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To forgive or forget ?

Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 7:33 AM CST
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Either great minds or fools...



Someone got very upset with me once because although I acknowledged their apology I did not offer forgiveness. I was very hurt and any words of forgiveness would have been meaningless at that moment.

Result? A repeat and escalation of the same hurtful behaviour. Forgiveness is not something to be dispensed lightly, as for forgetfulness...if you live long enough you forget all the losers anyway
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 7:56 AM CST
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I forgave my (ex) husband for all the things he said and did ..

because it didn't effect HIM, how I felt.. it only hurt me.. and it stopped me moving forward.


It was faaaaarrrr easier to forgive and let it go. (though it DID take me a few years of wishing his every conceivable gruesome death )

But as soon as *I* forgave him in myself.. I felt a million times better.

and yeah.. for the most part I HAVE forgotten it now too.. but I'm not IN a relationship with him, so it was easier to do.

I'm not sure how well I would do at forgive and forget if I was IN a relationship.. once the rot sets in for me its the beginning of the end.

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forgiveness means you no longer embrace the hurt and choose a healthier 'I have learned' attitude.

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Eupho
Wild Wild South West, England UK
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 8:01 AM CST
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forgiveness means you no longer embrace the hurt and choose a healthier 'I have learned' attitude.

Thats right.. being able to truly forgive is a great feeling.. like someone took the cotton out of your head.. the weight off your shoulders and the needles out of your belly.

It's a very freeing and liberating calm feeling.
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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 8:01 AM CST
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I'm pretty certain trust can be re-established dude...total trust as well.

An open mind helps...the ability to reason through the multitude of negative emotions.

Most importantly, it's the attitude of the offender...their sorrow and contrition.
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If they own their behavior, and obviously know what they did wrong, then you have an accountable person ... people who won't see or admit are far less apt to change anything.

forgiveness is always a very personal thing, and one should never rely on others for it 'affirmations'. jmho
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Detente
North West, England UK
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 8:06 AM CST
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If they own their behavior, and obviously know what they did wrong, then you have an accountable person ... people who won't see or admit are far less apt to change anything.

forgiveness is always a very personal thing, and one should never rely on others for it 'affirmations'. jmho
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Deeply personal...there's no hard and fast rules.

Well said.cheers
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mime61
walterboro, South Carolina USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 8:38 AM CST
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Forgiveness for me.

To forget is impossible...we just try to do our best to put it to the back of our minds so as not to allow it to influence our best intentions.
applause Well said and I agree.....however, some things are not forgivable....even if we are only humansigh
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Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 9:31 AM CST
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If they own their behavior, and obviously know what they did wrong, then you have an accountable person ... people who won't see or admit are far less apt to change anything.

forgiveness is always a very personal thing, and one should never rely on others for it 'affirmations'. jmho
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Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 9:32 AM CST
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What is more important in a relationship : To forgive or To forget ?


both should be equally important. it's very hard to through in certain situations.
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rwantin
Costa Mesa, California USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 9:46 AM CST
I'm very big on forgiveness - if for no other reason it allows you to discard resentment, the latter of which can become baggage. I'd much rather travel light. smoking
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HJFinAZ
Sun CIty, Arizona USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 9:47 AM CST
Unfortunately, and contrary to popular belief, women are the only creatures with "feelings"..sigh


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Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:16 PM CST
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Unfortunately, and contrary to popular belief, women are the only creatures with "feelings"..


So true .. i have seen more women who are emotionally colder than men.

I feel maybe men find it difficult to express their emotions but nevertheless feel strongly yet !!

If it wasnt true , we wouldnt have so many men messed up by women either.

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kissmedeeply
New brunswick, New Brunswick Canada
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:20 PM CST
I can forgive..forget may stick with me for awhile..but who wants to carry that burden for the rest of their lives..It would make me a better person to forgive and to forget..and everyone around me would be happier
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EricKissesDeeply
The Mountains, North Carolina USA
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:26 PM CST
All things are forgiveable... would someone feel they are better than Christ to feel anything is unforgiveable.

Forgetting will come in time... we may never totaly forget but in time it will hold no real meaning or have any power.

to hold anger and resentment through life is to only kill ones own spirit... it would be so hard to give all of one self if the heart has hatered in it then that too will be shared...

i only want to share love...cheers hug
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Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:26 PM CST
It's usually easy for me to forgive and move on. only true forgiveness works with me...to forgive is to let it go and hold no resentment or bring it up again and again..if thats done then there was no real forgiveness just the words not the actions.

forgetting is a whole different story at least with me, depending what it is of course. somethings are not meant to forget, somethings you cant forget, somethings are stupid to forget.

I dont no longer seeing them go hand in hand.
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Heidelberg, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:41 PM CST
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It's usually easy for me to forgive and move on. only true forgiveness works with me...to forgive is to let it go and hold no resentment or bring it up again and again..if thats done then there was no real forgiveness just the words not the actions.

forgetting is a whole different story at least with me, depending what it is of course. somethings are not meant to forget, somethings you cant forget, somethings are stupid to forget.

I dont no longer seeing them go hand in hand.
Hi beb,

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i am agree with your first statement applause

i am agree with your second statement in some appointments too applause

only the third point we are different...

In Germany we say: forgive and (!) forgetting

..and I think you can (!) say, they will go hand in hand...because only when you forget you also have forgiven real...if not, it will be still in your brain - and once a day a similar situation - it comes back ...

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that´s real love ...

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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:44 PM CST
Forgive for yourself so you can move on...forget the deed...BUT not the lesson!!!!!!!

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Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:46 PM CST
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Forgive for yourself so you can move on...forget the deed...BUT not the lesson!!!!!!!

yeah what she said^^^

traveling light is the choice for me too

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Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:47 PM CST
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Hi beb,



i am agree with your first statement

i am agree with your second statement in some appointments too

only the third point we are different...

In Germany we say: forgive and (!) forgetting

..and I think you can (!) say, they will go hand in hand...because only when you forget you also have forgiven real...if not, it will be still in your brain - and once a day a similar situation - it comes back ...



that´s real love ...

but magic...no one truly forgets, it does stay on their mind to some degree depending on the situation. we can say to forgive and forget, but realisticly we dont forget it. it is humanly impossible.

but yet again, i am sure i am capable of real love....hmmm interesting..its only in the magic of the hearthug
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:47 PM CST
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yeah what she said^^^

traveling light is the choice for me too



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Right...Can't fly with oily wings either!!!!!!!!


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BeautifulEri
Guadalajara, Jalisco Mexico
Posted: Jan 5, 2008, 3:55 PM CST
Hey Riya....Hey all....wave

I think they come together...you forgive and forget, if u dont, then u didnt really forgive from ur heart....and yes, we should never forget the lesson....and yet sometimes it is hard to forget....so, its complicated....blues

I have a saying...to forgive is to remember without the pain or resentment....

JMO

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