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Inevitable reality ..Then what ? Opinions from the guys too pls.

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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:17 PM CST
I often work with couples in situations like that.. and I do see no matter how much they love their partner.. sometimes.. resentment can creep in. Even if it only a teeny little bit at that certain time/day.

Other times where it has been an ongoing or progressing problem that needs some intervention.. and we have had to take it further... or offer more.. do more.. whatever is seemingly best at the time.

Sometimes it can be incredibly frustrating/upsetting for the able bodied partner... and so sad to see.

(as I know Mair and Morgan already know)


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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:18 PM CST
True love is that which does not alter when alteration finds... true love is that of an unconditional kind.... its a bit like a mothers love for her child..

How one behaves in response to one of the situations mentioned above is perhaps an accurate measure of how much he/she loved the person in the first place...

The question would be do u love that person enough?...

There is no doubt that a physical or mental illness will challenge and test a relationship.. and the truth is it would NOT be like it was before.. its really just a matter of how strong the relationship is...the person would essentially have to make the decision.. 'do I love this person 'enough' to want to look after and support this person for the rest of our lives'... for many the answer will be 'no' for some the answer will be 'of course'!!...

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morganlee
Qawra, Majjistral Malta
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:18 PM CST
jbibiza wrote:
You know I really couldn't give an answer to that without being in the situation, of course I would like to think that I would stay with them, but the truth is I don't know. I do think that something physical would be easier to deal with then mental. With a mental disease or injury... would the person you had come to love still be there? Hard question.

I did date a man with Parkinson's disease for a few months, I found it really difficult. While I respected the fact that he insisted on doing everything for himself, I often found myself lacking the patience to deal with it... 15 minutes to put gas in the car, 5 minutes to unlock a door... I found myself wanting to reach over and just do it myself. Would I be more patient with someone I was in love with? I hope so.

Now I sound like a horrible, insensitive biatch... but I'm honest.
My Mum has Parkinson's and as someone who was in the caring profession i found it really hard to deal with BECAUSE i loved her so much. Maybe im just weird ! dunno
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morganlee
Qawra, Majjistral Malta
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:21 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
I often work with couples in situations like that.. and I do see no matter how much they love their partner.. sometimes .. resentment can creep in. Even if it only a teeny little bit at that certain time/day.

Other times where it has been an ongoing or progressing problem that needs some intervention.. and we have had to take it further... or offer more.. do more.. whatever is seemingly best at the time.

Sometimes it can be incredibly frustrating/upsetting for the able bodied partner... and so sad to see.

(as I know Mair and Morgan already know)
Yep thumbs up I found it so hard caring for my Mother, and you have to fight so hard for respite.
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jbibiza
Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:22 PM CST
morganlee wrote:
My Mum has Parkinson's and as someone who was in the caring profession i found it really hard to deal with BECAUSE i loved her so much. Maybe im just weird !



No, I don't think it's weird at all, I think it's difficult to see someone you love struggle with something they used to do easily. I think it's hard on everyone seeing our parents get older and less able to do the things they used take for granted
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:23 PM CST
morganlee wrote:
My Mum has Parkinson's and as someone who was in the caring profession i found it really hard to deal with BECAUSE i loved her so much. Maybe im just weird !


nahh.. that's the problem I've had with my Liver cancer buddy Trish.. I work with people dying a lot.. I always know what to say and do.. (even those WITH liver cancer).. But when Trish got it.. my mind went to MUSH.. and I have been completely lost for words.. never once thought I had found the right thing even to say.. yet almost daily I have found the words for 7 yrs.
This has shown me that it's definitely different when its someone you love.


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PILIPALA
Cardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:25 PM CST
morganlee wrote:
My Mum has Parkinson's and as someone who was in the caring profession i found it really hard to deal with BECAUSE i loved her so much. Maybe im just weird !




I don't think your weird at my lovely. My mother had Parkinson and later went on to devolved Alzheimer's. Found it extremely hard to cope with it. As i knew what to expect because of my job.

My sister is an alcoholic and this i find difficult as i deal with addiction in work.hug
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riyablossom
somewhere India
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:27 PM CST
Aries01 wrote:
True love is that which does not alter when alteration finds... true love is that of an unconditional kind.... its a bit like a mothers love for her child..

How one behaves in response to one of the situations mentioned above is perhaps an accurate measure of how much he/she loved the person in the first place...

The question would be do u love that person enough?...

...


I feel sometimes too much love spoils it too..

Definitely if it was someone i truly loved .. it wouldnt matter one bit and i would be rite next to him ..

But on an broad perspective .. in case of a loved one involved.. it is really difficult to handle as such ..quite bearing on your ownself mentally ..


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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:27 PM CST
PILIPALA wrote:
I don't think your weird at my lovely. My mother had Parkinson and later went on to devolved Alzheimer's. Found it extremely hard to cope with it. As i knew what to expect because of my job.

My sister is an alcoholic and this i find difficult as i deal with addiction in work.


(my mum died of alcoholism.. and my grandmother- I know alllllll about that)
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morganlee
Qawra, Majjistral Malta
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:30 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
nahh.. that's the problem I've had with my Liver cancer buddy Trish.. I work with people dying a lot.. I always know what to say and do.. (even those WITH liver cancer).. But when Trish got it.. my mind went to MUSH.. and I have been completely lost for words.. never once thought I had found the right thing even to say.. yet almost daily I have found the words for 7 yrs.
This has shown me that it's definitely different when its someone you love.



I have found i felt so guilty because i couldn't handle it when as you say when working i always knew the right thing to say and do. hug
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:32 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
I feel sometimes too much love spoils it too..

Definitely if it was someone i truly loved .. it wouldnt matter one bit and i would be rite next to him ..

But on an broad perspective .. in case of a loved one involved.. it is really difficult to handle as such ..quite bearing on your ownself mentally ..


I know it wouldn't bother me if my partner lost limbs.. (even all of them).. wheelchairs.. had prosthetics and all that.. (i work with that too haha).. Or really.. the use of their 'Tackle' ... I think I would still feel the same.

I think the thing that I would struggle with the most would be mental illness of some kind.. or some kind of mental deterioration... if I couldn't talk to them in the same way as I had before.. over time I think I would find that hard.. I think then the 'love' would (eventually).. turn into a different kind of love.. one more of care and concern... and not 'Love' love.

If that makes sense rolling eyes laugh
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riyablossom
somewhere India
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:33 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
nahh.. that's the problem I've had with my Liver cancer buddy Trish.. I work with people dying a lot.. I always know what to say and do.. (even those WITH liver cancer).. But when Trish got it.. my mind went to MUSH.. and I have been completely lost for words.. never once thought I had found the right thing even to say.. yet almost daily I have found the words for 7 yrs. This has shown me that it's definitely different when its someone you love.


crying hug so true ..

No Morgan.. you are not at all wierd !!

In my work dealing with accidents is routine ... but when my little bro. met with an accident i knew what to do and i can easily detach from my emotions.. but for once for a min. I Did feel so giddy and blank for a while ..

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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:33 PM CST
morganlee wrote:
I have found i felt so guilty because i couldn't handle it when as you say when working i always knew the right thing to say and do.


haha I know.. strange isn't it.. you would think we would be the best people to deal with it rolling eyes
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:34 PM CST
If you're "pursuing" a relationship, then no, I would break off the romantic element of it. If I'm already in love, then it's too late. I'm hooked for the duration. It would be impossible for me to abandon someone I loved.
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riyablossom
somewhere India
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:34 PM CST
PILIPALA wrote:
I don't think your weird at my lovely. My mother had Parkinson and later went on to devolved Alzheimer's. Found it extremely hard to cope with it. As i knew what to expect because of my job.

My sister is an alcoholic and this i find difficult as i deal with addiction in work.


Mair... that is realllyyy difficult !!! sigh
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:35 PM CST
riyablossom wrote:
so true ..

No Morgan.. you are not at all wierd !!

In my work dealing with accidents is routine ... but when my little bro. met with an accident i knew what to do and i can easily detach from my emotions.. but for once for a min. I Did feel so giddy and blank for a while ..


Thats it.. when the chips are down.. you know what to do and it all kicks in .. 'detached'

(until after crying )

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riyablossom
somewhere India
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:36 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
If you're "pursuing" a relationship, then no, I would break off the romantic element of it. If I'm already in love, then it's too late. I'm hooked for the duration. It would be impossible for me to abandon someone I loved.


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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:37 PM CST
PILIPALA wrote:
I don't think your weird at my lovely. My mother had Parkinson and later went on to devolved Alzheimer's. Found it extremely hard to cope with it. As i knew what to expect because of my job.

My sister is an alcoholic and this i find difficult as i deal with addiction in work.


hug

IMO Alzheimer's is one of the MOST cruel things.. to the family.

The person WITH the Alzheimer's (over time).. seems perfectly happy living in their own little bubble... while everyone around them is left forgotten and heartbroken. It's a sad and very cruel illness imo.
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:38 PM CST
Ambrose2007 wrote:
If you're "pursuing" a relationship, then no, I would break off the romantic element of it. If I'm already in love, then it's too late. I'm hooked for the duration. It would be impossible for me to abandon someone I loved.


thumbs up same here

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riyablossom
somewhere India
Posted: Feb 29, 2008, 2:38 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
haha I know.. strange isn't it.. you would think we would be the best people to deal with it


true .. but we land up all lost in those moments ..
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