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I think may be you are mistaken Constanza ... because someone doesn't believe in your religion and doesn't follow your doctrins it does NOT mean they don't believe in GOD/DIVINE SPIRIT ... they just express their belief and their love WITH God instead of along the guidelines that you see as the only valid ones ...

Constanza you are being judgemental and are telling people that your way is the only good way!!! That is not acceptable!!

You need not worry about the souls of people who could/might be and probably are more enlightened than a lot of christians I have met (I know!! I know!!! Not in your eyes or heart!! - but we ARE all intitled to out own opinions and beliefs) ... because that is not only condenscending but also insulting to their intelligence and to their own beliefs ...

No it is NOT alright with me !!! Because if I wanted to live my life according to someone else's beliefs or guidelines I'd go back to my parents!!! At least I know THEY love me!!!

There is no BEST way to fear GOD!!! God is about love, forgiveness and understanding!!!

If you are going to be God's spokesperson you are going to need some more advanced arguments that don't sound like you're just reciting what you have been preached!!

No matter how strong faith is in itself, reason is STRONGER . . .

Reason asserts the better principle, period.

We are no longer children. A book is a book. Quit thy youth and wake up.

I don't think god is a waste of time because anything that represents love is never a waste of time: It's people that follow religion that turn it into some kind of doctrine of power, hate and superiority!!!!!!!

Yes, it is tantamount to religious fanatisim . . .

And that it is from Constanza does not surprise me.

In general, monotheists and monotheism has retraded the evolution of the human race.

The order and safty we enjoy in society today is not owing to religion and its moral teachings (as it has always made claim) but to Law. Period.

The Haters of Mankind.
Yes you know who you are,and I know too.

But that's not what I wanted to post.
Just something I came across some time ago.
That:
"Religion is for those that fear God.
That:"Spirituality is for those that have been to Hell and Back!"
I did not want to live in Fear the rest of my Life.
Keep your Religion with it's God,I have NO need of it.

My faith in God does not come from being preached to, but your rebelliousness is certainly linked to family issues. I am not here to convince anyone of anything; but I am cretainly not gonna stand by and watch some coming on these threads day in and day out denying and bashing God.

'your rebelliousness is certainly linked to family issues': religious nuts are so nice and non-judgmental aren't they?

Read her reply to me; also if you know people on here you know who is who and what their issues are; and no I will not be so nice and considerate when others have not shown me that. I do reply in kind; and you young man, change the heading on your profile: Try someone nice for a change......? please

My rebelliousness comes from family issues???? Constanza ... I am a 47 year old granmother who has longggggg got over being rebellious DUE to family issues!!!!


However, how I approach my personnal spiritual development has defenately sprung from not accepting the teachings and norrow mindedness and bigotry and judgemental way of treating people that christian people like you have tried to shove down my throat ...

And for your information I have more respect for God (Devine Spirit/ Devine Power) than you do, NOT through fear though simply through TRUST. I Trust in God's all powerful and protecting love for ALL humans ... even those who think they know it all ...

Now isn't there some flower arranging for you to do at your local church or something ...

Constanza you are most amazing!!! are you saying you KNOW me because you've read a few of my post and so you know what my "issues" are????

Constanza .... You are not alone in your thinking and I admire your courage in your writing about your beliefs in God. Horray for you.

Writing about one's beliefs IS commendable ... judging others and telling them they are wrong for having different ones IS NOT !!!

hey Conrad ( I am goint to hijack this tread for a moment)
since you mentioned Ayn Rands books I read Atlas Shrugged
wondering , if there is much difference in that and Fountain Head
or if it is - culture vs individual -with the same message

It was never Culture vs the Individual,BUT The Collective vs The Individual
The Collective as the Juggernaut.
The Collective as the Destroyer.

So your answer is no difference ?

I found the Fountainhead to be more subtle, individual and perhaps more powerful than Atlas Shrugged, although I loved both books. It is one of the few books I quote on a regular basis

"...casting pearls before swine without getting so much as a pork chop in return" is one of my favorite lines.

It is worth reading.

Humanity?

When I see people ganged up on, it tends to anger me. It does not have to be an 'us vs them' thing, all it takes is to let everyone share the forums.

Oddly, I have not seen much input from Jewish or Muslims.
Satanists? Get real, they are just looking for attention.

Yes, I have considered possibilities, but have found a lot more personal belief in Christ.

I am not trying to convert anyone. I just want to see if the christians can be treated with the same respect as the non- christians.

Sorry if that idea bothers anyone.

I like it