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No I don't think there is any other 'Standard' .. other than what someone chooses to believe.

If someone believes that green Venusians are controlling Scrabble games on Earth... then that's right for THEM.. it doesn't make it wrong because it's not what you think.

Thankyou Joe ..

So, where are you Riya?

the answer to your own question ... is ..

Hey, I'm blond, too, Claire (though a dark blond, which I suppose could make a difference?)

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't say that people who disregard evidence and logic in acquiring their beliefs have the same probability of discovering truth as someone who employs those things; I'm also fairly sure, when push comes to shove, that you believe there are standards apart from one's own beliefs -- that is, something isn't true by virtue of being believed in.

I think what's going on here is what I call "nice syndrome." Nice people don't judge others' beliefs. Of course, in reality, they *do* judge others' beliefs, but being nice, they want to couch their judgment in non-judgmental terms.

I'm not afraid to say - in fact, I think I'm obliged to say - that I don't respect certain beliefs, including religious ones. That isn't to say that I don't respect the individuals holding those beliefs; in fact, I dearly love several people who hold them.

An interesting tactic is to place the shoe on the other foot: ask relgious people if they respect atheism. Every one I've asked replied emphatically: "No," while qualifying that statement by saying they could, of course, respect an atheist as an individual.

very open minded claayer ..

I feel that too.

As the quest to know whats behind all creations or spiritual or intellectual growth is quite personal as in " individual ". We can only be guided or aided but the rest is our own journey.

So where we find our comfort zone to believe as per the criteria, pros and cons we have encountered there becomes the niche of our faith.Some of us are happy. Some of us want to know more and more , so we keep searching.

Well THAT'S what pisses me off..

People thinking I am wrong because I am an Atheist... People feeling 'sorry for me' because I don't believe in a god.

I think it's a bloody cheek tbh..

If I were to sit here and say I thought THEY were wrong.. or that I felt sorry for them being so blindly lead.. by fables .. rumours and books..


there would be a RIOT.

So I don't... because I AM nice.. and I have 'respect'

Hey, what's wrong with a little riot? I think what I hear is that you don't say such things because you're being respectful of *them* - not necessarily what they *believe*. I think one should be respectful, but I'm under no reasonable obligation to respect nonsense (such as the Venusians controlling Scrabble moves...though that might explain why some people actually enjoy that game!)

I don't think that's being disrespectful - simply honest.

Jeff

Yup that's probably it.

Am Here ...

Ermm .. my view ?

Frankly, I have a long way to go yet to be able enough to answer even in my sleep.

As for now, I am born in to a religious family . Religious as in where some literally " follow " without insight in to applying it to our life while some follow the true essence of what my religion speaks of.

I belong to the category of " personalized belief ". To keep my post short, I refuse to accept concepts and ideas which attempt to make us superior by virtue of religion and not virtue perse. I refuse to follow certain rules as i am defiant to dictum.

I believe in a supreme creator. I believe in a lot of the logic my religion proposes. The most imp. being tolerance, love and forgiveness and TRY to follow it.

I see all of us as people who want to be happy and loved at the end of the day.

If my faith gets the better out of me when i am blinded by anger or shallowness and helps bounce back to logic i am willing to explore if there is more to what meets my perception ( not eye )

Oo how vereee me





Good post Riya

You mean if scientific experiments/testing conclusively demonstrated that no external forces were involved in Scrabble-playing (and this should be theoretically possible), that a person believing in Venusian control of that game wouldn't be wrong? (In this case, scientific principles and measurements would provide the standard.)

Belief is purely belief not the individual .. unless you are imposing it on another or using it to evoke chaos .. its another side of their personality.

So atheist or religious .. each one to his own !!

My opinion.

the only way out of (this) hell, if you ask me ..

ibelieve in luck........i believe the harder i try the luckier i get

We are all born atheist, then pick up a religion. In my case I was raised a Catholic until, for various reasons, I came to the conclusion that it was all codswallop.
Being an atheist is simply a lack of belief, I don't necessarily believe there are no gods, I just see no reason or evidence to believe that there are gods.

Even if clear and unambiguous evidence became apparent I would in any case refuse to worship any deity. Any creature that demands or craves worship is in my opinion neither worthy nor deserving of it.

I pour scorn on churches, if someone wishes to communicate with their god then surely their god can hear them anytime, anyplace, anywhere. Churches are all about power on this earth and have nothing to do with the divine.

Yep I totally agree Riya

belief is the key word, JMHO ... it's only function is limitation. I think and I beleive are diverse comments.

ermmm .. such a short comment ?

Never thought of it in this perspective ..

But if belief/ faith is out of conviction (as in with the knowledge you have at that point of time) and yet you keep an open mind to the possibility of more .. it ceases to be a limitation ...