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To forgive or forget ?

Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:28 AM CST
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I'm pretty certain trust can be re-established dude...total trust as well.

An open mind helps...the ability to reason through the multitude of negative emotions.

Most importantly, it's the attitude of the offender...their sorrow and contrition.
Maybe for some people, but not me. I'm normally a trusting person, but break it once and I won't give you the opportunity to do it again.
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Eupho
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:28 AM CST
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Me neither. I have a "zero tolerance" for chearters.
Oh me too.. that would be IT..

But I notice (in a relationship) I am also vereeee sensitive to people raising their voice at me... or even messing about and saying.. ' What did you do that for you silly b*tch haha' even playing about name calling... etc..

that to me is logged and noted,
and is something that would keep on and on popping up in my mind.
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Eupho
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:29 AM CST
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Sadly, that carries over to future relationships, I do believe.... (baggage) People think they can put things in the past, but we are a sum of our life experiences.
I agree Indy.. well put wine wave
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:30 AM CST
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I'm pretty certain trust can be re-established dude...total trust as well.

An open mind helps...the ability to reason through the multitude of negative emotions.

Most importantly, it's the attitude of the offender...their sorrow and contrition.
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And the intensity of the feelings you have for them.

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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:30 AM CST
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I agree Indy.. well put


Do I get some type of award for that deep philosophical thought rolling on the floor laughing ?
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Dknew
Warner, New Hampshire USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:31 AM CST
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Oh me too.. that would be IT..

But I notice (in a relationship) I am also vereeee sensitive to people raising their voice at me... or even messing about and saying.. ' What did you do that for you silly b*tch haha' even playing about name calling... etc..

that to me is logged and noted,
and is something that would keep on and on popping up in my mind.
I can't imagine swearing at someone I'm in a relationship with, Just not me.
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Eupho
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:31 AM CST
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Do I get some type of award for that deep philosophical thought ?
Yeah! :: passes Snickers bar:::: applause
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Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:32 AM CST
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Oh me too.. that would be IT..

But I notice (in a relationship) I am also vereeee sensitive to people raising their voice at me... or even messing about and saying.. ' What did you do that for you silly b*tch haha' even playing about name calling... etc..

that to me is logged and noted,
and is something that would keep on and on popping up in my mind.
Yes, zero tolerance for blatant disrespect too.
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:32 AM CST
People have reasons to behave in a certain way. Circumstances , emotions , anger ... i do not include cheating for obvious reasons .

So maybe its possible to a certain level to reason out their standing and actions. dunno
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Urhotman
Pottstown, Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:33 AM CST
You must have a short memory in relationships...Forgetting is more important, because forgiving someone doesn't mean you forget. Forgetting is allowing the past...To stay in the past. To truly forgive someone you must forget.wink
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:33 AM CST
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Yeah! :: passes Snickers bar::::


That works....and they're great frozen.... (on a hot summer's day) Send it UPS next day please!
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:34 AM CST
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Sadly, that carries over to future relationships, I do believe.... (baggage) People think they can put things in the past, but we are a sum of our life experiences.
so true .. how much do we learn from them ?

usually i feel its less than the amount of tears we shed for them.
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Scottishlass
Knoxville, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:38 AM CST
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What is more important in a relationship : To forgive or To forget ?


forgiving is the easy part...........forgetting takes time and patience
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omans02
Antwerpen Belgium
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:40 AM CST
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What is more important in a relationship : To forgive or To forget ?


u can forgive, but u never forget, u tend to be, but u know how our mind works, reminisce , babywink
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EricKissesDeeply
The Mountains USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:44 AM CST
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What is more important in a relationship : To forgive or To forget ?


To forgive...
Do not not forget...
But also if you forgive you cannot hold the issue in anger.

if one just forgets all the time, and never discusses the problem how can one resolve it.

and i do not believe anyone can forget... because if it happened again... it would surely be a part of the discussion about how it happened before.

To forgive is absolute... you must do this if you ever expect any forgiveness yourself.

and again to forget is impossible... but if you remember just do not hold anger in it , if you do then you never forgave in the first place.

JMO
and Love is a wonderously splendid thing... and has more strength constuctively than hate.
Eric
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bajanblue
Speightstown, Saint Peter Barbados
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:46 AM CST
Forgiving in its truest sense requires that we excuse transgressions AND harbor no anger or resentment.

To keep bringing the situation up indicates that forgiveness has not happened yet.

Some form of letting go or 'forgetting' needs to accompany forgiving otherwise we are putting ourselves in a position where we can feel like a 'superior' being with an "I forgave you" forever in outr mind.

Absolute death and destruction to any chance of a viable relationship.
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EricKissesDeeply
The Mountains USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:50 AM CST
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I can't imagine swearing at someone I'm in a relationship with, Just not me.
he he he
Dan im going to be meandevil

you do...

i swear i love you Baby

i swear it wasn't me

i swear sometimes you just kill me.

as God as my witness I swear i will not come home that late again.

i swear it was ONLY 2 beers

laugh Na na na na na na sticking out tongue
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EricKissesDeeply
The Mountains USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:52 AM CST
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Forgiving in its truest sense requires that we excuse transgressions AND harbor no anger or resentment.

To keep bringing the situation up indicates that forgiveness has not happened yet.

Some form of letting go or 'forgetting' needs to accompany forgiving otherwise we are putting ourselves in a position where we can feel like a 'superior' being with an "I forgave you" forever in outr mind.

Absolute death and destruction to any chance of a viable relationship.
yayyay

thats what i meant and you said it so eliquently...

this woman is bound for greatness i tell you.

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thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 6:59 AM CST
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he he he
Dan im going to be mean

you do...

i swear i love you Baby

i swear it wasn't me

i swear sometimes you just kill me.

as God as my witness I swear i will not come home that late again.

i swear it was ONLY 2 beers

Na na na na na na
laugh
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bajanblue
Speightstown, Saint Peter Barbados
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 7:03 AM CST
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To forgive...
Do not not forget...
But also if you forgive you cannot hold the issue in anger.

if one just forgets all the time, and never discusses the problem how can one resolve it.

and i do not believe anyone can forget... because if it happened again... it would surely be a part of the discussion about how it happened before.

To forgive is absolute... you must do this if you ever expect any forgiveness yourself.

and again to forget is impossible... but if you remember just do not hold anger in it , if you do then you never forgave in the first place.

JMO
and Love is a wonderously splendid thing... and has more strength constuctively than hate.
Eric
Either great minds or fools...

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Someone got very upset with me once because although I acknowledged their apology I did not offer forgiveness. I was very hurt and any words of forgiveness would have been meaningless at that moment.

Result? A repeat and escalation of the same hurtful behaviour. Forgiveness is not something to be dispensed lightly, as for forgetfulness...if you live long enough you forget all the losers anywaydancing grin
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