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What do you believe in ?

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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:28 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
Am Here ...

Ermm .. my view ?

Frankly, I have a long way to go yet to be able enough to answer even in my sleep.

As for now, I am born in to a religious family . Religious as in where some literally " follow " without insight in to applying it to our life while some follow the true essence of what my religion speaks of.

I belong to the category of " personalized belief ". To keep my post short, I refuse to accept concepts and ideas which attempt to make us superior by virtue of religion and not virtue perse. I refuse to follow certain rules as i am defiant to dictum.

I believe in a supreme creator. I believe in a lot of the logic my religion proposes. The most imp. being tolerance, love and forgiveness and TRY to follow it.

I see all of us as people who want to be happy and loved at the end of the day.

If my faith gets the better out of me when i am blinded by anger or shallowness and helps bounce back to logic i am willing to explore if there is more to what meets my perception ( not eye )


Okay, but here's one the points I was trying to make with Claire: we don't truly respect viewpoints that differ sharply (in important ways) from our own. That's not psychologically possible.

To illustrate, imagine encountering someone who believes in religious intolerance. Now, if you're Claire - and you're being logically consistent - you'd say that belief is "right for them," and deserving of respect. But of course neither of you would respect someone who held such a belief, would you?

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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:29 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
ermmm .. such a short comment ?


sorry .. here's a lil mo ..

In response to:
If my faith gets the better out of me when i am blinded by anger or shallowness and helps bounce back to logic i am willing to explore if there is more to what meets my perception ( not eye )


as humans we sometimes have to act not only with factual information but with what we perceive, as you might on a date with someone, who may be acting strange say. You may have no concrete information to make a decison to conlcude the date or continue it and we use our 'perception' as you eloquently noted, not our eye to help make this choice.

as to god and perception, there is no need to make that choice, not for me, no one forces me , nor do I feel any threat or failure in not choosing to beleive this perception .... yet ... and I say that because there is something out there, I don't know... a god ... maybe, but there's a lot of possibles and maybes.
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:30 PM CST
BobBilly wrote:
if someone wishes to communicate with their god then surely their god can hear them anytime, anyplace, anywhere. .


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I do think personally this is true if one does believe in a god.

The reason i was saying i refuse to follow certain dictums for the reasons cited as usually the interpretations are which are more annoying than the dictum itself.

Its like i would NOT go to a temple cos God lives only there and i should pray just there. I would rather go cos i feel like and cos it gives me a sense of peace and satisfaction.

JMO
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:39 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
Okay, but here's one the points I was trying to make with Claire: we don't truly respect viewpoints that differ sharply (in important ways) from our own. That's not psychologically possible.

To illustrate, imagine encountering someone who believes in religious intolerance. Now, if you're Claire - and you're being logically consistent - you'd say that belief is "right for them," and deserving of respect. But of course neither of you would respect someone who held such a belief, would you?


Hmm .. i get it now.

Nope i wouldnt !!

Maybe it would be clearer to say "Each one to their own Faith !!" and no faith ( or religion in the true sense ) in my knowledge advocates mindboggling intolerance. Its man made and interpreted.Its the way the view a halfempty glass. Be it any religion , if there is a creator , why would he advocate destruction. If we are his image why would he make us breed hatred.

So i respect their faith - atheist or pagan or nature or a religious deity or God in any form.

But i refuse to accept a version of faith and made " belief " if the only purpose it serves is brew misery and contempt. Its their perception and i dissociate from it.

Makes sense i hope ..hug

JMO

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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:40 PM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
sorry .. here's a lil mo ..
as humans we sometimes have to act not only with factual information but with what we perceive, as you might on a date with someone, who may be acting strange say. You may have no concrete information to make a decison to conlcude the date or continue it and we use our 'perception' as you eloquently noted, not our eye to help make this choice.

as to god and perception, there is no need to make that choice, not for me, no one forces me , nor do I feel any threat or failure in not choosing to beleive this perception .... yet ... and I say that because there is something out there, I don't know... a god ... maybe, but there's a lot of possibles and maybes.


wine Thankyou !!! Makes me think.

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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:41 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
Hmm .. i get it now.

Nope i wouldnt !!

Maybe it would be clearer to say "Each one to their own Faith !!" and no faith ( or religion in the true sense ) in my knowledge advocates mindboggling intolerance. Its man made and interpreted.Its the way the view a halfempty glass. Be it any religion , if there is a creator , why would he advocate destruction. If we are his image why would he make us breed hatred.

So i respect their faith - atheist or pagan or nature or a religious deity or God in any form.

But i refuse to accept a version of faith and made " belief " if the only purpose it serves is brew misery and contempt. Its their perception and i dissociate from it.

Makes sense i hope ..

JMO


Thanks, Riya. I think maybe we're getting somewhere now. Good thread, gf.hug wave
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Fellfrosch
At home, Thuringia Germany
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:48 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
I am an Atheist.. I don't believe in anything (other than myself) I don't believe in any kind of god. That also INCLUDES... ghosts.. aliens.. supernatural.. ufos.. after life.. etc.

I don't believe in all that kind of thing either.. although I have full respect for anyone that does (to each his own etc)I have always been that way.. and am very happy with it the way it is. I don't need a 'faith' or belief.. in anything other than myself.

It's got me this far.. and it it suits me just fine.




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Same here.

I only believe in myself.
I was never religious. I have never believed in any kind of god or higher power.
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:54 PM CST
Fellfrosch wrote:
Same here.

I only believe in myself.
I was never religious. I have never believed in any kind of god or higher power.


Hell, I'm such a skeptical atheist, I'm not even sure I believe in myself (on a bad day).confused blushing
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:54 PM CST
Am Glad Amborse grin hug

Thankyou each one for the input .. I appreciate it.

Off to bed for now .. wave
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grizz73
Fairbanks, Alaska USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:54 PM CST
I believe I'll have another beer, thanxhere's to you
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Tumpa
ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:56 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
This idea cropped in to my mind while on Indy's thread.

People, what do you believe or have faith in ?

I know this sounds ambigious. But not everyone here is religious.

So do you believe in God ? If yes, what do you believe about him and his teachings ?
Do you follow any particular religion ? If yes/no why ?
If atheist, what is your belief about the existence of a creator or an energy force ?
If none of these , any personalised beliefs ?
PS: This is NOT to debate or put anyone's faith down .


Dearest T,

I believe in love. It is the only one true basis. It is what I put my faith in.
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Fellfrosch
At home, Thuringia Germany
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:56 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
Hell, I'm such a skeptical atheist, I'm not even sure I believe in myself (on a bad day).



That would I call Atheist from the bottom of the heart! grin

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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:57 PM CST
Sorry I had to dip out then.. I'm trying to sort something out with my international calling rates.. haha

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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:58 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
Am Glad Amborse

Thankyou each one for the input .. I appreciate it.

Off to bed for now ..


Night night Riya.. sweet dreams (of CHOCOLATES!!) teddy bear
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 2:59 PM CST
Tumpa wrote:
Dearest T,

I believe in love. It is the only one true basis. It is what I put my faith in.


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Hi James , good to see you around.

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Tumpa
ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 3:00 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
Sorry I had to dip out then.. I'm trying to sort something out with my international calling rates.. haha


Let me help you out.....

Internationally call me.,.....hahahahah
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 3:00 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
Night night Riya.. sweet dreams (of CHOCOLATES!!)


yayyyyyy !!! ermm .. another belief if i may add : morning dreams aparently come true .. blushing

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Scottishlass
Knoxville, Tennessee USA
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 3:23 PM CST
I am a non-demonational Christian and I believe in the Holy Bible as written by men whom God spoke to.

My life experiences have convinced that God does exist, and that He has ALWAYS been there for me.

I do not believe in luck or coincedence, I do believe in divine provedence.










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Tumpa
ottawa, Ontario Canada
Posted: Jan 19, 2008, 3:25 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
Hi James , good to see you around.


Hiya T,

It is good to see you around too.....

What is good around, comes around and that is the basis of your thread, no?
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riyablossom
somewhere .. , Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Jan 20, 2008, 7:52 AM CST
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