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Is it time for another American Revolution?




Munichtexan
Brno, South Moravia Czech Republic
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 5:19 AM CST
Listening to all of the supporters of Political candidates - I can not help to wonder why none of the Politicians are really in touch with the people's issues. America is or fast becoming a 3rd world nation.

1) Legal taxpayers are supporting a growing number of illegal immigrants who pay no taxes, It is degrading our school systems, health systems, and transportation systems. It is moving money quickly out of the USA into Mexico and other countries.

2) Lawyers and politicians are crippling the ability of business to operate in the US.
a) The minimum wage criteria has moved industry out of our inner cities.
b) Liability insurance accounts for 20% of the cost of all products to the consumers.
c) Insurance coverage for small businesses forces many of them to reconsider doing business in the US, yet they provide 80% of the jobs in the US.
d) the BIS legislation is now moving Research and Development over seas.
e) Manufacturing jobs have been lost first to the Japanese, then the Koreans, Taiwan, Mexico and now China.
f) We have no real policy for reducing our dependency on foreign oil.
g) People are more concerned about being sued than if they do the correct thing.
h) Our prisons are containing a higher percentage of our population, yet crime is increasing.

3) The average "law abiding citizen" is loosing their homes - while government funds go to "bailing out the banks" who are taking the homes in the first place.

4) The IRS can take everything you have - sure you can fight them, but all of your money is "frozen" in the banks.

5) Traffic tickets now cost more than most people earn in a week.

None of the candidates for President discuss openly these issues. Maybe we should vote for our own candidate?
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Aseeker
Seattle, Washington USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 7:24 AM CST
Would be my guess, that if the politicians don't get it handled soon, the Minute Men and people who are just as sick of the illegal immigration, are going to simply take the law into their own hands (nope, I didn't see a thing, and won't). When all that starts, whoever is in the White House might get a clue, and instead of wondering if he/she will be next LOL decide it is time to start working for the people, not his wallet, and get busy on some of those other issues. But dealing with the one would make a positive impact on all the rest, so I think that is where it should start.
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 7:26 AM CST
LOL.

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Jimi123499
Central, Victoria Australia
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 7:28 AM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
LOL.


Pass the popcorn pleeeeeeeeease.........

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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 7:34 AM CST
Jimi123499 wrote:
Pass the popcorn pleeeeeeeeease.........


I will share my popcorn with legal migrants only. LOL!


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Jimi123499
Central, Victoria Australia
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 7:37 AM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
I will share my popcorn with legal migrants only. LOL!


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BnaturAl
Sarnia, Ontario Canada
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 7:55 AM CST
Munichtexan wrote:
Listening to all of the supporters of Political candidates - I can not help to wonder why none of the Politicians are really in touch with the people's issues. America is or fast becoming a 3rd world nation.
None of the candidates for President discuss openly these issues. Maybe we should vote for our own candidate?


There won't be a revolution, not in the old sense of the word. In the last revolution there was a 'level' playing feild. same type of weapons, numbers of soldiers etc. Today the Gov't has more weapons than you can shake a stick at.

And if the gov't got wind of any revolt they would have it extinguished long before it gained any serious momentum. In fact they are probably reviewing your tax situation and ability to organize followers, as we speak laugh

Revolution will come from voices.JMHO As for the oil companies and big biz. They don't give a tinkers dam about anything but profit, just the way it is. Capitalism at its ummm finest.confused

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Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 8:11 AM CST
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TTom50
Orlando, Florida USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 8:41 AM CST
What bothers me is this.........

We (both business and individuals) give them (gov't) answers (some partial and other major) to such things the energy crisis, homeland
security threats, illegal immigration and other areas of concern.

They politely listen and occassionaly they fund test research project. But unless that test project has most of the primary issues covered.
It basically is trashed. No one physical project, or technology project,
or information project has all of it issues covered in the test phase.

They then keep looking for answers. When the answers (or some of the answers) have been shared with them. It a reason, things like the wall on the southern border have been delayed for so long. Why
cars still get 22 miles to the gallon. Why nuclear materials can be
smuggled into the country. Why we don't have a manned space system to replace the Shuttle.

They need to recognize the people and business that come to them with ideas (solutions) for such problems are also trying to work inside the system. But often they (the gov't) seem to only want in house
solutions to thier issues and problems. It is the gov't specifies and the vendor produces complex, I call it. They actually seem desire to keep such individuals and business outside the system and to use them solely as vendors. As vendors, they are outside the information
loop of the gov't agencies often. It is the 'we vs them complex' that gets created.

I think that there is limits to our technologies and our abilities in this finite world with its limited resources. You keep saying 'no' to solutions
of your problems, trying to find the perfect answer or total answer,
and you make yourself ineffective and obsolete. You may never find those prefect answers. I think that is where our gov't is headed. And it explains a number of things......
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Jimi123499
Central, Victoria Australia
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 8:57 AM CST
Wow and I thought this was a site to meet people.......and you can just meet the nicest people here too......like my friend one time at band camp met............zzzz

Isn't there a revolution site going round for this.........are we gonna sit round the fire and sing war songs next?????????



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trublu
Rialto, California USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 9:39 AM CST
BnaturAl wrote:
There won't be a revolution, not in the old sense of the word. In the last revolution there was a 'level' playing feild. same type of weapons, numbers of soldiers etc. Today the Gov't has more weapons than you can shake a stick at.

And if the gov't got wind of any revolt they would have it extinguished long before it gained any serious momentum. In fact they are probably reviewing your tax situation and ability to organize followers, as we speak

Revolution will come from voices.JMHO As for the oil companies and big biz. They don't give a tinkers dam about anything but profit, just the way it is. Capitalism at its ummm finest.

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I don't think this will be a revolution with weapons really, except the ones trained on the borders. I think that when the politicians see us doing their job, they will perhaps think "Hmmm, if I don't get off my ass, I might not get re elected, and my wallet could get thin." Yeah, their most vulnerable spot is always the wallet.
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 9:44 AM CST
Do you honestly think that the people of this country are going to do anything that might cause even the slightest discomfort for themselves?
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dreamer_too
Transplanted to, North Carolina USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 10:40 AM CST
dazzling_dave wrote:
Do you honestly think that the people of this country are going to do anything that might cause even the slightest discomfort for themselves?


Nope, I don't. Why would they want to when they can't even get involved on the level of their community until things happen that they don't like? All they had to do would have been to expressed their opinions and what they don't like, never would have happened. There is power in people however, until they can start at the lower levels, the higher levels will continue to have power over the masses.
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Munichtexan
Brno, South Moravia Czech Republic
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 1:28 PM CST
dazzling_dave wrote:
Do you honestly think that the people of this country are going to do anything that might cause even the slightest discomfort for themselves?


As long as people are comfortable, you are right. Nothing happens. So is everyone comfortable with the situation as it is now?

No one wants to see benefits, improvements or a better situation for their children?

And yes, this is a site to meet people. Does this mean we have to vote on the most popular picture and who the sexiest person on the site is, but not have any real discussion on any real matter? Sure I have plenty of jokes that get flung around the internet as quickly as you can hit the send button. Too bad that real communication is frowned upon.sticking out tongue
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 1:35 PM CST
Munichtexan wrote:
As long as people are comfortable, you are right. Nothing happens. So is everyone comfortable with the situation as it is now?

No one wants to see benefits, improvements or a better situation for their children?


I'm sure everyone would like to see those things. They only want to see these things as long as it costs them nothing. Far too many people today are so self-centered that they won't even sacrifice for their children.

The new motto of the American people is, "Ask not what I can do for my country. Ask what can my country do for me."
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Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 1:39 PM CST
Jimi123499 wrote:
Wow and I thought this was a site to meet people.......and you can just meet the nicest people here too......like my friend one time at band camp met............
Isn't there a revolution site going round for this.........are we gonna sit round the fire and sing war songs next?????????


Have to disagree with you on this.
We all do things differently. Some people like the threads that play word games and tell bar jokes.
I like the threads in which people are talking about current issues, politics, etc..
It shows me some men's minds.

I admit it.
I have a brain fetish.
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Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 2:44 PM CST
Munichtexan wrote:


And yes, this is a site to meet people. Does this mean we have to vote on the most popular picture and who the sexiest person on the site is, but not have any real discussion on any real matter? Sure I have plenty of jokes that get flung around the internet as quickly as you can hit the send button. Too bad that real communication is frowned upon.


To me, this is the most important types of discussion we should be having on the site.
Anyone can laugh and joke and have fun. These types of discussion let you know what really makes a person tick.
To those of us who are awake at what is really going on in the world, we should not even think of having a mate who is not likewise minded. I would rather know and have assurance that my mate has my back!
Communication is what keeps a relationship thriving. I could sit with a man and have this type of discussion for the rest of my life and be content, sharing information together. This is what I am looking for in a mate. Not someone who sits around and tells jokes or judges how sexy someone else is. That would get old in time.
I will say it here and now in front of everyone...
Munichtexan, I find you extremely sexy... your MIND turns me on!
Keep these posts comming, for those of us who feel they are important. There are lots of other posts those who are not interested can go to.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 2:46 PM CST
dazzling_dave wrote:
I'm sure everyone would like to see those things. They only want to see these things as long as it costs them nothing. Far too many people today are so self-centered that they won't even sacrifice for their children.

The new motto of the American people is, "Ask not what I can do for my country. Ask what can my country do for me."



The last Democrat debate really turned me off. It was a "lovefest" of what the American people needed done for them. Nothing about empowering people to do things for themselves. Self-reliance will probably be removed from American dictionaries.
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Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 2:47 PM CST
girlnextdormouse wrote:
Have to disagree with you on this.
We all do things differently. Some people like the threads that play word games and tell bar jokes.
I like the threads in which people are talking about current issues, politics, etc..
It shows me some men's minds.

I admit it.
I have a brain fetish.


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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: Feb 2, 2008, 2:49 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
The last Democrat debate really turned me off. It was a "lovefest" of what the American people needed done for them. Nothing about empowering people to do things for themselves. Self-reliance will probably be removed from American dictionaries.


They are just trying to get back to a simpler time. Surely you remember that television classic, "Aunt Hillary Knows Best." rolling on the floor laughing
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