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hj
i think she just really had a comprehension of insanity
and was fearless
as hope can help us to be sometimes

you got a gift that is still giving
thats awesome

Sorry for your loss HJ but happy you are such a lucky man.

Interesting thread . . .

Yes, I had a woman who stuck with me thru "thick and thin." Fact we were married for 25 years and I loved her with all that passion that the romance novels all try to portray. You know, when she was around my heart literally wanted to sing. I loved her with the kind of love that few ever know and for that I wouldn't change any of how it was for me.

Then came a time---ten days in a hospital---when it looked like it likely was all over. I waited for a blood clot in my leg (injury) to either dissolve or for more to break loose into my lung and kill me. Yes, I had that privelige to look the Grim Reaper in the eye and to know him with intimacy. And I got honest with myself. My wife was not there facing him with me.

My wife---absolute beauty that she was---loved me to the best of her ability. But it was NOT the same love as I held for her. There was commitment, there was caring . . . Yes she stayed with me caring for me, while she suffered. Somehow for her, true love had to suffer. She was never happy. She wanted more. I was just not good enough. I knew she'd loved the man she knew before me and it was never a source of jealosy or contention with me. But I suddenly realized that I could NEVER be enough. I had been adopted by a mother who wanted her own child but settled for me . . . So yes, I created that all over again with my marriage.

In meeting the Grim Reaper I changed! And that relationship, that sick F****** game was no longer one I would play with her. It took about 18 months to finally agree that I too, wanted that divorce she 's been threatening me with about once a month for those past 25 years.

Now I am looking for that woman who wants that perfect love with me that I once had with my ex-wife. And I want to know that kind love within me again too. I'm clear that it is not how perfect the other person is, rather how perfect your love for them is. But this time I will not settle knowing it is not the same for her.

I've listened to y'all lament your marriages here. Maybe with me, you can see the other side of it just a little?

Egorhh

But I suddenly realized that I could NEVER be enough. I had been adopted by a mother who wanted her own child but settled for me . . . So yes, I created that all over again with my marriage.





This is repeating a pattern which is your comfort zone, we all do it but usually dont realise it. It is like the child of an alcoholic marries an alcoholic

If I had a woman like that I wouldn't be here. Women like that don't exist.

yes hun they do,they just get worn out sometimes it the love is not returned

Absolutely true . . .

Nothing ever changes in your life---different faces, same people---until YOU change. And to change you, you must change your mind. You must see things differently.

Like I once did, most everyone needs tell themself a lie or two every time they wake up just to get themselves thru the day. If the didn't---If they faced the truth, they'd have to change---their whole life would change. Most don't truly know just what that change would be. We all fear the unknown. But most are clear that there would be a price. And that price is something they'd literally sell heir soul rather than to pay.

For me, then, I knew it would cost not having that woman in my life to love again.

The grim reaper reminded me that my soul is all I have and all I am.

Like hamsters on a wheel we go around and around because we know no different or are to scared to know


It is our self worth as well that must change, we have to realise that we are worth more.

" . . . worth more" or ARE MORE.

Samo-samo . . . dontcha think? Isn't self-worth really about recognizing that the truth about this consciousness that most are so focused on as being, is really such an infinitesimal small part of who we all really are?

We all know the definition of infinity, but we (this conscious being) are simply not capable of truly KNOWING what that is. I think it is the same with knowing that "higher power" or "God," just as it is with knowing our souls.

Ah well, enough spiritual fornication for now. Let's prolong the orgasm.

Nobody will ever love me the way Sue did. She was my third wife and died after 16 years of marriage.

But I can say say....I have been loved.

Me, I did!

I often use the "thick and thin" thing to justify my anger. Because, well, she's not with me now after all. But, whenever I'm really honest with myself, I am forced to admit that it is my fault. I knew that she would be with me through "thick and thin," and I abused the "thin" until there was nothing left.



A lesson learned the hard way.

Apparantly none of us if we're all here........

SHIP!!!!! Take the serious hat off, no one will recognize you!!!



Seriously, I wish I could say the same.....really.

WTF who put the hat on Goose???

did "thick and thin" ended on a single-site then?

























sorry

oh lord ,,,,have you ever over analysed things..yes we need to be aware of our part in the scheme of things but you have taken it so far that I cant even understand what you are saying.

True...Even if you love someone...It won't last when it's not returned...This is expecting waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy too much from someone who deserves to be loved just as much in return!!!!!!!!

Ended for other reasons, not sticking through good and bad. It just was what it was. Some I wanted to end, others they did. I think there's always one that doesn't want it to end (from my experience anyway).
I suppose my ex-wife was that person, stuck through no matter what but I wasn't happy and looking back, it was the right decision to divorce. We're still friends, she's been with someone else for over 10 years.
People in long-term, with no end in sight, relationships are very lucky.
Maybe one day, it'll happen to me too.

Yes . . . sigh!

Story of my life. Not many women out there can understand me. I've been accused of over-analizing---don't know if that is what you are saying. That lady was clearly just calling me an )o(



"S okay. Been called worse.

It's the thought system. Some call it "Consciousness" or "New Age"--and then y'r right. Even of those, most don't take it as deep as I do. But then, most don't regard the Grim Reaper as a best friend.

Sweet--sour . . .
Good--evil . . .
Those who truly appreciate life--I believe--must know death.

YIKES!!! THERE I GO AGAIN . . .

she really loved me once.....

























Once

Woman just love me for one thing.......because after all.......

























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