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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Sun Feb 3, 2008 9:55 AM CST : On Euthanasia
I am currently writing a short essay on euthanasia (which I will perhaps post here before I submit it).

Personally I am FOR euthanasia, involuntary euthanasia (the most controversial form) as well as voluntary. I am for all forms of euthanasia, passive/non-aggressive and even aggressive euthanasia (the administration of lethal substances as apposed to the withdrawal of life support systems/medication: i.e. non-aggressive).

I am against, however, assisted suicide. This is where a husband, say for instance, helps his wife commit suicide (but I am only against it by way of seeing Euthanasia legalized).

P.S. I am aware of the moral dilemmas attached to euthanasia, but I am of the opinion these should be considered in the individual cases in which they are given cause to arise and not 'one in all' in the sense of a moral absolute by virtue of which euthanasia in all instances is to be denied. Fuckers.

What are your opinions on Euthanasia? How do you feel about it?

I believe in your right to your own life, and your right to death if you are rendered by misfortune to such a state of misery that you have no quality of life and can only welcome death as your deliverer. professor
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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:07 AM CST : On Euthanasia
Is this issue to challenging and intellectual for you people, or something?professor roll eyes mumbling
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Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:12 AM CST : On Euthanasia
EastbayRay: I am currently writing a short essay on euthanasia (which I will perhaps post here before I submit it).

Personally I am FOR euthanasia, involuntary euthanasia (the most controversial form) as well as voluntary. I am for all forms of euthanasia, passive/non-aggressive and even aggressive euthanasia (the administration of lethal substances as apposed to the withdrawal of life support systems/medication: i.e. non-aggressive).

I am against, however, assisted suicide. This is where a husband, say for instance, helps his wife commit suicide (but I am only against it by way of seeing Euthanasia legalized).

P.S. I am aware of the moral dilemmas attached to euthanasia, but I am of the opinion these should be considered in the individual cases in which they are given cause to arise and not 'one in all' in the sense of a moral absolute by virtue of which euthanasia in all instances is to be denied. Fuckers.

What are your opinions on Euthanasia? How do you feel about it?

I believe in your right to your own life, and your right to death if you are rendered by misfortune to such a state of misery that you have no quality of life and can only welcome death as your deliverer.


I'm for both...I want to die with dignity and if/when it is my choice to do so...then I want that right...I don't want to waste away with some disease being in pain every second of the day, nor do I want to be a burden on my family or have them see me like that...

Assisted suicide..I don't see the difference...If the person is too incapaciated and needs help...I see no problem...Where I draw the line at though is children who don't have the capacity to decide and the parent decides for them!!!!!!!!

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HJFinAZ Sun CIty, Arizona USA
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:13 AM CST : On Euthanasia
So, what is wrong with it? Is it not already used in the prison systems?

As to assisted suicide, why not? Hospitalas rack up millions a year keeping dead people alive. Hence, a DNR on my records..

My "opinion"...
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Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:15 AM CST : On Euthanasia
HJFinAZ: So, what is wrong with it? Is it not already used in the prison systems?

As to assisted suicide, why not? Hospitalas rack up millions a year keeping dead people alive. Hence, a DNR on my records..

My "opinion"...


Yep I don't have one yet...BUT will also have a DNR on mine when the time comes!!!!!!!!


No machine is gonna keep me alive...that's not living!!!!!!!!


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HJFinAZ Sun CIty, Arizona USA
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:15 AM CST : On Euthanasia
People that will not let a loved one die are the most selfish people in the world. It is all about THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!barf
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Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:16 AM CST : On Euthanasia


I've never been opposed to Youth in Asia. I don't see where there's a problem. They seem to be good kids laugh
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rwantin Costa Mesa, California USA
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:17 AM CST : On Euthanasia
I am personally opposed to any form of involuntary euthanasia - it strikes me as impossible to assign that responsibility to a third party.

I have seen people die long, slow, lingering deaths, so if it was their wish to circumvent it, I have no issues with that. The line between assisted suicide and voluntary euthanasia seems a bit vague to me. What is the difference? I am sure there are, I just can't finger it.

I've seen a lot of views on this - I once lived in the same city of one Dr. Jack Kevorkian...

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fireliter Allen Park, Michigan USA
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:18 AM CST : On Euthanasia
I've heard to many who have lost use of body and limb even those whose mind functions properly on a temporary basis form time to time want to die or wishit would end...yet because they have insurance and are not a burden but moire a finanical profit is achieved by those poor unfortunates continuing to breath .

I have seen little placards on pateints charts and at the nurses stations basically stating let this one die ( no code).
However the very next room that person has insurance and so all the knowledge and technology is at the ready to preserve that suffering soul while the oither has become a finanicail burden they are allowed death.

this is my view on why it is not allowed.
profits are what motivate this, that and family who because of personal emotional connections will not let go, allow their loved one to have death with dignity. if there is any time where love involves sacrifice this truly must be the time.
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Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:18 AM CST : On Euthanasia



At some point the government will tell is when it's time to pull the plug. Give it time. It will be a cost/benefit analysis type situation. The weaker will be cast aside first.


JMO~
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roxette25 rural, Manitoba Canada
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:19 AM CST : On Euthanasia
I agree with you on the euthanasia issue - if the circumstances are right. If the person agrees (if possible) or has stated this earlier.
I lost my father to cancer a couple of years ago. It was the hardest thing to go through. Everything slowly shutting down as the family has to watch this for months and months. The only thing he didn't lose was his mind so he was fully aware of everything and how terrible it was for him and the rest of us. He stated many times that this was not how things should be and even asked my brother to help him end it. Of course nothing any of us could do but wait. Very agonizing.
So write your paper, and perhaps send it on to someone who can change things - we can't change anything most likely but it never hurts to try. I have considered writing letters myself to my local politicians but so far have not done this.
The assited suicide thing is simply what we are forced to do because there are no other alternatives. I don't necessarily agree with it but if I had had the courage I would have helped my father.
Good luck with your paper.
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Hugz_n_Kissez Someplace, Ontario Canada
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:20 AM CST : On Euthanasia
Indyfella: At some point the government will tell is when it's time to pull the plug. Give it time. It will be a cost/benefit analysis type situation. The weaker will be cast aside first. JMO~


I agree and that's the sad part...You become a profit/loss statistic and not a life!!!!!!!

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fireliter Allen Park, Michigan USA
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:22 AM CST : On Euthanasia
EastbayRay: Is this issue to challenging and intellectual for you people, or something?

just type real slow only excuse i have don;t belittle me for itrolling on the floor laughing
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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:23 AM CST : On Euthanasia
HJFinAZ: So, what is wrong with it? Is it not already used in the prison systems?

As to assisted suicide, why not? Hospitalas rack up millions a year keeping dead people alive. Hence, a DNR on my records..

My "opinion"...


Sorry, maybe you misunderstand the terminology. Assisted-suicide is not medically supervised like Euthanasia. If I help you to kill yourself that is assisted-suicide and not Euthanasia.

It has moral dilemmas attached to it that are politically very problematic. It has only been carried out where euthanasia was not legal and out of mercy. Many have stood on trial for murder.

If Euthanasia were legal, I would certainly not let assisted-suicide be legal. The whole point is to make suicide as humane as possible.

A peaceful departure from the world . . . wine
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Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:24 AM CST : On Euthanasia
Indyfella: At some point the government will tell is when it's time to pull the plug. Give it time. It will be a cost/benefit analysis type situation. The weaker will be cast aside first. JMO~

Was only 75 years ago when a Government came into power that arrogated that right to itself.
Does anyone want THAT situation again??
But please after I am gone!
doh doh doh
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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:27 AM CST : On Euthanasia
rwantin: I am personally opposed to any form of involuntary euthanasia - it strikes me as impossible to assign that responsibility to a third party.

I have seen people die long, slow, lingering deaths, so if it was their wish to circumvent it, I have no issues with that. The line between assisted suicide and voluntary euthanasia seems a bit vague to me. What is the difference? I am sure there are, I just can't finger it.

I've seen a lot of views on this - I once lived in the same city of one Dr. Jack Kevorkian...


Euthanasia is clinical and physician assisted death, whereas assisted-suicide is, simply put, me helping you commit suicide say, by helping you to put a hosepipe from your exhaust into the car window and holding it there while you wind the window up. wine
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Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:29 AM CST : On Euthanasia
EastbayRay: Sorry, maybe you misunderstand the terminology. Assisted-suicide is not medically supervised like Euthanasia. If I help you to kill yourself that is assisted-suicide and not Euthanasia.

It has moral dilemmas attached to it that are politically very problematic. It has only been carried out where euthanasia was not legal and out of mercy. Many have stood on trial for murder.

If Euthanasia were legal, I would certainly not let assisted-suicide be legal. The whole point is to make suicide as humane as possible.

A peaceful departure from the world . . .

As in the Movie "Soylent Green"?
Told you before,Ray,you're on a Slippery Slope with those German "Philosophers".
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gentlepaws Any town, Ontario Canada
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:34 AM CST : On Euthanasia
Is euthanasia and abortion not one and the same ? Just a difference in the measure of time ?
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fireliter Allen Park, Michigan USA
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:35 AM CST : On Euthanasia
sdemantics medically trained use the word Euthanasia. i've encountered many who have knowledge of that word but asisted-suicide, mercy killing these are prevalent terms used on the streets.

many unable to "pull the plug" themselves , many with out the benefit of high priced mediacl care who slowly vegetate at home or in homes.

Euthanasia is for those who have insurance consider mercy killing or assistd suicide as Euthanasia being "McGyvered"

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EastbayRay Limassol, Limassol Cyprus
Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:36 AM CST : On Euthanasia
roxette25: I agree with you on the euthanasia issue - if the circumstances are right. If the person agrees (if possible) or has stated this earlier.
I lost my father to cancer a couple of years ago. It was the hardest thing to go through. Everything slowly shutting down as the family has to watch this for months and months. The only thing he didn't lose was his mind so he was fully aware of everything and how terrible it was for him and the rest of us. He stated many times that this was not how things should be and even asked my brother to help him end it. Of course nothing any of us could do but wait. Very agonizing.
So write your paper, and perhaps send it on to someone who can change things - we can't change anything most likely but it never hurts to try. I have considered writing letters myself to my local politicians but so far have not done this.
The assited suicide thing is simply what we are forced to do because there are no other alternatives. I don't necessarily agree with it but if I had had the courage I would have helped my father.
Good luck with your paper.


Thank you Roxette, and don't worry

We can change EVERYTHING boxing


I once spoke to a woman who is ex-British intelligence and she told me about how her father begged her to end his life because he was in such agony from the liver cancer he had; she couldn't, didn't, and he lived for nine more days in agony and died.

Don't worry, Roxanne: NEVER AGAIN!

I will not see the one's I love die in agony or live utterly incapacitated lives against their will.

Euthanasia WILL be a thing of the future.

And our loved ones WILL depart this world peacefully . . .
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