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U.S. lets in fewer Iraqi refugees, not more




Aseeker
Seattle USA
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 9:36 AM CST
Just another sign that our president does not care about national security.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22476090/
U.S. lets in fewer Iraqi refugees, not more
Steady decline comes despite promises to boost admissions
“WASHINGTON - U.S. admissions of Iraqi refugees are nose-diving amid bureaucratic in-fighting, despite the Bush administration's pledge to boost them to roughly 1,000 per month, according to State Department statistics obtained by The Associated Press…
The steady decline — from 450 in October to 362 in November and 245 in December — means the administration will have to allow in 10,943 Iraqis over the next nine months, or roughly 1,215 per month, to meet the target it has set for itself.”
And I say screw his target, how about getting real? As refugees, just what kind of citizenship requirements do they even have? Way too many gain entry into this country with the empty claims of needing “asylum”. Even the nazi war criminals did that.

Why should we up the numbers on these specific refugees, especially during a time when for all we know, they are just terrorists trying to get into the country? Even if we weren’t at war with them, why should any country be getting more “upping” on their immigration number over any other? With the overwhelming problem of so many illegal immigrants in this country, why is Bush working to let more immigrants in instead of securing the borders so we can get this mess cleaned up first?

It is getting to the point where I feel Bush is TRYING to do as much damage as possible before he leaves office so that the next pres will be spending their entire term on clean up, and even more so just out of spite because he knows how many of us are hating on him by now.
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 9:59 AM CST
Don't we need the Iraqi's to stay over there for target practice?? How will we get rid of Iranians, if we don't practice on the Iraqis?
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sexophone
Gothenburg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 11:12 AM CST
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Just another sign that our president does not care about national security.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22476090/
U.S. lets in fewer Iraqi refugees, not more
Steady decline comes despite promises to boost admissions
“WASHINGTON - U.S. admissions of Iraqi refugees are nose-diving amid bureaucratic in-fighting, despite the Bush administration's pledge to boost them to roughly 1,000 per month, according to State Department statistics obtained by The Associated Press…
The steady decline — from 450 in October to 362 in November and 245 in December — means the administration will have to allow in 10,943 Iraqis over the next nine months, or roughly 1,215 per month, to meet the target it has set for itself.”
And I say screw his target, how about getting real? As refugees, just what kind of citizenship requirements do they even have? Way too many gain entry into this country with the empty claims of needing “asylum”. Even the nazi war criminals did that.

Why should we up the numbers on these specific refugees, especially during a time when for all we know, they are just terrorists trying to get into the country? Even if we weren’t at war with them, why should any country be getting more “upping” on their immigration number over any other? With the overwhelming problem of so many illegal immigrants in this country, why is Bush working to let more immigrants in instead of securing the borders so we can get this mess cleaned up first?

It is getting to the point where I feel Bush is TRYING to do as much damage as possible before he leaves office so that the next pres will be spending their entire term on clean up, and even more so just out of spite because he knows how many of us are hating on him by now.
brent crude is a very buoyant legal tender ..... you take their oil, you take the responsibility ..... america's allies are in the same boat and they know they have made the mistakesof their lives, ..... it is better in the u.s where they haven't begun to show their true colors, here in sweden, there are smashed glass at almost all the b/stops and tram stops, violence is a daily occurence and i guess i don't expect less from people that are yet to be cured from post-war trauma ...... or should i say ........ post rip-off trauma .......cool
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gentlepaws
Any town, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 11:38 AM CST
"securing the borders so we can get this mess cleaned up first"?

Securing the borders is impossible, given the Mexican/Canadian borders and two coasts. Akin to trying to keep ants off a 1000 acre farm.
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fireliter
Allen Park, Michigan USA
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 11:52 AM CST
In response to:
Just another sign that our president does not care about national security.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22476090/
U.S. lets in fewer Iraqi refugees, not more
Steady decline comes despite promises to boost admissions
“WASHINGTON - U.S. admissions of Iraqi refugees are nose-diving amid bureaucratic in-fighting, despite the Bush administration's pledge to boost them to roughly 1,000 per month, according to State Department statistics obtained by The Associated Press…
The steady decline — from 450 in October to 362 in November and 245 in December — means the administration will have to allow in 10,943 Iraqis over the next nine months, or roughly 1,215 per month, to meet the target it has set for itself.”
And I say screw his target, how about getting real? As refugees, just what kind of citizenship requirements do they even have? Way too many gain entry into this country with the empty claims of needing “asylum”. Even the nazi war criminals did that.

Why should we up the numbers on these specific refugees, especially during a time when for all we know, they are just terrorists trying to get into the country? Even if we weren’t at war with them, why should any country be getting more “upping” on their immigration number over any other? With the overwhelming problem of so many illegal immigrants in this country, why is Bush working to let more immigrants in instead of securing the borders so we can get this mess cleaned up first?

It is getting to the point where I feel Bush is TRYING to do as much damage as possible before he leaves office so that the next pres will be spending their entire term on clean up, and even more so just out of spite because he knows how many of us are hating on him by now.
consider allowing"refugees" in to America as a bargaining chip to help acquire a stability to the region... callous as it may sound, Remember someone from over there had to convince/sell G.W. on the idea to invade/occupy to the extent we have.
also those countries that have taken in the those same refugees well, to take someones unwanted stuff off their hands is alwaus a good bargaining tool ...Sorta like, we will take them if you......

cold, heartless, manipulative, callous? perhaps....
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TTom50
Orlando, Florida USA
Posted: Jan 3, 2008, 12:14 PM CST
Predient Bush Senior Administration had a very interesting passport program for foriegners. Basically, it was invest in a US business to 49%
with $500K+ that employed 19 or more. And you got 3 US passports.

I think that the Bush's have had strange thoughts on immigration and foreign entry into the country for many years. When we bring displaced persons here, we are only abetting the inability of the host country to solve its own problems.

Post WWII, millions of Europeans got entry into country. But few Japanese did. The vital difference to the European entry was two programs The brain drain (they needed to have a needed US skill) and if they were presecuted (humanitarian reasons) . We are not appling those standards to today's immigration.

Now simply being displaced and they will make a case for your immigration here. In doing so, we will never get the Iraqi gov't to solve the displacement problem. Why should they?
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Aseeker
Seattle USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 11:05 AM CST
This morning I read articles that seemed to completely contradict each other. One saying these refugees were returning, so they have their hands out for cash to "support" them. The other saying how they were still leaving. Hell, these people don't even really know what is going on over there, but they sure do use any excuse to ask for cash if they can find one.
As far as taking the "trash" from another country, not only did the Cuba trash come here a while back, they are still smuggling people in through Florida, and apparently the Coast Guard has about had enough of this sick BS.
http://fieldnotes.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/04/548086.aspx
"COAST GUARD CRITICIZES CUBAN-AMERICANS
MIAMI – In Miami, the U.S. Coast Guard is urging Cuban-American families to stop financing the dangerous business of smuggling people from Cuba to the United States.

So far, though, those pleas have fallen on deaf ears as the lucrative trade in human cargo continues to grow and more men, women and children die at sea. Based on recent reports, the Coast Guard believes as many as 65 people may have died in Cuban smuggling trips since Nov. 24.

"I find it particularly frustrating and deeply disturbing that some in the South Florida community, and some Cuban-American families in particular, continue to support illegal and life threatening migrant smuggling," said Rear Admiral David W. Kunkel, Commander of the Seventh Coast Guard District. .."

And nobody is going to get me to believe that these smugglers are in it to give people a "better way of life"! It is all a cash trade, don't care who dies, as long as they get their money. ANY PERSON WHO INVOLVES A CHILD IN THIS BY PUTTING THEIR KIDS OR ANY OTHER IN THIS POSITION IS NOT THE KIND OF PERSON I WOULD WANT AS A CITIZEN ANYWAY. They are already showing that they are criminals, so I wish they would all be caught and refused entry, just like at the southern border.
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GREEN_08
Algonac, Michigan USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 11:07 AM CST
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Don't we need the Iraqi's to stay over there for target practice?? How will we get rid of Iranians, if we don't practice on the Iraqis?
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goodguy9994
Castleton, Indiana USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 7:59 PM CST
Maybe we need to use your old ass for target practice. Seriously people like you are just ANIMALS..
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goodguy9994
Castleton, Indiana USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:09 PM CST
It just shows the blatant ignorance and hatred of "people" like some here in this forum. First of all MORONS, did you read the damn news, IRAQ had nothing to do with the attacks, and had no terror relationship. It has no WMD's and if it does now thanks to our weapons. Idiots first we invaded a country under false pretexts, to make some of our corrupt rich people even richer. Private companies privatized the costs to highest ever in any "war". These private companies charged our army $40/ can of coke. Innocent civilians were killed, women were raped. Now they have 1.5 million widows. Iraq has the second highest reserves of oil after Saudi. Did you fools knew that.

As far as immigration is concerned, just look around yourselves. Idiots most of your Doctors and Engineers are foreign immigrants. Because you sick fucks dont go to school and just jack around in hopes of getting laid. So quit complaining about immigration.

If we took over some country, devastated their economy and resources, I don't think it's a big deal if we let some refugees come in over here. And I am sure these refugees are our friends who might have helped our troops against the bad elements there.

And old fart bag who said target practice, how about someone use you for target practice. Grow up losers. I am glad not many people in our country think like you fucking idiots.
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Indyfella
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Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:39 PM CST
sexophone wrote:
brent crude is a very buoyant legal tender ..... you take their oil, you take the responsibility ..... america's allies are in the same boat and they know they have made the mistakesof their lives, ..... it is better in the u.s where they haven't begun to show their true colors, here in sweden, there are smashed glass at almost all the b/stops and tram stops, violence is a daily occurence and i guess i don't expect less from people that are yet to be cured from post-war trauma ...... or should i say ........ post rip-off trauma .......



Are you saying what you "seem" to be saying? D'oh!
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:41 PM CST
goodguy9994 wrote:
It just shows the blatant ignorance and hatred of "people" like some here in this forum. First of all MORONS, did you read the damn news, IRAQ had nothing to do with the attacks, and had no terror relationship. It has no WMD's and if it does now thanks to our weapons. Idiots first we invaded a country under false pretexts, to make some of our corrupt rich people even richer. Private companies privatized the costs to highest ever in any "war". These private companies charged our army $40/ can of coke. Innocent civilians were killed, women were raped. Now they have 1.5 million widows. Iraq has the second highest reserves of oil after Saudi. Did you fools knew that.

As far as immigration is concerned, just look around yourselves. Idiots most of your Doctors and Engineers are foreign immigrants. Because you sick fucks dont go to school and just jack around in hopes of getting laid. So quit complaining about immigration.

If we took over some country, devastated their economy and resources, I don't think it's a big deal if we let some refugees come in over here. And I am sure these refugees are our friends who might have helped our troops against the bad elements there.

And old fart bag who said target practice, how about someone use you for target practice. Grow up losers. I am glad not many people in our country think like you fucking idiots.



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Manolito
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Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:58 PM CST
There is a small town up in Sweeden that has accepted more Iraqi refugees than the whole of the USA. I wont mention all of Europe here.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 9:09 PM CST
Manolito wrote:
There is a small town up in Sweeden that has accepted more Iraqi refugees than the whole of the USA. I wont mention all of Europe here.
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Mar 27, 2008, 8:59 AM CST
goodguy9994 wrote:
It just shows the blatant ignorance and hatred of "people" like some here in this forum. First of all MORONS, did you read the damn news, IRAQ had nothing to do with the attacks, and had no terror relationship. It has no WMD's and if it does now thanks to our weapons. Idiots first we invaded a country under false pretexts, to make some of our corrupt rich people even richer. Private companies privatized the costs to highest ever in any "war". These private companies charged our army $40/ can of coke. Innocent civilians were killed, women were raped. Now they have 1.5 million widows. Iraq has the second highest reserves of oil after Saudi. Did you fools knew that.

As far as immigration is concerned, just look around yourselves. Idiots most of your Doctors and Engineers are foreign immigrants. Because you sick fucks dont go to school and just jack around in hopes of getting laid. So quit complaining about immigration.

If we took over some country, devastated their economy and resources, I don't think it's a big deal if we let some refugees come in over here. And I am sure these refugees are our friends who might have helped our troops against the bad elements there.

And old fart bag who said target practice, how about someone use you for target practice. Grow up losers. I am glad not many people in our country think like you fucking idiots.
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Mar 27, 2008, 9:12 AM CST
goodguy9994 wrote:
It just shows the blatant ignorance and hatred of "people" like some here in this forum. First of all MORONS, did you read the damn news, IRAQ had nothing to do with the attacks, and had no terror relationship. It has no WMD's and if it does now thanks to our weapons. Idiots first we invaded a country under false pretexts, to make some of our corrupt rich people even richer. Private companies privatized the costs to highest ever in any "war". These private companies charged our army $40/ can of coke. Innocent civilians were killed, women were raped. Now they have 1.5 million widows. Iraq has the second highest reserves of oil after Saudi. Did you fools knew that.

As far as immigration is concerned, just look around yourselves. Idiots most of your Doctors and Engineers are foreign immigrants. Because you sick fucks dont go to school and just jack around in hopes of getting laid. So quit complaining about immigration.

If we took over some country, devastated their economy and resources, I don't think it's a big deal if we let some refugees come in over here. And I am sure these refugees are our friends who might have helped our troops against the bad elements there.

And old fart bag who said target practice, how about someone use you for target practice. Grow up losers. I am glad not many people in our country think like you fucking idiots.
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skimpydoo
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Mar 27, 2008, 9:43 AM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
You were looking in the Mirror while writing this Nice Piece of Poetry????

Sheeeesh,what a humourless GROUCH


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Posted: Mar 27, 2008, 9:44 AM CST
goodguy9994 wrote:
It just shows the blatant ignorance and hatred of "people" like some here in this forum. First of all MORONS, did you read the damn news, IRAQ had nothing to do with the attacks, and had no terror relationship. It has no WMD's and if it does now thanks to our weapons. Idiots first we invaded a country under false pretexts, to make some of our corrupt rich people even richer. Private companies privatized the costs to highest ever in any "war". These private companies charged our army $40/ can of coke. Innocent civilians were killed, women were raped. Now they have 1.5 million widows. Iraq has the second highest reserves of oil after Saudi. Did you fools knew that.

As far as immigration is concerned, just look around yourselves. Idiots most of your Doctors and Engineers are foreign immigrants. Because you sick fucks dont go to school and just jack around in hopes of getting laid. So quit complaining about immigration.

If we took over some country, devastated their economy and resources, I don't think it's a big deal if we let some refugees come in over here. And I am sure these refugees are our friends who might have helped our troops against the bad elements there.

And old fart bag who said target practice, how about someone use you for target practice. Grow up losers. I am glad not many people in our country think like you fucking idiots.


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Konigsberg
Jurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada
Posted: Mar 27, 2008, 9:48 AM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
Don't we need the Iraqi's to stay over there for target practice?? How will we get rid of Iranians, if we don't practice on the Iraqis?


This is the most outrageous and unintelligent post I've ever read

I thought that SOME of you Americans are such a humanitarians. Now it makes me think twice. thumbs down
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Konigsberg
Jurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada
Posted: Mar 27, 2008, 9:51 AM CST
goodguy9994 wrote:
It just shows the blatant ignorance and hatred of "people" like some here in this forum. First of all MORONS, did you read the damn news, IRAQ had nothing to do with the attacks, and had no terror relationship. It has no WMD's and if it does now thanks to our weapons. Idiots first we invaded a country under false pretexts, to make some of our corrupt rich people even richer. Private companies privatized the costs to highest ever in any "war". These private companies charged our army $40/ can of coke. Innocent civilians were killed, women were raped. Now they have 1.5 million widows. Iraq has the second highest reserves of oil after Saudi. Did you fools knew that.

As far as immigration is concerned, just look around yourselves. Idiots most of your Doctors and Engineers are foreign immigrants. Because you sick fucks dont go to school and just jack around in hopes of getting laid. So quit complaining about immigration.

If we took over some country, devastated their economy and resources, I don't think it's a big deal if we let some refugees come in over here. And I am sure these refugees are our friends who might have helped our troops against the bad elements there.

And old fart bag who said target practice, how about someone use you for target practice. Grow up losers. I am glad not many people in our country think like you fucking idiots.




Rough said .... but still true. thumbs up
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