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No No, Bad Ray.

He s recommending withholding knowledge, not a good thing to a free thinker such as yourself.

And he praises the FRENCH?

And to top it off he'd be upst by your penchant for treading on the toes of puppies! Just think what he'd think if he knew what you do to kittens!

exactly... no diatribe intended. as regards to the 'are women equal to men' thread... i stand my ground. was going to start a whole new argument about the subject, but i've been travelling all day, just arrived home, and honesty... don't have an idea why i'm still awake and on CS. maybe i'm hoping for a flower.... hmm

Hitler/Nazi Germany as a case study of the subjectivity of evil:

Despite what we have always been shown, the Americans only came to the rescue of Europe after they were attacked at Pearl Harbor by Japan - and Germany, being an ally of Japan, declared war on America. Hitler's ‘biggest mistake.’

There is a brilliant book written by Philip K Dick called ‘The Man in The High Castle’ in which Germany and Japan win the war and the entire world is ruled, conquered and divided by them.
I believe the author made a fundamental mistake himself.
A better scenario would be to see what would have happened if Hitler had broken his ties with Japan (as the wiser military decision to have taken) when they declared war on America via Pearl Harbor . . .

What indeed would have happened THEN?

Sadly, people are brain-washed with the gung-ho good guy shit and so cannot conceive that America could have done anything other than ‘the right thing’. America always does the right thing, of course.

Why did they wait until they were attacked then?

I do not really hate Hitler or even consider him ‘evil’. As a matter of fact I have a picture of Hitler in my study when he was a baby, to remind me that 'evil' is something subjectively misunderstood, and to remind me that an individual is utterly determined by his character and the social influential forces of the times into which he is born.

Hitler’s genocide of the Jews was an estimated six million (and we can see this as ‘the founding of his nation and ideal’); America’s ‘founding genocide’ was of an estimated 100 million Native Americans in the largest human genocide in the history of the world. IN GOD WE TRUST indeed!

I would call Hitler a synthesis of the 'Inhuman' and 'Superhuman'. [like Napoleon] Something that can be admired as much as despised:

Admired for his fearlessness and willing, his bravery and courage (Iron Cross), his military genius, his oratory brilliance, his ability to turn his entire nation into something the likes of which the world had never before seen.

And desPISED for his anti-Semitism, his hatred of the Jews, his mad ideals, his unyielding hardness and lack of compassion - INDEED his madness on the whole. He is the ‘antithesis of the saint’ yet has the future of his people in his heart and mind.

And of course the Jews were completely innocent?, they were not seizing the upper hand of Germany’s economic power, with Jews refusing to treat sick Germans and even German children whose families could not afford a doctor and leaving them to die and many other ‘inhuman’ things.

I will never forget what Hitler said in My Struggle: ‘I did not look around me and think to myself: are these Jews? I though to myself: are these GERMANS?’

They owned all the jewelry businesses, the shops, had all the best jobs, the largest houses, treated the Germans poorly, were not Christians (the majority of the Germans were [the soldiers had Holy Bibles with them), banded together and did business together and excluded the Germans, did not employ them [except as house servants] etc – and, the biggest irony of all, is that they considered themselves and still consider themselves and always have considered themselves as the REAL super race: ‘the chosen people of God’.

Now I do not condone in anyway what Hitler did EVER!!!!!, I just wish to illustrate that Good and Evil is seen as something that has only two sides, whereas in fact good and evil is a single synthesis, like a diamond and DIAMOND hard, with lots of different sides.

And so, evil and good (personally in a world like this I believe only in Evil and Lesser Evil) can be viewed from many different perspectives and in the end, 'War does not determine who is right, only who is left' as Bertrand Russell once said.

Nevertheless, who is left is always ‘who is right’. If the Germans had won the German’s would have been right, and we would all overlook the huge genocide that ensued as something that was inevitable and necessary but nevertheless inhuman, just like what the Americans say of the largest genocide in human history of the Native Americans:

Inevitable to the progress of mankind! They had to be cleared out of the way etc. Unfortunately it did not include the progress of the Native Americans but their annihilation.

I repeat again as you consider this: I do not condone what Hitler did in ANYWAY!!!!

oops... i meant 'honestly'

Silly...you didn't give is a diatribe...look around at some of the others...and your post was breezy and easy to digest!

I wouldn't criticize and praise in the same post Cherry.

So you too have seen sensless death. I have seen enough, in a church or in a ditch does not change it.
Killing is killing, whether you use a 'humane' lethal injection or a bullet to the brain.

Duh. Darwinism is not creationism... think I got that one.

You obviously are not aware that creationism, and intellegent design are NOT allowed to be taught in public schools in the USA. So much for freedom of speech, hmm?

Obviously you fear that your precious Darwin cannot compete in a free market, and so desire to squelch any free debate.

oh was I? didn't realize that. i only know that i'm out of cig papers n now the shops r closed... now that is simply EVIL.

shines brightly- slightly--- then self extinguishes once again into the darkness

I will say nothing.

So you too have seen sensless death. I have seen enough, in a church or in a ditch does not change it.
Killing is killing, whether you use a 'humane' lethal injection or a bullet to the brain.

Duh. Darwinism is not creationism... think I got that one.

You obviously are not aware that creationism, and intellegent design are NOT allowed to be taught in public schools in the USA. So much for freedom of speech, hmm?

Obviously you fear that your precious Darwin cannot compete in a free market, and so desire to squelch any free debate.

"This is blantant religious clap trap" "This isn't any comment on religious beliefs" Enlighten me please, which is it?

When did my views get taken onboard? 1996-2000, when I WAS an elected official.

Get off your A** and Do something, then lecture me.

Ray isn't blind, just has his eyes closed.

And I thought you believed in Peter Pan and Shopenhiemer!

This thread is to me: what is evil? I’m reading it and you just casually say ‘quite possibly . . . love . . . is the opposite of evil’ as a fricken after-thought.

And its like BAM. You just described what evil IS without even having to (and made it fully clear and understandable) - by virtue of proposing its possible 'pure opposite' for our consideration.

I can now take love and all its power and all its promise and all the hope it brings with it and the GOOD (as something indescribable yet utterly understood), and know that evil is the opposite of all that. If you see what I’m saying? Because we can really no more define love than evil, yet we know WHAT LOVE IS, we can FEEL it, it is INSTINCT and we know it is GOOD.

I say again, that was a brilliant ‘after thought’ my man. Complexity lies within simplicity itself!!!

It is simple...It's easy to make things complex with overanalysis when all along the answer can always be summed up in a few words...I choose simple...You're less likely to loose track of what the real issue is!!!!!!!!

yes ray ... what I've been trying to tell ... I am glad you have had this epiphone' ...they are truly amazing moments.



Life+ (E=mc*2) simple..

and Ray ...













I wasn't being casual .... to make two posts was the use of dramatic effect ....

scene 2....

oh so we've reached a conclusion? great. evil is the opposite of love. hmm can be proud that's it is quite similar to what i said... evil is the opposite of what is 'good'... to whatever the meaning of 'goodness' holds to the individual. now i can therefore take myself to bed and rest... without papers. no newsagents open 24hrs?? hmm... totally evil.

It’s an emotional moment, and I do not hold grudges against people for my disagreements of their propositions in other posts.

Except that stupid gnome who always seems to be defending his perfect self instead of his arguments.

sorry I sucked the thought from your energy waves, right out of your mind ... thought theft it was ...