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Personally I think serious offenders should be jailed but 'unsupervised' with the exception of making sure they don't escape.. That way they deal with the same sort of people they are and can mame and mutilate one another. Let em cull their own herds so to speak. If they feel/think barbarianism is acceptable then let them deal with others who think and act that way. Just give them an arena to play in.

Its a tad idealistic to think that if someone punched you in the head that you should pay to have his/her hand doctored and taken care of while you suffer the pain and indignity of his/her behavior? It like saying I'll give $1000.00 if you punch me in the head, rob my store, violate my life and hack my leg off??

there's 'some' hope for less violent offenders I think, but most crime lies in the hands of parental obligations that often are not there and faulty government programs, and governments that pisz money away on wars, instead of cleaning up at home first.

jmho

Well hillbillyhoney, it is different here with the young offenders. They never named, will have no record, and quite frankly the older people get these young ones under 16 to commit the crimes, because they will have no record and absolutely nothing happens to them, unlike the U.S.

WOW...your response blew me away...thanks for putting in your opinion....I like the way you think...

That's some pretty sick lawmaking isn't it? Those young people know and take advantage of it as well. Thats why they are called criminal minds. I have seen kids like abusing the heck out of cops trying to establish some order and they just laugh at them.. I feel sorry for the cops.

Well put!!!!!!!

Its frustrating for some1 in my position.....I'm a small business owner and I can barely afford medical insurance or go without yet my taxes go to paying theirs. That's BS!!!!!!!
I'd be better off if i were a criminal and got seriously injured rather than trying to work my *** off and pay taxes. We are 1 messed up society with our priorities all jacked up.

England did this a long time ago ... put all their crimanals on a boat to Australia and dumped them off ... I guess it worked out ok ... cos aussie's are ok...

That is definitley sick lawmaking. The crime here escalated like crazy because of it. They get absolutely nothing, except maybe a curfew. Sad. Even the cops disagree with this one. They are tired of it, it makes their job impossible. I could scream everytime I see them getting away with this.

It is not seeking revenge for someone to pay for their crimes.It is getting retribution that is due the families who lost someone.I can't see serving justice as being blind,being blind would be to not do nothing about it.And then there is your problem we start turning our eyes from something just to let it go,it will get worser.It only makes the fire hotter if things are not dealt with.We live by the sword we die by the sword.And if you commit a heinous crime I think you took yourself there to this point of no return,why should we give you an exit?

did you ever see the movie "Escape From New York"?

may we shoud have a prison system along those lines, perhaps put them all on an isolated island in the middle of the ocean, & let them fend for themselves.

of course to make sure of no escape there would have to be patrolling & maybe a barrier with hungry sharks inside the barrier.

There is nothing here for the 16 and under. Absolutely nothing. Don't have to pay anything or enter into any kind of rehabilitation.

Will be back shortly, our young offenders act gets my blood pressure sky high. See you soon. After I eat.

Yet as many times the most violent offenders are sent to the worse kinds of enviroment lockups,so they too are lost in the system and end up in a mininum security.Is that fair no way but they fall back on red tape.To hell with that no one is paying attention here all they do is go into a section if a fight breaks out or to monitor them as they eat so no one gets shanked.All they do is give the prisoner a number and for the rest of whatever time they lose their name only a number.So is it fair that the prison system needs a overhaul.Take a look at all these escapes going on,mostly you have criminals of types.And I agree with putting them together but its the prison system is slack in this department.While we are put at risk.

Its very sad.. one of those criminal midgets whose parents have long evacuated their responsibility as a guide le alone a parent, can walk into your house any time of day or night, rip you off, shoot your dog and laugh at you when you feel threatened and violated ... and the worst that happens is juvey court.

Then the cops show up and do this

They even do that for more serious stuff and older offenders because you have to come up with ways to 'prove' that this person committed some criminal act on you, your bloody half hanging limb isn't enough. you have to spend countless dollars and time in court for what ... criminal justice? what happened to your justice?

Lets be civil!! fark that back at the criminal I say.. but for the civil who get mugged and shyte on the rule is 'civil obedience' and we all tow the line.

Criminals play us like fiddles.... Ever read about Damass Insane? Suddam and his thoughts about killing and holy wars. This dude took full advantage of the system of how civil people think and process justice to rule and kill.

And those young criminal minds grow up to be major players in a crimina;l world.But yet when they were young why didn't we do something?Did we not react because of others looking at us calling us failures because our kids done something bad.I am all for letting them get a bitter taste of just where a life of crime will end them up at.

I'm against death penalty. A murder is a murder, also when it's done by the state.

No, that is not why they are called criminal minds, it is why they are called juvenile offenders. How many kids make one mistake, learn from it, then go on to live productive lives? Many more than become hardened criminals, I'd wager.

I think the key word in you post is "kids". That's what they are, so better to try to rehabilitate than lock them away like they are some evil criminal masterminds.

I absolutely agree...

So u say with a murderer we slap him on the hand give him back his right to live,after taking another life.This makes no sense don't you believe that a life took one should have to pay with his.Is that fair?Thats whats wrong with our prisons now they are overcrowded.Murderers are put into the prison population only to kill again.And he gets by with it,cause now you have your gangs in there and they hold tight to the other.So here you got now fear going on that you can be killed by this sadistic killer.Because the courts deemed him life in prison to be let out to feed among the living.Taking lives still but doing it in the glory of a gang.Lets get real here.

in canada it doesn't quite work that way and thats what is being discussed here. kids under 16 cannot be prosecuted like an adult and end being let off for 'whatever' they do. They get the taste for getting away with it and because the cannot be given serious punishment and have no rehab happening for them ....

I agree, some kids, even grown ups can learn and will, that rehab works for some, but only for some, the size and need for jails is beyond capacity... that in itself speaks volumes against the success of current justice systems.

I'm not big on killing murderers either, or anyone for that matter, I'm just saying let them deal with other murderers in their own enviroment, let them beat each other up, let god sort them out. The jails would soon be down to controlled levels with people who wanted and would succeed with rehab.