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What are two sides of the death penalty?

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EastbayRay
Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:41 PM CST
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This is getting a little out loud.Its that people who kill with no rhyme or reason that have or serve no purpose in every day life.In Quantico,Va studies are made on the behavior traits of a killer.There are different kinds ,sorted into different classes but they all are beyond ,any help.And so in your thinking if they kill we should lock them up,give them a leeway to kill.Sometimes matters have to be dealt with,and laws have to be governed that is why we made them.
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OverTheWindow
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:41 PM CST
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Jan1305
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:47 PM CST
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Jan he did say he was coming at this from a criminal thought process .. thinking like a criminal...

and a criminal would indeed think as ray has suggested, incompassionately ... he does or he/she would not choose to kill at all...

he is smart if not young, but one sometimes has to follow very closely where he is coming from... and that was from a criminal point of view, incompassionate, delusional etc ...

Well thank you for your interpretation of Ray's post but I think I understood what he was saying without your help.

I agree some of the points raised were general, but Ray used the first person singular a number of times, saying he had no problem with advocating the death penalty.

I also believe that Ray would disagree with your assertion, albeit on his behalf, that all killers are without compassion.

As Ray has said before I believe, nothing is black and white, I would include murder in that perception too.

Please excuse my references to you if you are reading this Ray, it's quite rude I know and not something I like doing I'm simply responding to your bosom buddy Al.
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EastbayRay
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:47 PM CST
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cant say I'm with you on the death sentence though ray, the rest is well thought I think, provided we are dsicussing the more heanous of crimes.

I am more a mind to put them together and let them all sort it out, but only because god (if there is one) has donw this with us all, placed us on an island to sort things out. By placing them (criminals) in their own hellish environment leaves it to gods hands again. This something though seemingly barbaric, suits my hands absolution as it were.

For me to say, you should be dead or lose your life is me playing god and though I may be in his/her image I don't consider myself solely wise enough to make such a choice on the ultimate of decisions of life for another....however; murderers do haver that thought, that they can play god over a victim's life, so let 'em do it together.

Wars are just as ill-thought as murder.. presidents and kings who seldom see war at all, send your daughters and sons off to do their battles? I say let george and saddam fight in a ring together, whatever weapons they want, weiner gougers, head mashers, ball krimpers, whatever; winner gets to control the oil for ten years and then another pair of idot rulers can fight over it...

stop sending my kids after your shyte! meglomaniacs!

That's a good way of looking at it B! And I speak only of the most heinous crimes!!!

Yours is a most interesting concept if only it hadn’t been made into a movie with Ray Latoya.

At bottom, I am with anyone who does not shy away from the fact that such heinous crimes deserve the highest punishment the law can deliver. Whatever that may be.

I am particularly with those who are for STRONGER punishments, stronger laws and stronger deterrents.



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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:47 PM CST
Ray said-

""But we will not kill an Inhuman being, because that might make US inhuman.""

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sound perspective Ray

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EastbayRay
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:52 PM CST
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Well thank you for your interpretation of Ray's post but I think I understood what he was saying without your help.

I agree some of the points raised were general, but Ray used the first person singular a number of times, saying he had no problem with advocating the death penalty.

I also believe that Ray would disagree with your assertion, albeit on his behalf, that all killers are without compassion.

As Ray has said before I believe, nothing is black and white, I would include murder in that perception too.

Please excuse my references to you if you are reading this Ray, it's quite rude I know and not something I like doing I'm simply responding to your bosom buddy Al.
No I take into account what you are saying Jan and you are quite right!

But what is right and what is wrong is not always a simple case of, as it were . . . black and white.

However . . . you are quite right!!! dunno
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:52 PM CST
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That's a good way of looking at it B! And I speak only of the most heinous crimes!!!

Yours is a most interesting concept if only it hadn’t been made into a movie with Ray Latoya.

At bottom, I am with anyone who does not shy away from the fact that such heinous crimes deserve the highest punishment the law can deliver. Whatever that may be.

I am particularly with those who are for STRONGER punishments, stronger laws and stronger deterrents.



well you know how I am ray , a lover will meet a lover, a recalcitrant man will meet a recalcitrant man, an obstinate man will meet an obstinate man; a murderer 'should' meet a murderer.

The strength that punsihes one is the strength that one uses. Balance, provided by newton. grin


I don't want to play god, just help him out a little.. cool


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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:54 PM CST
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Well thank you for your interpretation of Ray's post but I think I understood what he was saying without your help.

I agree some of the points raised were general, but Ray used the first person singular a number of times, saying he had no problem with advocating the death penalty.

I also believe that Ray would disagree with your assertion, albeit on his behalf, that all killers are without compassion.

As Ray has said before I believe, nothing is black and white, I would include murder in that perception too.

Please excuse my references to you if you are reading this Ray, it's quite rude I know and not something I like doing I'm simply responding to your bosom buddy Al.
I stand corrected ... bowing


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Jan1305
(Moscow region temporarily), Murcia Spain
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 6:56 PM CST
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I stand corrected ...


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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:00 PM CST
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To Al and Ray and

Buenas noches.
later Jan

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EastbayRay
Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:01 PM CST
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Ray said-

""But we will not kill an Inhuman being, because that might make US inhuman.""



sound perspective Ray

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Just don’t forget that:

We already are. We live by consuming the living until dead.


Good posts Al!!!

THIS time!

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EastbayRay
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:02 PM CST
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To Al and Ray and

Buenas noches.
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EastbayRay
Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:05 PM CST
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well you know how I am ray , a lover will meet a lover, a recalcitrant man will meet a recalcitrant man, an obstinate man will meet an obstinate man; a murderer 'should' meet a murderer.

The strength that punsihes one is the strength that one uses. Balance, provided by newton.


I don't want to play god, just help him out a little..


Yes, but sometimes a rapist will meet a lover, and sometimes a pedophile will meet a child, and a mugger an old man, and a human-bomb a school bus of kids, and an armed burglar with a gun and a knife a house of sleeping kids. . .

And the problem persists.

Don’t sell me ideals old boy!!!

But you are quite right!!! Good night! cheers comfort
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:06 PM CST
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Yes, but sometimes a rapist will meet a lover, and sometimes a pedophile will meet a child, and a mugger an old man, and a human-bomb a school bus of kids, and an armed burglar with a gun and a knife a house of sleeping kids. . .

And the problem persists.

Don’t sell me ideals old boy!!!

But you are quite right!!! Good night!
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EastbayRay
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:11 PM CST
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Hey, how's this for sticking out tongue

Go and take a look at the ladies who have been rating my new pic, and check out Chenlili.

They just love me for some reason my man!!!

She's really nice and I hope I can somehow convince her to join the forums! She does educational technology in Shanghai!!!

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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:14 PM CST
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Hey, how's this for

Go and take a look at the ladies who have been rating my new pic, and check out Chenlili.

They just love me for some reason my man!!!

She's really nice and I hope I can somehow convince her to join the forums! She does educational technology in Shanghai!!!

dont sell me ideas my man .. sell me porn!


pic rating is over 'ray'ted ray ... they dont know you had no personality before this new years eve ... hey this new thing could be win win for you..!




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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:18 PM CST
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do what you wanna do ooh ooh
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and in b natural !! rolling on the floor laughing


mama's and papas .. 1964 ...
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EastbayRay
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:19 PM CST
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dont sell me ideas my man .. sell me porn!


pic rating is over 'ray'ted ray ... they dont know you had no personality before this new years eve ... hey this new thing could be win win for you..!




I’m already corresponding with her old bean . . . haven’t heard from Yumie. confused

But she sure dug me! grin
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:21 PM CST
"Thou shalt not kill"
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EastbayRay
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Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 7:21 PM CST
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chenelili

go where you wanna go ohoh
do what you wanna do ooh ooh
beee what you wanna be ee ee

and in b natural !!


mama's and papas .. 1964 ...
Nah, she's a nice girl my man!

. . . I think I'm gonna go live in China. I prefer the Eastern outlook on life anyway.

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