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:SHOULD WE TERMINATE OUR "WELFARE" SYSTEM IN ALL THE STATES?

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:SHOULD WE TERMINATE OUR "WELFARE" SYSTEM IN ALL THE STATES?




shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 6:43 PM CST
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would you die for the freedom that is giving each and every one of us?
[when was the last time, you did some thing nice for our " soldiers"?
or their families?
quote][/quote]

DON'T YOU DARE SAY THAT TO ME!!

I am a veteran. I served in Vietnam. I laid my life on the line for America!! How Dare you say those things!!


Did you serve your country? Have you ever put on a uniform? Are you disabled because of youe service to YOUR country? I bet not!!
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wendywindy
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 6:48 PM CST
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would you die for the freedom that is giving each and every one of us?



I would...I would join any day if it meant my child would live in freedom...If it meant my choices would be mine...I would put my life on the line for my freedom of faith...I would.
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capigirl
San Diego USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 6:52 PM CST
to Indyfella:

I am finding that out, if people would've read from the beginning, it was not about the race, at all, it was about the fact if some one is getting the welfare benefits, at least speak the language, read and write it, and don't take advantage of our " American System".
ah, no point going on any more, this will probably get twisted as well,
watch,!!!!
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 6:52 PM CST


Anyone care to answer any of my questions? Just call me curious~~? dunno
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 6:54 PM CST
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I would...I would join any day if it meant my child would live in freedom...




Then why have n't you???confused
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 6:55 PM CST


You haven't been on here long....you'll get it all figured out quickly...

Sorry for the rude treatment...


check your mail~
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wendywindy
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 6:58 PM CST
Because I don't have anyone who can take care of my child. I was scheduled for a physical and to enlist in 2001 when I had a car accident followed my major reconstruction done on my face after an accident with a horse. I was not able to enlist at the time and opted to continue my education.
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capigirl
San Diego USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 7:00 PM CST
to shipoker55:

then I don't see why you are arguing with me, I honor and respect you for what you did, I don't honestly know why you are upset with me?

I don't think you really read what I posted thourouly, because this had nothing to do with Mexicans, or any other ones for that matter?

If any thing, I wished our veterans could get the attention they deserve, to me you guys come first, so I am sorry u are upset,

take care,
have a great evening,
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 7:02 PM CST
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hey am i missing something here? how come it was so easy for you to understand my Post?

wow, i am shocked at some of the responses about Mexicans and blacks,

all I said i don't care where u are from? for all I care u could be from Mars.

boy, nothing like being missunderstood.

I earned my degree and my income.

I don't know what else to say?




This may past muster with the CS tribunal. D'oh!
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 7:11 PM CST
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Yes sir we have that of course. I know you refering to me talking like that and it is ok. What can I do a bout that? If you are a certified psycholog and mean that I am troubled because of the way I think then I beleive you are not right at all. If you are not agree with me then write your ideas in here as I do. This is a free froum and what I write or what you write can be read by many others and then they all can decide what they think. I am sorry you think I am out of psycholigical balance because I hate racism and attacks on the weak ones and beleive deeply in people should participate more in policy and knowing a bout where things coming from and how differnet situations in a country are created instead of running on the streets with torchs and act uncivilised!



I would never infer that you're pre-occupied with things beyond your control. Not at all.


What I will say is that I don't find myself preoccupied with what goes on in Denmark.

(I know the standard line.... about the U.S. being a superpower and everyone pays attention to what we do.) wave
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Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 7:33 PM CST
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Anyone care to answer any of my questions? Just call me curious~~?


I'm sorry Indy. What were your questions? If you lay them out to me, I'll try to answer them if any of them apply to me.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 8:03 PM CST
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I'm sorry Indy. What were your questions? If you lay them out to me, I'll try to answer them if any of them apply to me.




Naaaaaaa......there weren't any for you....for others. I was seeking clarification on a couple of my posts.

But thanks for getting back :)

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UnluckyGuyinpa
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 8:18 PM CST


I had no objection to the topic, in fact I welcomed a maeningful discussion of it. The issue that I had a problem with was jumping to the conclusion that these people in this office were illleagal and didn't work. It sounded to me personally like a generalization of the Mexican population as a whole. To me that's a racist remark. It appeared to me that they were singled out because of their nationality. The truth is that here on the East Coast there are many immagrants both legal and illegal from everywhere, Mexico,Poland, and Russia to name a few. I'm sure they are draining the system just like "Americans" are doing.

Indy, I have read most of your posts and respect your point of view. I would hope that your "following the herd" remark was meant for someone else because if it was meant for me, you couldn't be farther from the truth.


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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 8:30 PM CST



Most of my posts are well thought out....

It's a known fact that we have at least 12 million illegals here from south of the border. (12 million is a very low estimate) Obviously, not all are Mexican as some come from Panama, El Salvador, and other counties away from our immediate borders.

I will totally agree that most illegals are as hard working as any group of people. That doesn't make them legal. only good employees who will work cheap. Because many work "off the books" they don't make as much money as a U.S. citizen. Many send money back "home" to support their families. I can understand that...but it doesn't make it right or legal.

For the ones with children here, the cost of putting a child thru a year of school can range from $5 to 10 K a year. One only needs to do the math~

I didn't sense any hatred or racism from the OP. Just an opinion like everyone else has~

(I would add that any generalization is probably wrong, but one can't put a caviate in every post or the would run 5000 words.)

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UnluckyGuyinpa
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 14, 2008, 9:53 PM CST


I see your points and as I said the I had no issue with the OP. It was JMO that the thread went bad and somewhat racist.


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tampa1
London, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 18, 2008, 3:26 PM CST
capigirl wrote:
California is getting bombarded with undocumented immigrants, and they keep having more kids, and once the child is born here, they get free food stamps, health care, even free housing, and each child gets about $400.00/ mo. and child care,and yet lot of us that work our buns off, can not afford health coverage. So these people have learned to come here and give birth, and they will have it made.


Yeah ain't America great? Hillary or Obama for Prsident should fix the problem.....rolling on the floor laughing
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 18, 2008, 3:35 PM CST


Uh oh.........the thread came back to life. frustrated rolling on the floor laughing
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UnluckyGuyinpa
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 18, 2008, 3:41 PM CST


And here I thought it was dead forever.....
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tampa1
London, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 18, 2008, 3:47 PM CST
Sorry guys. I couldn't help myself......devil
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 18, 2008, 3:50 PM CST

Time for round 2, huh rolling on the floor laughing
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