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diogenes
Longview, Texas USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 12:19 AM CST
Have you ever seen yourself through the eyes of someone else that you had become?
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sxc666
Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 12:20 AM CST
I dont really know, I just try to go through life being a good person and try not to hurt anyone.
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 12:22 AM CST
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Have you ever seen yourself through the eyes of someone else that you had become?
NOOOOOOOO...Only through my own eyes and some days that's bad enough!!!!!!!




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omega1036
spearfish, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 12:22 AM CST
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Have you ever seen yourself through the eyes of someone else that you had become?
I think it is called maturingwine
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sxc666
Central Coast, New South Wales Australia
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 12:23 AM CST
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NOOOOOOOO...Only through my own eyes and some days that's bad enough!!!!!!!




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nomindgames
Painesville, Ohio USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 12:25 AM CST
I once got angry at my son and I realized I was my mother(mommy dearest) felt so bad.
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omega1036
spearfish, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 12:33 AM CST
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I once got angry at my son and I realized I was my mother(mommy dearest) felt so bad.
yeahbarfing wow!
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diogenes
Longview, Texas USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 12:50 AM CST
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I once got angry at my son and I realized I was my mother(mommy dearest) felt so bad.
That's what I'm talking about....along the lines of the other thread on pain. Emotions are designed to reinforce, chemically, something into longterm memory.

The most sophisticated pharmacy anywhere is the hypothalamus(sp?) in the human brain. It manufactures neuro-peptide sequences for every emotion that we experience. Anger, sorrow, lust, happiness, fear, whatever emotional state we can experience begins as a chemical in the brain that is distributed into our body's cells.

Heroine uses the same cell receptors that the neuro-peptides use. So, it's easy to see that if we can become addicted to heroine, we can also become addicted to emotions. In my mind this helps explain patterns in our lives that have otherwise eluded us.

We experience the world emotionally long before we experience it cognitively. From a young age we are imprinted with emotional signatures. We pick them up form our parents when we are infants, we can even experience emotions in the womb through our mothers.

Emotions are not good or bad, they are a nature's way of enhancing our existence. It is our unconscious addiction to certain emotions, that cause us problems. When we are able to recognize emotions for what they are, pause a moment, and experience it without reacting to it, then we have become someone else. We are no longer trapped in the repetative cycle of stimulus, reaction. We are an observer, that is free to choose which direction to take next.
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Hypno_cat
Swindon, Wiltshire, England UK
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 2:00 AM CST
Hi I seem to have lost the " include the post that you are replying to button"!

So diogenes

As a drugs worker and NLP therapist I tend to agree with your post. Unfortunately allot of people do not realize that they have control over how they experience the world and that they have the ability to change how these experiences affect them. I would qualify that the change process can be a hard one though, it is also helpful to understand what the emotions that they are experiencing are doing for them.

"All behaviors have a positive intent" (NLP) They may be redundant now, but at some point all behaviors/emotions came into existence for a perceived positive reason.
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curlywolf
quebec, Quebec Canada
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 2:04 AM CST
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I once got angry at my son and I realized I was my mother(mommy dearest) felt so bad.
Did that only for me I was like my father and freaked.
Bad karma.
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diogenes
Longview, Texas USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 2:12 AM CST
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Hi I seem to have lost the " include the post that you are replying to button"!

So diogenes

As a drugs worker and NLP therapist I tend to agree with your post. Unfortunately allot of people do not realize that they have control over how they experience the world and that they have the ability to change how these experiences affect them. I would qualify that the change process can be a hard one though, it is also helpful to understand what the emotions that they are experiencing are doing for them.

"All behaviors have a positive intent" (NLP) They may be redundant now, but at some point all behaviors/emotions came into existence for a perceived positive reason.
Sure.

Hurt ~ to keep us from doing that again

Fear ~ to warn us that we might get hurt

Anger ~ to protect us from hurt

That kind of stuff?
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Hypno_cat
Swindon, Wiltshire, England UK
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 2:34 AM CST
diogenes. (sorry still have not got that button!!

Yes thats it. Most of the time the intent may be unconscious, so it is about discovering it, accepting that it helped in that instance, and questioning whether it still is useful.
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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 3:30 AM CST
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That's what I'm talking about....along the lines of the other thread on pain. Emotions are designed to reinforce, chemically, something into longterm memory.

The most sophisticated pharmacy anywhere is the hypothalamus(sp?) in the human brain. It manufactures neuro-peptide sequences for every emotion that we experience. Anger, sorrow, lust, happiness, fear, whatever emotional state we can experience begins as a chemical in the brain that is distributed into our body's cells.

Heroine uses the same cell receptors that the neuro-peptides use. So, it's easy to see that if we can become addicted to heroine, we can also become addicted to emotions. In my mind this helps explain patterns in our lives that have otherwise eluded us.

We experience the world emotionally long before we experience it cognitively. From a young age we are imprinted with emotional signatures. We pick them up form our parents when we are infants, we can even experience emotions in the womb through our mothers.

Emotions are not good or bad, they are a nature's way of enhancing our existence. It is our unconscious addiction to certain emotions, that cause us problems. When we are able to recognize emotions for what they are, pause a moment, and experience it without reacting to it, then we have become someone else. We are no longer trapped in the repetative cycle of stimulus, reaction. We are an observer, that is free to choose which direction to take next.
thumbs up Excellent advise... !!!! cheers
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 3:42 AM CST
Emotions make us human.

Right from infancy man learns from observing the surroundings. So we almost innately tend to absorb whats around us and have a mental picture which lies buried in our head surfacing when the right stimulus or similar stimulus is experienced.

Its like our sight , feelings and thoughts feed our mind. So if we can diet to cleanse the body , yes , its absolutely possible to cleanse the mind and discipline it.

But one needs to posess " insight " thats the main key. Or atleast have the will to be assisted by someone who might have.

To be able to see what we are distinctly from what what we become as victims of our feelings and emotions is a possible but herculent yet rewarding task.

Great topic !!!thumbs up thumbs up
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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 3:45 AM CST
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Emotions make us human.

Right from infancy man learns from observing the surroundings. So we almost innately tend to absorb whats around us and have a mental picture which lies buried in our head surfacing when the right stimulus or similar stimulus is experienced.

Its like our sight , feelings and thoughts feed our mind. So if we can diet to cleanse the body , yes , its absolutely possible to cleanse the mind and discipline it.

But one needs to posess " insight " thats the main key. Or atleast have the will to be assisted by someone who might have.

To be able to see what we are distinctly from what what we become as victims of our feelings and emotions is a possible but herculent yet rewarding task.

Great topic !!!
thumbs up

Very true!!

hug
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 3:46 AM CST
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Very true!!

Thankyou .. hug
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 3:47 AM CST
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That's what I'm talking about....along the lines of the other thread on pain. Emotions are designed to reinforce, chemically, something into longterm memory.

The most sophisticated pharmacy anywhere is the hypothalamus(sp?) in the human brain. It manufactures neuro-peptide sequences for every emotion that we experience. Anger, sorrow, lust, happiness, fear, whatever emotional state we can experience begins as a chemical in the brain that is distributed into our body's cells.

Heroine uses the same cell receptors that the neuro-peptides use. So, it's easy to see that if we can become addicted to heroine, we can also become addicted to emotions. In my mind this helps explain patterns in our lives that have otherwise eluded us.

We experience the world emotionally long before we experience it cognitively. From a young age we are imprinted with emotional signatures. We pick them up form our parents when we are infants, we can even experience emotions in the womb through our mothers.

Emotions are not good or bad, they are a nature's way of enhancing our existence. It is our unconscious addiction to certain emotions, that cause us problems. When we are able to recognize emotions for what they are, pause a moment, and experience it without reacting to it, then we have become someone else. We are no longer trapped in the repetative cycle of stimulus, reaction. We are an observer, that is free to choose which direction to take next.
great post !!
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omega1036
spearfish, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 8:44 PM CST
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wendywindy
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2008, 9:22 PM CST
I often feel when I recall my past that I am an observer not an active participant. I view my past for a distance and critique my actions as if I were making a third party observation. Many a time I have wished when I were younger I could have had this "point of view" in the heat of the moment or in the midst of a situation. I would have seen the full picture of the situation at opposed to the tunneled monocular view from "self."

As I have grown older and become more self aware, I have come to a place in life where for most things/situations/emotions I can view from a third party observation, enabling myself to make rational aware choices as opposed to irrational emotionally driven, decisions/choices.

However, still there are times that I lose my wide angle view of situations and react instinctly from the monocular view.

I am not sure if age is what has brought on the ability of third party observation, or if it is a product of self awareness.
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