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My english is not very good so already sorry.

i wanna know y non muslim girls and boyslike eroupe or usa donto hasitate sex before marry . they all know its a big sin in all religions.
plzz serious answers.

For myself, I am not governed by religious rules but that doesnt mean I freely go about having sex with people - it does mean however that I have lost many of the inhibitions related to who or if I choose to have sex with.

Sex is a personal choice issue and not something I would allow a religion to dictate to me - just my opinion of course.

why do muslim men mistreat, and abuse women and USE them for sex...even when married to them??

Dear sir , its only belame on muslim male.

Ship ..who told you all that crap? In what century you live?



.... and how many American men and men from all over the World do the same. (SOME of them)

Many people in the Western world are agnostic or atheist So do not believe in sin. This doesn't always mean they sleep with multitude of partners It does mean thats is their own choice and not taken away from them by religious Doctrine

No..not only Muslim males...but some muslim women also have sex outside of marriage. maybe not a good muslim...but there are many "muslim women" in America that have sex without marriage.

But as a whole muslim men treat women as property and as sex slaves once they are married to them!!

So don't try and belittle non-muslims for their actions until you get your own things in order

All I have to see are the pictures on Al Jezeera and other news outlets, to see how women are trated in muslim countries.

If the gentleman from Pakistan wants to generalize about the west...I will provide the same for the muslim countries!!

That's all right ... my English isn't perfect too .


It all depends on a person and cultural traditions of countries.



It is not really common in Russia ( and we use to be Godless Nation ( back to USSR times) not really religious nowdays, as well .... So i would say Religion doesn't have nothing to do with sexual upbringing ......... it is all about cultural traditions.

I think thats a good point

Spirits! He doesn't speak English very well ... and you trying to accuse him in how he generalize?

So the policy "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" is going strong in USA (SOME American citizens)

I'm sick and tired of you being so verbaly brutal in accusation of foreigners of ... what they TRYING to say.

One more time ... if you do not understand the meaning ... the thought .... ask!

Miscommunication is a Global Evil which leads to Wars and Hate.

Shame

I have many Muslim married friends who both work and both share the domestic chores, And are totaly in love i wish i had what they had

I am not having difficulty understanding him!! He is saying non-muslim women and men have no morals......I am saying that marriage doesn't absolve a person of morals!! I simply look at how women must present themselves..all covered up in public...while he presents himself with a open neck shirt( see what a man I am!!). After marriage..a woman is "owned " by her husband in muslim countries.

This muslim insinuates that non-muslim countries are where men and women are cavalier in regards to sex!!

We have in America, a religion known as the Black Muslims...headed by Farakaan! (He may have retired). It is not unusual to see one of these muslims to have a child out of wedlock. Having worked in an emergency room in Selma Alabama., I can say this with certainty.

My point to him and you is...that muslims have sex outside of marriage also...

But are they in a muslim controlled society?? Like Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan?? There are exceptions to every rule. But in a muslim dominated society, a womans sexual destiny is in the hands of her husband.....not hers like in western society.

I am talking laws here....not attutudes. Yes men in most countries, abuse women on different levels...but they don't have the backing of their religious leaders and lawmakers. But they do...in Muslim countries

And how many men in the World have children out of wedlock?
and why are you so worry about THEIR cultural traditions? .... Are you able to see them as a Common people with a heart and normal human feelings despite their nationality? What do you know about muslim Culture?

This muslim insinuates that non-muslim countries are where men and women are cavalier in regards to sex!!

He doesn't insinuates NOTHING He merely asks a QUESTION

Pilipala.

I think it all depends where because that would probably never happen with Muslim couples in my country.

It was the OP who brought the question of religion as opposed to nationalism., when he compared muslim to european and american.



I see muslims probably the same way you do. But when they question the morality of my(non-muslim) people...that allows me to question their morality!! I think fair is fair.


This isn't a question of how many men or women have children outsude of marriage. it's about whether muslims are "holier than thou" as he implied...no stated, in his opening question?? It was he that brought up the whole issue.

Why am I being blasted for answering him?? Is he unable to answer for himself?? He compared muslim with western values. I am comparing western values with muslim

One more time ... I hope you will understand this time

He doesn't compare anything all he asks What is our opinion on having sex before marriage .... and if ( for those who are religious) is it approriate to have sex before marriage for those who believe in God.

All he asks is OUR OPINION

Ship, take a deep breath ... and have a cup of coffee or a tea .... I'm going to do the same ...Right this minute

Dear Sir,
Always see majorty muslim people attitued , u give example that not good muslim . A real muslim never do sex before marry or after marry excpet wife. Try to understand my point . i am taking about majorty pepole attitude. IN eroupen and american culture couple first deleiver babies and then do marry.

u aslo think about ratio of suceesful marry life in muslim families and non muslims families.

***i wanna know y non muslim girls and boyslike eroupe or usa donto hasitate sex before marry .

This is not a comparison????


***they all know its a big sin in all religions.


This is not judgemental???


***plzz serious answers.

Have I not given him my serious answers???



you are reading what your liberal mind wants!! I am taking him ver batim