheers
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 9:06 PM CST
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it's all energy but it doesn't automatically translate into life energy
still not grasping where this leads to in proof that not all energy is life ... then what is it? just energy? live energy? dead energy? the potential for life/energy... ...

quantim mechanics of choas batman!




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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 9:06 PM CST
I'd like to ask you a hypothetical question Ray; does electricity cease to exist when it isn't conducible?
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EastbayRay
Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 9:07 PM CST
Energy is not possible without mass. All life is not energy.

Good night all.cheers kiss hug devil

Ray is always right.frustrated
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Dec 27, 2007, 9:08 PM CST
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still not grasping where this leads to in proof that not all energy is life ... then what is it? just energy? live energy? dead energy? the potential for life/energy... ...

quantim mechanics of choas batman!




dead energyrolling on the floor laughing wine handshake
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