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You are what you are until you die. It is always you will ever be. This is the only impression you will ever leave on people who knew you, and it is enough. Who will remember you 10,000 years from now? It doesn't matter. It only matters to those who fear death, and who think there is something somehohw positive in living forever. If some believe that living forever is adbantageous, they don't unterstant the immediacy of time.

Sorry for all of you who fear death more than I.

There is no hell.

you've never been married to my ex-wife....obviously!!!

Hi I am new here. But Would like to answer this question.
Truth is I do not know if there is a God or not, but I beleive in doing the right thing as to not hurt another anyway. God or no God, I do not like getting hurt, so why hurt someone else. Doing the right thing is doing the right thing for your self. And if there is a God well then I guess he should apreciate the fact that you are good for a better reason then just him. If you are doing the good thing only to get accepted in heaven then you are only doing it in the long run to bennifit your self. And wouldn't you be disapointed if you find there are no pearled gates? Just another life to come back to. What we have right now is what we know. So why not make it the best we can right now? I chose to try and make this life the best I can for myself and others around me. this brings me peasure here and now. And if there is a God then I have done nothing wrong in his eyes, and if not I have lived with no regrets.
As far as the other question, To love knowing we would never be loved in return? Or to Be loved knowing we will never return love what whould I chose? I would like to say neither. But I will chose to love knowing I would never be loved in return. Because if I chose that I will always be loved in return if only being loved by myself. And if you can't love yourself, you most certianly will not ever be able to be loved by anyone else.
Lessons learned the hard way!

I am fundamentally selfish.

I do things that please me.

I serve no one.

I do not believe in Hell.

I would do NOTHING!!! to please a god that would send me to hell and I can't say I would like him much for it either!!

Doesn't mean I would stop believing in the vital importance of being kind to people and obeying the golden rule, etc....
And it would have nothing to do with being selfless.
Far as I'm concerned, it's bad enough he's going to send us to hell anyway, may as well behave while we're still here.....
Can you imagine if everyone was totally selfish, mean, sadistic, evil...?

No point creating a HELL ON EARTH!!

I will always do what my conscience feels is right ..I don't do it to please God or any one but myself..I am the one who looks in the mirror every day ..No one can love me unless I love me first......I know I will always be loved if I can look in that mirror and like what i see...

in one sense it is selfish ....in another it is a benefit to others but not necessarily to please others...only me....jmho

I must admit, being raised in the Bible Belt, I'm surprised to learn how few people believe in God. I will say, I do not believe in a burning hell. I believe that hell is on earth.

I believe in sonmething..whether it is God or whatever...i am just sayin as I was raised a catholic....I do the right things for the reasons not because of any one being I believe or dont believe in...



I know where your comin from though D

Not to sound stupid, but I have a question for you. A person who believes in a forgiving God, beleives that earth is Hell what is so forgiving About God that he makes you go to hell first, then decides if you decides if you deserve Heaven? And if hell is here on earth what do you believe comes next?
If I were to understand anyone who beleives earth is hell then either we leave hell and go to Heaven, or we go to nothingness. Or are we destined to live in Hell untill we have earned the right to go to Heaven? Are we paying for sins we commited in how many life times ago? And where is that a forgiving God to keep you in hell until you rectify a past sin, and not give you any memmory of that sin? And what about your upbringing, Where is it fair to be born into, lets say a family that teaches you more wrong then right? when you are born you begin your life here on earth. Every thing that happens to you from that day on forms who you are and what you know. So If you are not given a chance to see both sides good and bad how are you able to escape hell here on earth?
I am not condemming anyones beleifes but with such a broad spectrum of views on God it does tend to create even more questions.

What she said

Maybe we weren't sent to hell (hell being earth) to begin with.

Maybe we are part of god and have broken away or got lost.

And I sometimes think we do have memory.... we just can't remember.

Maybe it helps to forget.
I myself am confused to pieces over 40 years of a very uneventful, quiet existence.
Can't imagine coping with remembering the years and events of past lives too.

As for being born in unfavourable circumstances, you never know, maybe there's a reason for that, too.

Maybe, maybe, maybe......
Most people have no way of knowing when it comes to the how and why of god.

I don't know how I missed this thread!

Do you mean like whether people would begin to steal, rob, destroy, kill, and that kind of thing just because they knew they'd be going to hell anyway? Then my answer would be no.

My friends like to tell a story about a person who was supposed to spend his next life in hell for his sins but was given a chance to spend a few days in heaven. Asked which one he'd use first, he chose heaven, and when he entered it, he ran to the nearest temple and began serving God to wipe out his sins so he wouldn't have to go to hell. A little food for thought.

this is gonna be interesting.....

i wish all people were less offensive(the real definition)
nor defensive...
more open minded
and actually soft hearted and interested in learning

i feel very fulfilled living a life of service and cant wait until my child goes to college so that i may live my life full time in service

what you do to the least of me you do also to me.

i dont think im better than anyone else
nor do i believe i am earning anything
i have just transitioned to really feeling happier this way.
i dont think about it all the time-
what many people, both those who call themselves christians
or non christians do not seem to understand that that relationship is neither about works deeds or acts

it is a free gift-it changes you from the inside out
being human this is a really difficult concept-the free gift
but the changes i resisted in my intellect i now hilariously embrace...weirdness fer sure.

im not saying anything is better, anyone is smarter,
im saying i am happier and i cant give away what i dont have

if some want to say im a dummy-oh well
matters zero to me-but of course sometimes its hurtful
ive never said anyone was dumb for not...whatever...
that would be like-uuh-really hypocritical.

i may be a lot of unattractive things but that aint one of em

oh breezee you greek philosopher you




i missed you sweetie

Hey, friend

It's true.
For all my agnosticism I am happy/grateful for the chance to help a church out with its garden once a week.

I like to greek-philosophise while I weed (old church ladies keep exciting stuff like pruning for themselves ) and just last Saturday I was thinking about the real beauty in life coming from love.
If you love something you devote time and care freely.... with no thought for reward.
What often comes as a result of that love is beauty.... heaven..... god's will.....

''Thy kingdom come, thy will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven....''

Missed yoo too, MF (My Friend)

see y'all later

Maybe it helps to forget.
I myself am confused to pieces over 40 years of a very uneventful, quiet existence.
Can't imagine coping with remembering the years and events of past lives too.


I am truley sorry, and mean no disrespect to you. But I do not understand much of what you just said. How can someone be confused by a very uneventful quiet existance? Most people would give there right arm for that kind of life. and your reply makes me question even more that God is forgiving or that he exsists. And as far as this being hell on earth, If you could not cope with your past lives too, Well what are you coping with that would make this hell for you? And why do you get a quiet uneventful life, while others are suffering with illness, starvation, there own governments turning against them, broken hearts, loss of every concievible thing imanginable? PLEASE tell that to the the 2 year old little boy who will die tonight becuase there was no food or medical attention for him that he sufferd be cause God is a mystery. But there is a reason you have a quiet uneventful life here in hell and he had to suffer every single day of his life.
Please tell that to the aids baby that no one wants that he has to be alone and suffer Because God see's it fit to give you and others a quiet uneventful life in hell and others will suffer and continue to suffer!
My point exactly! God is fair, and forgiving! I believe the only ones who believe that are the ones who live quiet uneventful lives, and keep blinders on to what is happening to the rest of the world.
I personally beleive that wether there is a God or not the world is ours and it is what we make it. There is suffering and there will all ways be suffering until each and every single person is willing to help each other, instead of trying to hurt each other.
It just seems to me that there are to many people in the world that turn there back on a fellow human being, and says Sorry Bub, we all have our own problems your in hell with the rest of us. Deal with it!
No one seems to think what happens in there lives is fair. I wonder just how many people have ever said Why God why me this is so unfair! Did God do it or did we do it to our selves?

Yes, I accept that God (or to satisfy your 'inclusivenes' any supeior power) has the AUTHORITY and ABILITY to condemn me to eternity in hell. Accepting that this is possible, I admit that God is greater than I and can do with me as he will. All that is left to me is to trust in his judgement and mercy.