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U.S. Last in Healthcare

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tampa1
London, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 20, 2008, 6:10 PM CST
Questions tampa...


There are no deductables for rich and poor. There are no fees to visit any doctor or hospital. The deadbeats are covered, just like they are in the US. In a sense the richer do susidize the poor. Each time some uses the health care system the State is sent a bill on your behalf and the premium is payed from the pool of healthcare money that is collected. There are certain things that are not covered for instance cosmetic needs, this kind of thing you pay out of pocket.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 1:41 PM CST
dazzling_dave wrote:
It is a shame that our country seems to take care of and reward deadbeats over working men and women. I'm doing my best to have everything in place so as not to have to rely on the government for anything. I figure it is my responsibility to take care of myself and my family. If I fail to do that, then I can blame no one but myself.



I commend you for that Dave..but...You have to consider the men and woman who ARE working but their employers do not offer healthcare benefits. Even if employers do offer it as "optional" it is usually so expensive it leaves people with barely any money to pay bills. Another common practice is to hire people as "part time" giving them slightly less hours than a full time person in order to save themselves from having to give benefits to their employees (they usually have no problem asking you to work extra hours to get "their" full time hours though). The US is getting bombarded with more "Crap" jobs that simply run on a practice of part time or temporary work and low wages and no benefits. Our good jobs are getting outsourced more and more leaving people in dire straights...but..Like Bush says, someone working 3 jobs or more to support their family is "Uniquely American".sigh
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 2:35 PM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
I commend you for that Dave..but...You have


I have no employer sponsored health insurance as I am self-employed. I suppose I would be considered almost un-american by some because I actually live on less than I make and have no debt.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 2:42 PM CST
dazzling_dave wrote:
I have no employer sponsored health insurance as I am self-employed. I suppose I would be considered almost un-american by some because I actually live on less than I make and have no debt.



Well...you can't put the same shoe on everyone else's foot. I guess that makes you better than all the rest?
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 2:45 PM CST


I'd say it makes him somewhat self-sufficient. Surely that's not a bad thing? dunno
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 2:48 PM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
Well...you can't put the same shoe on everyone else's foot. I guess that makes you better than all the rest?


Not by a long shot. I am no better than anyone else. I just happen to believe in personal accountability and responsibility. The government can not fix our lives. Our politicians can't even control their own lives. I sure don't want them trying to control or fix my life. I am responsible for my own life and I don't think government should be involved in trying to "solve" our problems. The government doesn't solve problems. It only creates them.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 2:51 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
I'd say it makes him somewhat self-sufficient. Surely that's not a bad thing?



No..not at all. I am happy for him that he has a successful business. There are plenty of people working hard everyday but cannot seem to be able to afford healthcare...does that make them bad???
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Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 2:52 PM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
No..not at all. I am happy for him that he has a successful business. There are plenty of people working hard everyday but cannot seem to be able to afford healthcare...does that make them bad???



I am not talking about illagals either...lol
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Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 2:55 PM CST
dazzling_dave wrote:
I am no better than anyone else. I just happen to believe in personal accountability and responsibility.



Just my opinion but,

if you believe in personal accountability and responsibility,

I think that makes you better than a heck of a lot of people!



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Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 2:57 PM CST
Lionhearted1967 wrote:
No..not at all. I am happy for him that he has a successful business. There are plenty of people working hard everyday but cannot seem to be able to afford healthcare...does that make them bad???




I am mainly referring to thoise who actually have children and in order for them to take care of more than just themselves. The cost can be overwhelming.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2008, 3:01 PM CST
tampa1 wrote:
Yeah. No one likes to depend on the government, I actually dispise governments, but I am no fan of insurance companies either, who tend to be be great lobbyists.




Yup...They are one of the top lobbyists right down there with pharmecutical companies..etc.


I think this lobbying BS should be illegal. Why should only those with money and power be influencing the politicians? I feel it breeds corruption.
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