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Is what is good good because the gods commanded it or did the gods command it because it was good? In other words, Are the things that are valuable, valuable because we value them or do we value them because they are valuable?)

OK...put it this way...

a Mercedes means NOTHING to me but since society thinks so.....I could sell it for something I consider valuable

therefore a Mercedes is valuable to me......Bummer, I guess I can't be a purest.

Hmm .. Neither .. the things we consider valuable in todays times are really not of any * real value but materialisic.

What is of * real value in life is not materialistic and cant be tagged with a certain value and even then not many value it.

To be able to give more would be valuable to me.
This is a non-materialistic endeavor.
To be able to give more, I must have more.
To try to attain more is a materialistic endeavor.

Is materialism valuable to an altruist?

hmhmm.. To be able to give more in the non materialistic way .. one needs to have a warm outlook and great desire for good . Both non materialistic ???

sounds valuable to me!!!

Basic human kindness is free, good, and valuable.
So is the desire to give.

If you try to acquire more for charitable purposes, are you a materialist?
Are you good?

We give things the value we think they have or deserve, but it doesn't mean that being valuable or not is something absolute, it changes according to situations.

American settlers needed buffalo waste to heat their modest homes.

Therefore BS was valuable just as it is when posting in threads.

I find that a good, nonmaterialistic way of 'giving' is to empower a person to achieve for themselves.

Sitting and chatting and just bringing up relevant subject areas leaves people with food for thought - a priceless gift in any language

in my life there are three priceless things can be seen.
my parents
philosophy of load buddhah
and my true sweet love...

Agreed , but (devil's advocate here) an oasis is more valuable to a dehydrated man than any sentiment.

Encouragement has "metaphoric" value, but worthless to someone who needs water.

Although, if they don't think they have the strength to crawl to the oasis and your encouragement motivates them to get there.......it is just as valuable as the water itself.

its kind of like 'irresistible force meeting unmovable object' - we have to find a way around instead and do our best to make sure there are no casualties - we can only do the best we can with whatever tools we have at our disposal - beyond this is impossible till we find a way forward

true value

I think most Mercedes are ugly....so I have no opinion

Interesting.

I have always felt that the sacrifice to self in giving was what gave the gift its value.

If I have 10 million and give a million it has cost me very little. If I have five dollars and give away half I will not be eating filet mignon tonight as a direct result of my giving.

If I give my time, to physically go and help with a project or something, and that time is all of the leisure time available to me that week it is more precious time than time I might give when I am off for a week.

The same commodoties have shifting values depending on the balance of needs and resources that exists.