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we cannot even keep drugs out of our schools.rapes happen in the bathrooms and hallways. and this is only high school and younger.



The buzzer could help warn after the fact... It would be more of a reactive measure

Teachers being issued weapons is a foolish idea ....I've dated teachers and just because they teach does not by any means make them responsible or wiser or more attune to societies problems... or capable of good judgment when a firearm in placed in their hands.

we as society have taken away a very valuable tool to inspire respect in our children from the teachers.... discipline at the younger ages.

It's hard for be to believe intelligentce is respected by children. remember what is said about a childs formative years, it is then many traits are instilled in them such as repecting adults ,superiors, and teachers and neighbors. yeah its a fear based respect... but in time a child becomes an adult and the fear dissolves but the respect remains.

school random shootings sprees are more common than any other building or structure random shooting spree does that not make you wonder... from sporting events to public venue gatherings,children and young adults attend them don't they?yet schools are the number one choice Why?

But don't you think because of the sue you culture both of our countries have developed. Schools and teachers are to scared of interfering for because they might be sued. So its down to greed.

Because some Horses Arses thought they could improve Security at Schools,by making them "Gun-free Zones".
Now I wonder what Genius "Thunk" that up.
Bet the Crazies are going to obey that law!
No it wasn't the Botanist who thunk it up,but it most
likely was one of his Brain-brothers.

If you are able, try to get Times Magazine, " The most notorius crimes in American history" You'd be shocked by some of what you learn....school shootings are now more frequent, but have been around for a very long long time.

There just doesn't seem to be any respect or regard for human life anymore..where things used to be settled with fists...people are now picking up a weapon and making it permanant....

I still don't understand how people can so resolutely defend gun culture. Without being simplistic about it....surely the less guns around the less likelihood of gun killings.

Well I would assume the same thing...BUT it's also not the legal gun owners that are the major problem but the criminals...Black Market guns are always going to be available...So if someone wants to get their hands on a gun they would be able too regardless...We have that here...no permits allowed for handguns unless it is for target shooting or for transporting the weapon to a target shoot...YET we have a high rate of gun crime in the major cities because of the black market guns...I'm not defending guns...I'm trying to inject some common sense into a problem that seems to always concentrate on targeting the wrong areas!!!!!!!!

I understand. But if society didnt accept being armed to the teeth as a normal state then the volume of guns in the community would come down and gradually easy availability would diminish too. JMO

My thing...

Me and my Girls live in an area where Guns are just about in every home in the state.

Fortunately because of this knowledge, Shootings or threats of doing so have not arisen.

I really do not fear a school shooting here, predators and pedafiles are a fear...
But if anything like that was to happen to my children... anyone who would draw a gun here would have to be a pretty quick shot because it will not last long.

Even off duty police carry thier guns with them...

Where there is a fear of guns... there is a fear to act up.

Where there is a fear of guns... there is a situation for one who has a gun to victimize many.

so either way one needs to wiegh the pros and cons and vote accordingly to thier belief.

i always go back to thomas Jefferson Davis who said ... a well armed society is a polite society.

JMO

availibility would diminsh but would not dissapear.

There will always be Just as drug dealers... someone who will be around to get you what you want for a price.

Just look at Drugs... and even look at Alcohol laws... how has either of them controlled thier prospective problems.

I get propositioned many times to partake in drugs.... when i'am not seeking them they are still offered.

How would Making Guns illeagal really change things... other than take them from the hands of defenders and place them in the hands of those who will victimize the law abiding.

If someone really wanted to rob you they can do it with a machete or even a baseball bat... and can still take your life...
A gun in the hands of the one being victimized would save thier own life if the perp was intending to take a life anyway.

Just something to think about, as you watch the news and see around the world in those areas where guns are not permitted.... Death rates have lowered... i will give you that.... but violent crimes and thefts have double and even triple.

Again JMO

Agree with you Scottishlass!! Seems that when someone has some kind of problem they take out their rage on kids!!! This is amazing!

But FM, they have virtually disarmed us here in England and the gun crimes are at an all time high - its a crazy world

I understand.....but the school massacres, the crazy things, are not done by criminals they are done by alienated loners often who have easy access to guns in a society riddled with them. This is not so much about crime as about ordinary people who lose the plot for a bit and can get hold of guns to act out their fantasies and their pain.

well said fallingham !






thats the problem in america !...what i cant understand is the BRITISH EXCUSE ??????

I see that as a start somewhere ... otherwise its too damn scary !!

Give teachers back some authority! Teachers and Administration have no power to enforce proper behavior and respect, a child can spit in a teachers face, strike them and the teacher can do nothing. I think any crime committed with a gun should carry a mandatory lifetime sentence with no possibility of parole.

I am so incredibly disgusted by the low value placed on human life, the lack of respect and basic manners that people have towards each other.

Thats why I live on a little island that has not had a single gun crime in the five years that I have been here, and crime has actually reduced by 30% in the last 2 years... we went from 12 purse snatchings, to 9

true !!

I feel such incidents from time to time bring to light the severity of a problem we face which is multi-dimensional !!!

Children form the backbone of our future ... the occurence on increasing accounts of incidents untoward ... ex: Drug abuse, Shooting sprees, Sexual crimes ... almost a large bulk of issue encompassing juvenile delinquency need a more serious look in to the social structure functioning at present.

Is it us , society, peers , consumerism or the whole agenda and scenario that exists of mutual alienation interms of emotions and sense of security ....

A need exists to reflect for each one where things are going wrong ..

Yes !!!! curbing arms procurement or even carrying arms would DIMINISH such incidents ... but arent our problems the result of our own actions which we are now trying to retrace ?

A reflection in to what we have made of our own society and family culture reveals many lacunae which can be filled and need to be addressed at almost a daily basis to make a start in solving a by far BIG situaiton at hand !!

I grew up with the saying 'whatever happens in America usually takes five or ten years to start happening here' - I really hope not!!

I havent read the latest on yesterdays shootings so dont know but it does seem youre' right in the 'alienated loners' thing so hows this happening to these kids, how are they becoming so alienated and is nobody keeping an eye out for kids potentially at risk - is there help available if they are identified, whats the common denominator between these kids - how can we possibly stop it happening - surely teachers can spot at risk pupils or are they not allowed to intervene or something