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My America

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bajanblue
Speightstown, Saint Peter Barbados
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:27 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
Is there something in the water in Barbados that makes people sane and tolerant? It is worrying....if this caught on all our best disputes would fall flat - drowned in the milk of human kindness


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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:29 AM CST
Jesus' answer when asked which commandment is most important:

"there are only two..."

"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind."

and

"You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

Don't think that because I don't believe, I don't know the Bible.
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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:29 AM CST
Konigsberg wrote:
Actually .... If i were at court room ( in whatever situation) I would feel offended by seeing those 10 commandments on the Wall .... I am not RELIGIOUS. And why is it I have to be judged by judge who uses 10 commandments in his Court room?
Gnome please leave Shakespeare's name out of this topic. He deserves a better place to be mentioned in.


Please explain why the WORDS contained in the ten commadments are offensive to you.
I would want my judge to be well read.

Why not Shakspeare? Just can't think of a good quote off the top of my head. He surely had thoughts on justice, and had a way with words.
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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:35 AM CST
"We are all so busy talking, full of our opinions and our rights.

Perhaps if we started to listen, and think of our responsibilities?"

Good idea- no rights without resposibility.


I think mankind has a need or desire to have a core belief, something larger than ourselves to rely on. We have been disillusioned by our forbear's beliefs and have been looking for a replacement. Personally I don't think thier beliefs were wrong it was just that they were abused by a few people corrupted by power.

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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:37 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
Is there something in the water in Barbados that makes people sane and tolerant? It is worrying....if this caught on all our best disputes would fall flat - drowned in the milk of human kindness


And then the forums would dry up
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OH NO!
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nomindgames
Painesville, Ohio USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:38 AM CST
Not a subject I have ever given much thought too,shame on me I quess.I just always thought that the country was founded by so called Christian people.Like God being printed on money,thepledge of alligance mentioning God.What about patriotic song,God Bless America?Why swear on a bible in court?I'm confused thinking about this now.Maybe the church and stae separation was not about God.It was to allow anyone to worship in any doctrine they choose.There is a diference between Beleiving in God and religion. An ideadunno
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:42 AM CST
wanderinggnome wrote:
And then the forums would dry up


OH NO!


Hang on!! I forgot about Indy! The forums are safe! rolling on the floor laughing
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:42 AM CST
nomindgames wrote:
Not a subject I have ever given much thought too,shame on me I quess.I just always thought that the country was founded by so called Christian people.Like God being printed on money,thepledge of alligance mentioning God.What about patriotic song,God Bless America?Why swear on a bible in court?I'm confused thinking about this now.Maybe the church and stae separation was not about God.It was to allow anyone to worship in any doctrine they choose.There is a diference between Beleiving in God and religion. An idea


The printing on the money, the pledge and the songs came AFTER the constitution and the declaration of independance.

And we don't swear on a Bible in court any more.

But the separation of Church and state is what it's al about, but it is twisted by such things as displaying the ten commandments.

Isn't that offensive to the beliefs of a Hindi? THAT"S the point I've been making. If you're going to separate church and state, you have to do it across the board, not make eceptions for the biblical god.
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Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:44 AM CST
wanderinggnome wrote:
I think you are REALLY stretching the intent of the costitution. I can't say 'God' without violating someone's rights? That amounts to 'Prior Restraint'- also unconstitutional.

I fail to see how the display of the 10 commandments can be offensive, if one READS the words. Would Shakespere's words be offensive, Ghandi's, Kennedy's, Darrow's?

Bear in mind this was not a display of the entire set of Mosaic law, just a fundamental stating of one of the foundations of western jurisprudence.

I find it amusing that this display excites such controversy, while the words on the facade of the Supreme Court don't seem to ellicit much comment.

Why does it offend someone with no beliefs to hear that others have beliefs?
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tryandcatchme72
corning USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:46 AM CST
Just a question here, I would like to know why is it when we swear in a President or any govenment official that gets sworn in Do the say So help me God. Just a question?
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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:47 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Do you really think that the God mentioned in this is NOT the biblical god?

NO
In "A GOD" woul be politically correct if you want to get specific.

Of course it doesn't offend you, you believe in the biblical god.

Tell me you wouldn't be offended if it said "In RA we trust"
If you say "in Ra I trust" no problem.
Please, gnome,.

And Being a believer, you'd know that the New Testament did away with Mosac Law.
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Jesus did away with the 10 commandments if you've ever actually read the bible and made just two.
yes

And it's not the WORDS that offend, it's the origion of those words.

Why not the Q'ran or the Eddas on display instead?
Am not familiar if there is an applicable quote in them to compare. The fact is the 10 commandments ARE widely recognized and accepted as a basis for Western jurisprudence.

And it's not that those who believe are offended by those that do. It's anther example of religious vieews being forced.

I think you would be very weak minded if seeing a display of th 10 commandments intimidated your beliefs.
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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:51 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Jesus' answer when asked which commandment is most important:

"there are only two..."

"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind."

and

"You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

Don't think that because I don't believe, I don't know the Bible.


Do you find these commandments offensive?
dunno

Your knowledge of scripture demonstrates that you are intent on controversy over conversation.
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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:56 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
The printing on the money, the pledge and the songs came AFTER the constitution and the declaration of independance.

And we don't swear on a Bible in court any more.

But the separation of Church and state is what it's al about, but it is twisted by such things as displaying the ten commandments.

Isn't that offensive to the beliefs of a Hindi? THAT"S the point I've been making. If you're going to separate church and state, you have to do it across the board, not make eceptions for the biblical god.


At some point we have to accept certain standards. By existing in a society we have to sacrifice a portion of our individuality to the society, otherwise we would have chaos.
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:58 AM CST
wanderinggnome wrote:
Do you find these commandments offensive?


Your knowledge of scripture demonstrates that you are intent on controversy over conversation.


No, you're just proving once again you think that YOUR beliefs are the RIGHT beliefs, which I find tiring.

You can't seem to grasp the meaning of Freedom from/of/for/with Religion what so ever.

It has to be across the board for it to be right. Apply it to all religions. This includes those who's origions are from the bible.

Which is what I've been saying all along. It's simple really.
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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 8:58 AM CST
tryandcatchme72 wrote:
Just a question here, I would like to know why is it when we swear in a President or any govenment official that gets sworn in Do the say So help me God. Just a question?


I think it has become an option. I believe it is acceptable ( though not politically expediant) to simply state "So help me"
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 9:02 AM CST
wanderinggnome wrote:
At some point we have to accept certain standards. By existing in a society we have to sacrifice a portion of our individuality to the society, otherwise we would have chaos.


Then why have individuality at all?

Isn't the greatest individuality "beliefs"? (outside of race)

Religious freedom isn't religious freedom unless it is ALL religions that we are free to choose or deny.
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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 9:05 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
No, you're just proving once again you think that YOUR beliefs are the RIGHT beliefs, which I find tiring.

You can't seem to grasp the meaning of Freedom from/of/for/with Religion what so ever.

It has to be across the board for it to be right. Apply it to all religions. This includes those who's origions are from the bible.

Which is what I've been saying all along. It's simple really.


Of course I think I am right, otherwise why take the time to state my opinion?

I think I may understand the meaning of Freedom better than many, and it's responsibilies. Also since you are big on exact wording, the constitution does not say freedom FROM religion.

I think an across the board rule would mean if you are in MY courtroom you see the 10 commandments, If I'm in your courtroom I see Dr. Suess.
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wanderinggnome
Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 9:06 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Then why have individuality at all?

Isn't the greatest individuality "beliefs"? (outside of race)

Religious freedom isn't religious freedom unless it is ALL religions that we are free to choose or deny.


Then choose or deny...... and let everyone else do so. scold
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 9:09 AM CST
wanderinggnome wrote:
Of course I think I am right, otherwise why take the time to state my opinion?

I think I may understand the meaning of Freedom better than many, and it's responsibilies. Also since you are big on exact wording, the constitution does not say freedom FROM religion.

I think an across the board rule would mean if you are in MY courtroom you see the 10 commandments, If I'm in your courtroom I see Dr. Suess.


And there you have once again revealed your game...

When you run out of intelligent thought, you resort to insult.

Freedom from/of/with/around religion sn't even in the constitution, it's in the bill of rights...two separate documents.

take an American history class and brush up a bit.
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 26, 2008, 9:11 AM CST
wanderinggnome wrote:
Then choose or deny...... and let everyone else do so.


you're reinforcing my point, g. Why put the biblical god in anything government related if you yourself believe that everyone can choose or deny?
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