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There are pictures from locations in the southern hemisphere. I'll get a list of those together. One that stood out was on youtube...."are you ready...part 3/3 (revised)"

The Nephilim, the Elohim, and the anunaki, are all the same.

And the "Serpent Seed" bloodline follows the Nephilim from their breeding with Eve to the present Jews.

I did post that earlier, you might have missed it.

But if you go by all the ancient text, then the New Testament is just an add on. (NIcean Cover up?)

I will get you some of the sources by tonight.

For Dio....

I couldn't find anything about nephilim in the koran, unless I missed it, but I don't thing the koran denies the old testament, so we can prolly lump the bible, koran, and the torah together.

I did find some translations of the Egyptian Bible ( not the book of the dead) which describes reptilian giants who were worshipped as gods, and the egyptians were told not to document their appearance (hense animal heads on humanoid bodies in the hyroglyphs and monuments)

The ancient egyptians referred to the giants as "watchers" which goes with some other theories.

Also, in india, the nephilim are reffered to as the naggi ? or Nagga, I'm not sire, I'm still looking at that.

AND, "Iriquois" means "Serpent people" and Suez also means "serpent"

Which follows the idea of the "serpent seed" bloodline. Real quick, that was the idea that fallen angels (Nephilim) bred with eve and started cain's bloodline. Supposedly, Satan (the head nephilim) had planned to inhabit most of the area around caanan before the lineage of Abraham (Jesus' ancestor)

I know it's alot to follow, and I'll try to come up with a better explination of the blood ine and who the nephilim really were, etc.

Feasibly, the Bible, the torah, the egyptian bible, and other books in other civilizations are not religious at all, but history books describing nibiru and the nephilim. One of the earliest writings was the egyptian bible (there's a name for it, but it eludes me) and all the others that came later, describe much of the same events and giants

next time? they rejected you once already?

actually thats not funny because people who claim to have abduction episodes are pretty traumatized by the event for a long time after; according to their accounts

the arizona telescope and satellite scope are online info .. how true I do not know at this point. still wading thru tons of other info .. and apparently NOONE is actually coming from anywhere ... until 2076 (making that up to start a new ruse) this is when Markymarksters from the planet Undulation, show up and teach Tom Cruise how to dance and talk properly and teach him a lesson for trying to scientolgize the planet.

<<<<would kidnap mark wahlberg for free

no they didnt keep me-it was a more temporary relationship
but id like the move it to the next level...
due to imminent circumstances-also i have no desire to see
either tom or his wife dance-

goose honey
elohim translation is not that
go look again

I saw a movie some years back about an astriod?,something hitting earth and there was or3 days to prepare for the end,1 thing was they took scientist,US President and others up in planes to keep them off earth till it was over.Very well done,almost like a documentary.Made me think abit.Then there were at least 2 Twilight Zones where the sun got hotter and hotter,another the bomb was dropped on Us and a man in a bank vault at the time came ut and found himself all alone.I thought after that show,I'd rater be dead.Gruesome subject but it will happen,global warming,The Rapture,earthquakes everywhere,whatever.I am glad Ihave my faith,cause I beleive I know where I'm going when I leave my body on this earth.

saw those but those are pixelated. seems to me there would be much better pictures given our abilities in the light spectrum these days, infra red and such and given that it is apparently only 4 years away, should mean a planet the size of jupiter should have much clearer images, as we do have of saturn and jupiter, being approx the same distance from us ?

there's other pictures online too of it being shown with the sun in the same picture (dual suns) WTF?? its says it comes up from the south, why would there pics on the western horizon .. thats not south at all, thats west!

Depends on Who's translation....


Crap, now you're making me backtrack through all these notes.......

I'm freaking fast....

In the Hebrew Bible and several non-canonical Jewish and early Christian writings, nephilim means the fallen [ones] are a people created by the cross-breeding of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men". The word nephilim is loosely translated as giants or titans in some Bibles, and is left untranslated in others.

The phrase "sons of God" is sometimes translated into English as "sons of gods". The Hebrew word, "Elohim", is a plural form, but is often used with single verbs and adjectives (as in this case) when the single meaning is traditionally understood.

The traditional Jewish view, deriving from the Book of Enoch, is that the fathers of the nephilim, the "sons of God", were the Grigori (a class of fallen angels also called the Watchers); however, there is some controversy on this point.

Some commentators suggest the nephilim were believed to have been fathered by members of a proto-Hebrew pantheon, and are a brief glimpse of early Hebrew religion, most of the details of which was later edited out from the Torah. Others, especially some Christians, suggest the "sons of God" were fully human. It is sometimes suggested that ridding the Earth of these nephilim was one of God's purposes for flooding the Earth in Noah's time.

Despite the literal text of the Bible and its traditional interpretation, the idea that heavenly beings mated with humans is controversial, particularly among Christians, who cite the teaching of Jesus in the Book of Matthew that angels do not marry (they may take the verse in question out of context because Jesus said that the resurrected don't marry in heaven but are as the angels).

Others who find the idea of angels mating with humans as distasteful have suggested more figurative interpretations of the nephilim, such as the idea that they were the offspring of men possessed by demons.Still others, including the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, take the traditional view of Genesis 6:1 that the allusion refers to some men, from the godly lineage of Seth, called sons of God (an expression denoting those in covenant relationship with YHWH, cf. Deuteronomy 14:1; 32:5), began to pursue fleshly interests, and so took wives of the daughters of men, i.e., those who were unbelievers descended of Cain. This is also the view presented in a few extra-biblical, yet ancient works, particularly the Second Book of Adam and Eve

Quote:

"If, as they claim, Nibiru is approaching the Earth from a
more or less hidden position from the South Pole, how is it
then that since 2003, people have been taking photographs of
it, or at least what they claim are photos of Nibiru, as the
Sun rises or sets in the East or in the West?

If Nibiru is behind the Sun in these images, doesn't that imply that it's
being seen over the eastern or western horizon, and not from
the south? How can this be then? If Nibiru is arriving from
the South Pole, then I would expect to have to look directly
south in order to see it, and not to the east or to the west.
It seems to me that there is a clear contradiction in what
these people are saying."

You keep saying that, but I'm not sure I buy it. I seriously question the credibility of Dr. Calleman's "expertise." I was required to read Spanish translations of the Popol Vuh, as well as the Chilam Balam for a Spanish American Literature course in college. I don't have a Doctorate, and I don't think one is required to figure out that the Mayans did record the movements of the heavenly bodies, and thier prophetic works and "calendar" did not exist in a vacuum exclusive of one another.

The Maya did keep track of the Sun, the Moon, and the cycles of other visible planets.

The Maya "calendar" did/does coincide with celestial events, and it does include religious information.

"All moons, all years, all days, all winds, reach their completion. Measured is the time in which we can know the benevolence of the Sun. Measured is the time in which the stars look down upon us."~Popol Vuh

This does not mean, that I believe that the Earth will meet with a cataclysmic end on Dec. 21, 2012. I do think it is interesting that the Maya, the Hopi, the Toltec, and others believed that the world has been destroyed and created anew in the past, and that it will happen again sometime in this century. It intersts me greatly because, the judeo/christian beliefs I was raised with share a similar teaching.

well I'd be more inclined to match up with the biblical end of times than the 2012 date being it... and I am unconvinced that this Nibiru has any wieght to 2012 since the first people who screamed it was coming promised it to come in 2003 and it did not of course.

The mayan calendar offerings (from anyone who prognosticates) are much like nostradamus, being backwords engineered to fulfill their meanings post facto rather than finding solid evidence before hand. I dont disagree they had amazing knowlegde of the stars (and had two calendars as well) but without an ancient mayan being present we are left to interpretations for the most part in any future regard.

The bible requires a number of things to happen before this end of times comes to pass and not much of it has happened as of yet. So, the sumerians, the mayans, the bible and other works state much the same things of our past in much the same way.. that is history (one of the main purposes of writing and record keeping) but for prognostication to work we need far more facts than just 'we believe'.

There are sceintific theories that our solar system will begin its own run backward into the center of the universe from whence it came as it matches up with the center of the universe in a particular line in 2012.

There are also a number of grand trines and farkin squares in astrology at this time as well... but again prognostication is shakey ground, where facts are needed. We can indulge possibilites, but I think we have to look at both sides of any issue as well. And you're right I agree it is very interesting subject matter.

There is scientific proof that sun just isn't going to wear out, given recent discoveries about energy ... so failing an outside agent acting to destroy the sun, and the stars, that phrase would have to translate as something like

"our, your, my, time is limited(measured), so make the best of it.

I suppose it could mean other things as well, (thats just mine on short notice)but if it means they know some god is going to step in or that the universe will collapse, well thats some pretty serious 'knowledge' ..

I might tend to agree with you there. I don't know much about Nibiru, but what I have read so far, is unconvincing.

P.S. BnaturAl I like your sty-Al

Hi Bnatural,What does the bible requiere to happen before the end times?

oooh typos. BenaturAl and require..! (I can spell promise)

On prognastication:

It is true that nearly all of Mayan Literature was destroyed by the Spanish. It is also true that much of what is known of Mayan language, and culture is derived from those same Spanish whose intent and purpose was not to give us reliable historical data, but rather to convert and control the Maya. And, it is true that those who followed the Spanish in studying the Maya may have had varying interests at heart. (including Dr. Calleman)

It is obvious to most people that Biblical, Mayan, and Nostradamian(I made that word up all by myself) prophecies, as well as others, have been liberally applied to modern current events after the fact. Most would agree that post-diction is nowhere near as impressive as pre-diction. However, it is too easy to dismiss the significance of their works on these grounds, because much of it simply will not sweep so neatly under the rug.

Is it possible that the Mayan priests, Biblical prophets, Nostradamus, Mother Shipton (if she existed), the Sybil, et.al....Is it possible that they had acess to some sort of super consciousness? Wouldn't it be great if, as Edgar Cayce suggested, we can all access this super consciousness with practice?











*I'm not debating you Al, I just enjoy the discussion

Holy shyte!! thats a long list! and in MHO opinion is as open to interpretation as any other prognosticative works.

But there's .. Wormwood!! which some are saying now is Nibiru; others say Chernoble... and .. Mark of the Beast, which some are saying is chipping, small micro chips put in our body to track you and your spending (and then his defeat)... armageddon, all leading to the rapture ... in no particular order I am going off course here... and I am no bible expert.

but the web I am sure as many links to the correalation of these events, just google it, hopefully find a bible scholar who isn't out to mess with your mind religiously and voila! Don't accept one source is a good idea as well.

well ty Dio!

there's a plethura of Nibiru shyte out there, videos with several different authors that makes it so complelling ..

Frankly without having seen and digested all the information from both sides, I think(at this point) this is just another part of the psy-ops perpetration, readying us psychologically for police states and supposed aliens, given the amount of UFO crap that is being perpetrated as well. By now we ought to expect this I think. The wizard of Od... we need to get that guy to come out from behind the curtain!!!

Thank B.N

Interesting indeed. I will be back tomorrow.