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Sad thing some people only like to argue and get flippant when they hear the truth.

You'd be surprised what one can use for a weapon.
But most likely you know that
Just like to do a little US-Bashing.
Has become real Fashionable around here again lately.

don't worry about it, Easter is almost upon us, they will leave the U.S. alone for awhile and start bashing Christians...

neverending story in the Land where Money is God and rules

Knowing them,they'll probably start pitching Rotten Eggs at everybody.

It all comes down to mindset the media in america bombards people with cop shows and news reports of mayhem and murder that lead people to believe they are in constant danger when statistically speaking they may not be, so its not so simple as saying look at iceland 3 gun murders in 44 years.




What about all those gun nuts who have gone on killing spree in colleges and malls recently they all bought there guns legally




No in that scenario unless your the fastest draw in the west he'll shoot you as soon as you reach for it best case scenario you manage to shoot him too and you both die

YOu're talking about a FEW. We're talking statistically. The numbers are way higher in regards to illegal gun purchases

[/quote]No in that scenario unless your the fastest draw in the west he'll shoot you as soon as you reach for it best case scenario you manage to shoot him too and you both die[/quote]

YOu know what I meant. However, that exact scenerio did happen to me in downtown cleveland. I have a conceal carry permit, and when I was TOLD by gunpoint to give a nice young man my umbrella....ella...ella..... I politely showed him my 9mm and he lovingly ran away.

Please correct me me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that all adults start out as children! And if they had been taught right from wrong as children then we wouldn't have all these mixed up mis-fits running around killing folks and giving guns a bad name!

I might point out that I was a shooting instructor for several years for my local 4-H club. We taught gun safety and marksmanship to children from ages 8 to 18 using everything from BB guns to muzzleloaders and shotguns, as well as archery. We made a habit of never referring to them as weapons, as we wanted the kids to understand that they could safely enjoy shooting without ever even considering using the various guns/bows to take another life, human or otherwise.

I don't own guns to make myself feel safer, although I'm thankful that I had a father who cared enough about me to make sure that I was well versed in their safe handling. And who also taught me right from wrong at a very young age! Nope, all of my guns - while they could conceivably be used for personal defense - were bought for a specific purpose. From the original (circa 1832) double barrel muzzleoading shotgun which I use for pheasant, grouse and skeet, to the .54 caliber Mowrey (also a muzzleloader) which has been my main rifle for deer hunting and blackpowder competition for the past 10 years. These, and a myriad of others in between, all have special functions and special meaning to me and none them has ever been used against a human. As a matter of fact, if someone tries to break into my home, they are entirely more likely to encounter a tomahawk in my hand than a gun. (And believe me, I am quite proficient in it's usage as well!)

Guns aren't the problem. People are. Guns are just tools who can't think for themselves and have no control over what kind of idiot picks them up... If your're concerned about public safety, then Educate the people. But leave my guns out of it!

Statistically speaking or not more gun laws like longer waiting times the necessity to produce a certificate of sanity something to keep unbalanced people from getting there hand on guns must be considered and can only be a good thing.



was this some special gold handled umbrella coz otherwize why Awould some guntoting thug want it and B why would you risk being shot over it

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hey, it messed my quote thing all up there.

was this some special gold handled umbrella coz otherwize why A would some guntoting thug want it and B why would you risk being shot over it[/quote]

Jeez,another one.
Didn't your Government steal all the Firearms in Ireland under a pretext.
So now you're so miserable you want it to happen everywhere else.
I was shot by a Punk in a Former British Colony,where it is supposedly impossible to get Firearms,unless you go through an about 6 Months Vetting process.
And Hand-guns are outlawed there.
Well,the Monkeypuke did the Impossible.
Put that in your Pipe and smoke it!!!

How can you say that when he has united the country as has not been done in over 30 years?

Yeh and I'm glad they did theres enough guncrime in this country as it is without them being freely available, as for your being shot your not seriously suggesting just because someone survives the vetting procedure or more likely stole the gun from its legal owner and shot you all gun laws are pointless by that logic why bother with security at airports since as evidenced by 9/11 it doesnt always work.

All I said Conrad is that I'd advocate trying to keep guns out of lunatics hands if your of sound of mind and body I realy dont see the problem with waiting a few months after all all good thing come to those who wait

anywhere in the U.S. you can find somewhere to buy a gun, underground, so keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics is impossible with or without the "waiting period", coming short of actually cutting their hands off...

winning a debate could mean ou are more than a great debater.

also his star becoming tarnished is only the result of hyperbole.

not to in particularly defend this candidate
but one must consider
why?
why is there more of a spirited passionate resistance
as ive noticed at least, than toward any candidate in a very long time...

he has a dream, an agenda, opinions and a direction-
these are characteristics that anyone who hopes to lead
would possess-and is generally embraced by those seeking leadership

these are attractive qualities of their own

it seems with this candidate people find him nervy for these traits
and 'aggressive' i think the reporter used that term?

i can identify w/ many people seeing clarity of speech as aggressive
or confrontational. in my opinion confrontation is not generally, something that makes me uncomfortable, altho i do at times become defensive before responding-
but thats my stuff-not the actual 'fault' of the other party...

an agreement to confront dilemma is what is always the open door
to growth - its one reason this country came into existence and definitely how it has survived-enuf agreement to confront-
or attempt change and growth...its called voting

like a teenager-living, deciding, and sometimes re-considering
and changing direction, america is in its adolescence
and developmentally normal.

ps i am a born and bred american

I completely see where your coming from but again just because bad people still get there hands on guns doesnt mean you stop trying to keep there hands off them.

okay, do you understand that bad guys have the means to get guns from other bad guys? So, then normal everyday people being unarmed are sitting ducks...no one can stop people from getting their hands on a gun--all they need is the cash flow

I expect nothing less from peole who are blinded by his charisma. we could bebate this all day and night. You will never change and I won't either. So what's the sense?? If I said green....you're automatic response would be blue. So let's just agree to disagree!!

By punishing everyone else??????
Think about it.
Tell the Victims of the LA-Riots in the '90's,and they had to wait 15 days to get Ammo for their Legal Firearms.
And if a Looney can't get a Firearm,he'll use whatever is handy.
You wouldn't believe how efficient a killing instrument a Hatchet ,Knife or Machete is.

isn't that a bit childish thinking? Just because people actually have hope in a man, and want to ride that dream doesn't mean that anyone is blinded by charisma...I don't expect anyone to change unless they are willing to. The childish thing was the blue green thing...