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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Claayer: Oh and honest.. don't forget that.. honesty is always a good thing.


Okay . . . I got an A instead of an A* in History and Geography - the two lows of my life.moping blues
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Claayer Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
EastbayRay: Okay . . . I got an A instead of an A* in History and Geography - the two lows of my life.


rolling eyes rolling eyes laugh
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dragonfly88 valencia, Valenciana Spain
EastbayRay: Yeah, I am totally against that stupid stereotype (and enjoy shattering it)! I am extremely muscular and at the same time a scholar of philosophy. Plato himself was know as ‘the broad-shouldered one’.
All it takes to be in very good shape is one to one and a half hours five days a week . Even to look like a bodybuilder.
People spend that amount of time day dreaming or sleeping in instead of waking up an hour or so earlier etc
That’s a stupid stereotype!



I prefer to get up earlier to write but I'm thinking about the gym (well, swimming as I like that a bit more) and thinking is only the first step....... the next step is to go and check but that will take a while.......

I need motivation for that.... somebody to drag me along by the hand and say... "come on!!"

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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
dragonfly88: I prefer to get up earlier to write but I'm thinking about the gym (well, swimming as I like that a bit more) and thinking is only the first step....... the next step is to go and check but that will take a while.......

I need motivation for that.... somebody to drag me along by the hand and say... "come on!!"


Swimming is much better as a one does it all thing. Write? You are a writer?

It's weird, I write better at night - late at night.
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dragonfly88 valencia, Valenciana Spain
In response to: Write? You are a writer?

It's weird, I write better at night - late at night.





unpublished but busy

I used to do them at night but now I go to bed really early so it's the other way round, it still doesn't seem to make that much difference, except that sometimes, when I did stories at night, I´d have a glass of wine, but I don't do that in the morning. just coffee at that time.

what do you write?
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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
dragonfly88: unpublished but busy

I used to do them at night but now I go to bed really early so it's the other way round, it still doesn't seem to make that much difference, except that sometimes, when I did stories at night, I´d have a glass of wine, but I don't do that in the morning. just coffee at that time.

what do you write?


Philosophy. Huge amounts of philosophy. professor

I used to write short stories when I was younger and even completed a novel (it was like a Raymond Chandler thing). All my writing seemed to have philosophical aspects to it so I transitioned over to pure philosophy and stopped writing fiction...

I haven’t read fiction in a long time, but just the other day picked up Oliver Twist. I used to read writers like Stephen King and Wilbur Smith when I was about 14-16 but after years and years of academic philosophy I just can’t read that kind of stuff anymore. It is difficult to suspend one’s disbelief once you have read Immanuel Kant’s ‘Critique of Pure Reason.’
So I guess I will read the more ‘literary’ writers now. Impressed with Dickens!

What do you write, what kind of writing - fact or fiction? What genre?

Writers rule the world (in the long run)wine grin
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trublu Rialto USA
Really don't think there is such a thing as too much man, at least the way the OP defined it. LOL
Unless of course you are talking about a man who's belly sticks out further than his chest, now THAT would be too much.
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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
trublu: Really don't think there is such a thing as too much man, at least the way the OP defined it. LOL
Unless of course you are talking about a man who's belly sticks out further than his chest, now THAT would be too much.


well saidthumbs up

cool
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skimpydoo Dublin, Dublin Ireland
EastbayRay: Philosophy. Huge amounts of philosophy.

I used to write short stories when I was younger and even completed a novel (it was like a Raymond Chandler thing). All my writing seemed to have philosophical aspects to it so I transitioned over to pure philosophy and stopped writing fiction...

I haven’t read fiction in a long time, but just the other day picked up Oliver Twist. I used to read writers like Stephen King and Wilbur Smith when I was about 14-16 but after years and years of academic philosophy I just can’t read that kind of stuff anymore. It is difficult to suspend one’s disbelief once you have read Immanuel Kant’s ‘Critique of Pure Reason.’
So I guess I will read the more ‘literary’ writers now. Impressed with Dickens!

What do you write, what kind of writing - fact or fiction? What genre?

Writers rule the world (in the long run)
EastbayRay: Philosophy. Huge amounts of philosophy.

I used to write short stories when I was younger and even completed a novel (it was like a Raymond Chandler thing). All my writing seemed to have philosophical aspects to it so I transitioned over to pure philosophy and stopped writing fiction...

I haven’t read fiction in a long time, but just the other day picked up Oliver Twist. I used to read writers like Stephen King and Wilbur Smith when I was about 14-16 but after years and years of academic philosophy I just can’t read that kind of stuff anymore. It is difficult to suspend one’s disbelief once you have read Immanuel Kant’s ‘Critique of Pure Reason.’
So I guess I will read the more ‘literary’ writers now. Impressed with Dickens!

What do you write, what kind of writing - fact or fiction? What genre?

Writers rule the world (in the long run)


If you don't read fiction then maybe I can change your mind about that. Read Robert Harris The majority of his books are based on factual events and real people. His last book the Ghost is loosely based on Tony Blair and his second last book Imperium is his version on the life of Cicerio one of the worlds greatest orators and philospher's.
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trublu Rialto USA
I am getting soooo tired of those who are just plain fat trying to claim it as being average or only a few extra pounds, as if everyone accepts obesity as the new norm. Makes about as much sense as accommodating all the methheads because that is getting so epidemic.
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dragonfly88 valencia, Valenciana Spain
EastbayRay: Philosophy. Huge amounts of philosophy.





gosh! too deep for me, let's just say it raises questions I don't want answered.



EastbayRay: I used to write short stories .................... and stopped writing fiction...



That's what I do-- short stories and fiction sometimes based on facts ??





EastbayRay: I haven’t read fiction in a long time, but just the other day picked up Oliver Twist. I used to read writers like Stephen King and Wilbur Smith when I was about 14-16 but after years and years of academic philosophy I just can’t read that kind of stuff anymore. It is difficult to suspend one’s disbelief once you have read Immanuel Kant’s ‘Critique of Pure Reason.’
So I guess I will read the more ‘literary’ writers now. Impressed with Dickens!


I like Dickens, can't stand stephen King but only because I am scared afterwards so I only own a book of his and only because it was a present, I wouldn't have bought it!

Never read Kant and I'm not really sure I'd want to... I might if I could have it in English though.. but it's not in my list of priorities.




EastbayRay: What do you write, what kind of writing - fact or fiction? What genre?!



all sorts of gendre and themes from children's to adults depending on the mood of the day.

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jbibiza Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Philosophy. Huge amounts of philosophy.
I haven’t read fiction in a long time, but just the other day picked up Oliver Twist. I used to read writers like Stephen King and Wilbur Smith when I was about 14-16 but after years and years of academic philosophy I just can’t read that kind of stuff anymore. It is difficult to suspend one’s disbelief once you have read Immanuel Kant’s ‘Critique of Pure Reason.’
So I guess I will read the more ‘literary’ writers now. Impressed with Dickens!quote]

I suggest you read the following book... one of the few things I've read that I wanted to discuss afterwards.

Brooks Hansen’s The Chess Garden (1995) is among the most memorable novels I have read in recent years. The novel tells the story of Dr. Uyterhoeven’s--his romance of his wife in the Netherlands and his years of quietly championing a homeopathic approach to medicine--interwoven with letters he writes in the twilight of his life after traveling back to South Africa during an epidemic. These letters concern his supposed adventures to the Antipodes, a fantastical land populated by living game pieces such as rooks, pawns, dominoes, etc. On one level, the letters are delightful tales for his wife to read to the children who gather in the doctor’s chess garden, but on another level they are powerful allegories about the doctor’s life, and his life’s work. Miraculously, The Chess Garden manages that most difficult of tasks: it melds mimetic and fabulist fiction while appealing simultaneously to the intellect and to the emotions.
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Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
EastbayRay: And I'm a narcissist!


Come on, Ray, enough with the bragging! laugh wave

Seriously, I used to be into narcissism, too, and I've never quite forgiven myself for falling for another person...mumbling crying blushing
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jbibiza Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Ambrose2007: Come on, Ray, enough with the bragging!

Seriously, I used to be into narcissism, too, and I've never quite forgiven myself for falling for another person...


The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history.
Bertrand Russell

Rock on narcissist's head banger
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spiceygamble Hell, North Carolina USA
Muscles... interesting.
Being as I've dated men with everything body builder physiques, slightly overweight(I do have my limits) to slender rails for bodies, I sort of feel like I've walked up & down both sides of this fence.

I don't like boy bodies or chunky bellies. I'm a very fit person & my physique is highly toned. I have come to realize I require some level of fitness/activity from a partner. I do like the bodies that show me effort. I can appreciate the massive sacrifices one puts themselves through to maintain a certain shape, size or level of strength. I like healthy bodies & continuity of overall form. If I see a roid gut & stretch marks... I want to vomit. Having big arms & bird legs makes me howl laughing. If I see bones showing through hips & chest, I feel like shoving a burger down his throat but not my tongue.

Bottom line, I'm working on being a personal trainer. I know the world is full of self conscious people, some with great bodies, some with not so great bodies. I like 'em fit, bigger & stronger than mine...
...but then again- I'm a little person & that's not that much to ask.


wink
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spiceygamble: Muscles... interesting.
Being as I've dated men with everything body builder physiques, slightly overweight(I do have my limits) to slender rails for bodies, I sort of feel like I've walked up & down both sides of this fence.

I don't like boy bodies or chunky bellies. I'm a very fit person & my physique is highly toned. I have come to realize I require some level of fitness/activity from a partner. I do like the bodies that show me effort. I can appreciate the massive sacrifices one puts themselves through to maintain a certain shape, size or level of strength. I like healthy bodies & continuity of overall form. If I see a roid gut & stretch marks... I want to vomit. Having big arms & bird legs makes me howl laughing. If I see bones showing through hips & chest, I feel like shoving a burger down his throat but not my tongue.

Bottom line, I'm working on being a personal trainer. I know the world is full of self conscious people, some with great bodies, some with not so great bodies. I like 'em fit, bigger & stronger than mine...
...but then again- I'm a little person & that's not that much to ask.



heyyy spicey!!!hug
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spiceygamble Hell, North Carolina USA
blue_eyed_blonde: heyyy spicey!!!


Hello Sweetheart!
hug
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dazzling_dave Waynesboro, Virginia USA
spiceygamble: Muscles... interesting.
Being as I've dated men with everything body builder physiques, slightly overweight(I do have my limits) to slender rails for bodies, I sort of feel like I've walked up & down both sides of this fence.

I don't like boy bodies or chunky bellies. I'm a very fit person & my physique is highly toned. I have come to realize I require some level of fitness/activity from a partner. I do like the bodies that show me effort. I can appreciate the massive sacrifices one puts themselves through to maintain a certain shape, size or level of strength. I like healthy bodies & continuity of overall form. If I see a roid gut & stretch marks... I want to vomit. Having big arms & bird legs makes me howl laughing. If I see bones showing through hips & chest, I feel like shoving a burger down his throat but not my tongue.

Bottom line, I'm working on being a personal trainer. I know the world is full of self conscious people, some with great bodies, some with not so great bodies. I like 'em fit, bigger & stronger than mine...
...but then again- I'm a little person & that's not that much to ask.


<<<<<<<<<Furiously going through the yellow pages trying to find a gym in my area.
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nelly23 isle of man, Isle of Man, England UK
i dont like big muscles or six packs dont like beer bellys either. my ideal man is of a normal build with a little natual muscle on there arms. wink
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hrt4lse Redding, California USA
I tend towards liking muscles. I'd rather be able to tell there's strength in a man's arms while he's gently holding me.
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