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Who Is Barack Obama?

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nowwhat
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 3:41 AM CST
This was mailed to me from a "Right Wing" American.

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Probable U.S. Candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a black muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white Atheist from Wichita, Kanas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was 2 years old his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya.
His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia.
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia.
Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta. He also spent 2 years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the 2nd husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his Stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorist who are waging Jihad against the Western world.
Since it is polically expedient to be a Christian when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ to downplay his Muslim background.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside-out, what better way to start than at the highest level-through the president of the U.S., one of their own!!! Also keep in mind that when he was sworn into office, he did not use the Holy Bible, but instead used the Kuran. Would you want this man leading our country?
Not me!!!

Like I said this came from the right! barfing

Here's my opinion:
Sorry, but this is just the kind of racist propaganda that makes me wanna blow chunks.barfing There's alot of similarities between Islam, Christianity, and Judaism. They have lived together for centuries in disharmony & harmony, not unlike the rest of the world. They are all monotheistic religions who worship the same deity,& share the same reverence for the books of the Old Testament. The Muslim extremist who advocate for Jihad are not representative of Islam as a whole: one could draw a parallel from Muslim extremist to the Christian extremest who blow up abortion clinics and kill people to support pro-life stances.
All of this information is taken out of context. Any serious scholarship of Obama should a different perspective (to an unbiased person) than the one this B.S. has conveyed.
I am not naive! The evil that drives Bin Laden & others like him poses a deadly threat that should be taken seriously; but, if we allow fear to manifest itself in predjudice (which leads to hate), we are feeding the evil, not fighting it. This fight dwells in a spiritual realm as well as the material one. As to the material world, if you want to better understand the conflict between Islam & Christianity, I encourage you to read some literature on the Crusades for it is there you will find the genisis of it.
All apologies to any perceived indiscretions but I felt compelled to a blatant smear job that does nothing more than play on prejudice & fear.

BILLY
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Oslojente
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 3:45 AM CST
"Funny" thing is that alot of it isn't even true...
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nowwhat
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 3:47 AM CST
Damn Freemasons!rolling on the floor laughing
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yoursuperman
Lynchburg, Virginia USA
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 3:50 AM CST
He sure didn't salute the American Flag dunno
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Oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 3:57 AM CST
But he was never sworn in with his hand on the Qu'ran...
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 3:57 AM CST
Like how you see it or should I say.. can see past it..
My folks buy every word as FACT...many just wont listen to truth because they want to believe the bad..
Believe it or not and sadly...Many whites are still just way too racist!

However: if you dont believe what was at the begining of this thread.. why post it and plant seeds of doubt?

He has my vote............. and I dont give a sh&^ what anyone thinks!

If HE proves me wrong later down the line, OH WELL!
then I will fit in with all of thoses that voted for Bush... whom are mostly ashamed to admit now that they did.
cheers
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lusciousmile
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 3:57 AM CST
I wish someone would expound on the falsity in the post instead of shrugging off a quick, ambiguos comment. rolling eyes


Nice thread by the way. thumbs up
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lusciousmile
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 3:58 AM CST
Typo:

I wish someone would expound on the falsity in the post instead of shrugging off a quick, ambiguous comment. rolling eyes


Nice thread by the way. thumbs up
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:03 AM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
Typo:

I wish someone would expound on the falsity in the post instead of shrugging off a quick, ambiguous comment. Nice thread by the way.


Whats the point??
Have you seen the latest polls? he has come from 100 behind and is now past Hillary by over 15,
with what states remain and the deligate split so far... No way either can get enough deligates not to be a shoe in,,
It will fall on the super deligates to decide!cheers
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OverTheWindow
Chicago, Paris, Marseille, Illinois USA
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:04 AM CST
yoursuperman wrote:
He sure didn't salute the American Flag


Gee, a politician who does not salute the flag...

What next? Milk coming from a cow?
D'oh!
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:09 AM CST
rasgumby wrote:
Whats the point??
Have you seen the latest polls? he has come from 100 behind and is now past Hillary by over 15,
with what states remain and the deligate split so far... No way either can get enough deligates not to be a shoe in,,
It will fall on the super deligates to decide!


It's always nice to see such threads, it makes everyone aware of those who base their votes on absurd reasoning and misinformed notions.

I swear this on the quran i'm holding. ( applause )




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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:10 AM CST
OverTheWindow wrote:
Gee, a politician who does not salute the flag...

What next? Milk coming from a cow?


Also.. Bill Richardson had his back 100% to the flag as if shunning the flag,,law is.. you are to face the flag............

Yet.. not one person has said a word about that???!!!
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:10 AM CST
rasgumby wrote:
Like how you see it or should I say.. can see past it..
My folks buy every word as FACT...many just wont listen to truth because they want to believe the bad..
Believe it or not and sadly...Many whites are still just way too racist!

However: if you dont believe what was at the begining of this thread.. why post it and plant seeds of doubt?

He has my vote............. and I dont give a sh&^ what anyone thinks!

If HE proves me wrong later down the line, OH WELL!
then I will fit in with all of thoses that voted for Bush... whom are mostly ashamed to admit now that they did.



All joking aside now. grin

I totally agree with this post. applause
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Oslojente
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:15 AM CST
"We are asked to believe that Sen. Obama, who professes to be a practicing Christian and has spoken publicly of his "personal relationship with Jesus Christ," is in fact secretly a Muslim and has lied all along about his true religious affiliation.

No proof is offered by those who make these claims -- no sightings of Barack Obama attending a mosque, no pictures of him reading the Qur'an, praying to Mecca, or observing Islamic holidays with his family. The entire case, such as it is, rests on a confused and error-ridden recitation of Obama's upbringing and purported childhood influences. It also rests on -- or exploits -- a deep fear and mistrust of the Muslim faith.

Virtually everything we do know about Obama's parentage and upbringing, it should be stipulated, comes from the senator himself. Obama told the story of his search to uncover his African heritage in Dreams from My Father (Three Rivers Press, 2004), and shared further autobiographical details in The Audacity of Hope (Crown Publishers, 2006). He spoke at length about his Christian beliefs in a 2004 Chicago Sun Times interview with Cathleen Falsani. Must we take his word for all of it? Not necessarily, but in the absence of contrary evidence we have no reason to seriously doubt Obama's own candid account of his life story.

Was Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a "radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia?"

No. Though Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was raised a Muslim, he had lost his faith and become a "confirmed atheist" by the time he attended college, according to his son. Obama's parents separated when Barack was two, his father moving not to Jakarta, but to the United States, where he attended Harvard. Eventually he returned to Kenya.

Did Obama's mother go on to marry another Muslim named Lolo Soetoro who "educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools?"

Yes and no. When Obama's mother remarried, it was indeed to an Indonesian man named Lolo Soetoro, whom his stepson describes as a "non-practicing" Muslim. But it was his "secular" mother who supervised his education, Obama has written, sending him to both Catholic and Muslim primary schools after the family moved to Jakarta. There is nothing on record to indicate Obama attended a madrassa (Muslim religious school) run by Wahabbists, and in any case it's unlikely his mother would have chosen to expose him to such an extreme form of Islam given her stated abhorrence of religious closed-mindedness and her stated goal of giving him a well-rounded education, including in matters of faith.

(Update: CNN has tracked down the school in question, the Basuki School in Jakarta, which a deputy headmaster described as a "public school" with no particular religious agenda. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment," he told CNN. A classmate of Obama's described the school as "general," with students of many religious backgrounds attending. Obama entered the school at the age of 8 and attended for two years.)"
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Oslojente
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:15 AM CST
"Is it true that "Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim?"

Once a Muslim? When? Unless I missed it while skimming Obama's two books and sundry interviews, the senator has never mentioned being a Muslim at any point in his life. Yes, he lived in a Muslim country during part of his childhood and briefly attended a Muslim school there, but he certainly wasn't raised a Muslim and has never been, so far as I can determine, a practitioner of that faith.

That anyone, let alone a sitting U.S. senator with designs on the highest office in the land, would conceal being a Muslim for twenty-odd years while going through the outward motions of practicing Christianity (or vice-versa, for that matter) is a truly bizarre accusation. I would be tempted to dismiss it as paranoid lunacy if it weren't so obviously a crass, politically-motivated smear.

Is it true that when Obama was sworn into office he used the Koran (Qur'an) instead of the Bible?

No. Barack Obama placed his right hand on the Bible during his swearing-in ceremony. Whoever made this allegation has confused Obama with Congressman Keith Ellison, who really is a Muslim and was sworn in on January 4, 2007 using a copy of the Qur'an."



From about.com, Urban langends...
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rasgumby
Moberly, Missouri USA
Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:16 AM CST
lusciousmile wrote:
All joking aside now.

I totally agree with this post.



AWWW shucks.............. Someone filanny agrees with mesticking out tongue

Im so delighted that I might pee myself...rolling on the floor laughing
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rasgumby
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:18 AM CST
rasgumby wrote:
AWWW shucks.............. Someone filanny agrees with me

Im so delighted that I might pee myself...

oops...... Finally
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Sparky55
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:25 AM CST
Nowhat,

Nice post. Even though I would not vote for Obama becuase of political differnces, I don't want him to lose over a bunch of half baked lies. The guy has been pretty clean thus far and doesn't deserve this kind of crap.
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lusciousmile
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:26 AM CST
Sparky55 wrote:
Nowhat,

Nice post. Even though I would not vote for Obama becuase of political differnces, I don't want him to lose over a bunch of half baked lies. The guy has been pretty clean thus far and doesn't deserve this kind of crap.


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Posted: Feb 13, 2008, 4:33 AM CST
Oslojente wrote:
"We are asked to believe that Sen. Obama, who professes to be a practicing Christian and has spoken publicly of his "personal relationship with Jesus Christ," is in fact secretly a Muslim and has lied all along about his true religious affiliation.

No proof is offered by those who make these claims -- no sightings of Barack Obama attending a mosque, no pictures of him reading the Qur'an, praying to Mecca, or observing Islamic holidays with his family. The entire case, such as it is, rests on a confused and error-ridden recitation of Obama's upbringing and purported childhood influences. It also rests on -- or exploits -- a deep fear and mistrust of the Muslim faith.

Virtually everything we do know about Obama's parentage and upbringing, it should be stipulated, comes from the senator himself. Obama told the story of his search to uncover his African heritage in Dreams from My Father (Three Rivers Press, 2004), and shared further autobiographical details in The Audacity of Hope (Crown Publishers, 2006). He spoke at length about his Christian beliefs in a 2004 Chicago Sun Times interview with Cathleen Falsani. Must we take his word for all of it? Not necessarily, but in the absence of contrary evidence we have no reason to seriously doubt Obama's own candid account of his life story.

Was Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a "radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia?"

No. Though Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was raised a Muslim, he had lost his faith and become a "confirmed atheist" by the time he attended college, according to his son. Obama's parents separated when Barack was two, his father moving not to Jakarta, but to the United States, where he attended Harvard. Eventually he returned to Kenya.

Did Obama's mother go on to marry another Muslim named Lolo Soetoro who "educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools?"

Yes and no. When Obama's mother remarried, it was indeed to an Indonesian man named Lolo Soetoro, whom his stepson describes as a "non-practicing" Muslim. But it was his "secular" mother who supervised his education, Obama has written, sending him to both Catholic and Muslim primary schools after the family moved to Jakarta. There is nothing on record to indicate Obama attended a madrassa (Muslim religious school) run by Wahabbists, and in any case it's unlikely his mother would have chosen to expose him to such an extreme form of Islam given her stated abhorrence of religious closed-mindedness and her stated goal of giving him a well-rounded education, including in matters of faith.

(Update: CNN has tracked down the school in question, the Basuki School in Jakarta, which a deputy headmaster described as a "public school" with no particular religious agenda. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment," he told CNN. A classmate of Obama's described the school as "general," with students of many religious backgrounds attending. Obama entered the school at the age of 8 and attended for two years.)"


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I have admired you oslo .. for quite sometime for the posts u make . Very well substantiated with reason . I might not always agree but i like the composed sense of presentation.

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