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My America




j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 8:42 PM CST
not saying her opnion of politicians is wrong, just her historical fact. The country was not founded on the freedom of religion.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 8:49 PM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
not saying her opnion of politicians is wrong, just her historical fact. The country was not founded on the freedom of religion.

Freedom of religion is the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance. It is generally recognized to also include the freedom to change religion or to not follow any religion. Freedom of religion is considered by many in many nations and people to be a fundamental human right. [1]

In a country with a state religion freedom of religion is generally considered to mean that the government permits religious practices of other sects besides the state religion, and does not persecute believers in other faiths.

Today there are concerns about the persecution of religious minorities in the Muslim world and in some Communist states such as China and North Korea, as well as other forms of intolerance in other countries, for example banning the wearing of prominent religious articles such as the Muslim veil in some contexts in European countries. [2] Freedom of religion as a legal concept is related to, but not identical with, religious toleration, separation of church and state, or laïcité (a secular state).
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drivenbysound
Poplar Bluff, Missouri USA
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 8:57 PM CST
HJFinAZ wrote:
I wonder what our motto, "In God We Trust" is supposed to mean. I wonder what the founders of this great country really meant?


You wonder what the founders of this great country really meant?

Ask the Native Americans.
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thewall2
montreal, Quebec Canada
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 8:58 PM CST
I've always gotten along pretty well with AMERICANS,but then again I'VE ALSO got family in Connecticut,Jersey,and NEW YORK.wave
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Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:00 PM CST
thewall2 wrote:
I've always gotten along pretty well with AMERICANS,but then again I'VE ALSO got family in Connecticut,Jersey,and NEW YORK.

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Freeya
Mykonos, South Aegean Greece
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:01 PM CST
i do not know much about this subject so i will keep my oppinion brief:

What's wrong to having the 10 commandments in your court (i mean ethically, spirit-of-the-law-wise)?
Isnt the whole western legal system based on the judaic ancient set of law - 10 commandments included?
Hence, arent the 10 com. one of the oldest legal documents, on which the whole system was initially based?
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:08 PM CST
drivenbysound wrote:
You wonder what the founders of this great country really meant?

Ask the Native Americans.



We have always called it Turtle Island...which encompasses North America...

Where Is Turtle Island?

The name "Turtle Island" comes from a common Native American legend and is their name for the North American continent. The story tells us that North America is perched on the back of a very large tortoise who has volunteered its shell as a home for the land animals.

Who is Turtle Island?

Though you may not realize it, probably right under your feet! Turtle Island is the name that several native American tribes gave to the North American Continent. In their lore, the earth was at one time all water. The land animals had no place to live until a giant tortoise arose from the water and offered its shell as a home for these creatures. Thus, with North America perched on the back of this large turtle we need to treat our "island" home with honor and respect.




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thewall2
montreal, Quebec Canada
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:10 PM CST

Well,not immediate family,but I have cousins, aunts, and uncles in the USA.

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Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:17 PM CST
Freeya wrote:
i do not know much about this subject so i will keep my oppinion brief:

What's wrong to having the 10 commandments in your court (i mean ethically, spirit-of-the-law-wise)?
Isnt the whole western legal system based on the judaic ancient set of law - 10 commandments included?
Hence, arent the 10 com. one of the oldest legal documents, on which the whole system was initially based?

to the largest population there is nothing wrong with it, that is why I posted this, it is a right and wrong issue but only in the eyes of a believer, in my opinion
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:21 PM CST
Freeya wrote:
i do not know much about this subject so i will keep my oppinion brief:

What's wrong to having the 10 commandments in your court (i mean ethically, spirit-of-the-law-wise)?
Isnt the whole western legal system based on the judaic ancient set of law - 10 commandments included?
Hence, arent the 10 com. one of the oldest legal documents, on which the whole system was initially based?


Todays american legal rights are identical to those of England. The Constitution is mostly based on England's (i think, but I'll check) rights.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:24 PM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Todays american legal rights are identical to those of England. The Constitution is mostly based on England's (i think, but I'll check) rights.

check all you like the answer is NOlips
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jbibiza
Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:26 PM CST
Personally I feel it was correct to remove him. Look at what is happening in the middle east where there is no separation of church and country... you have religious police usurping the laws of the country and women are being accused of witchcraft and sentenced to die... children are being executed against the country's laws.

These are items that have been recently posted on threads here at CS. To allow someone to go against the laws of the country in order to practice their personal religious beliefs in the court room scares the hell out of me and I'm glad they threw him out.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:30 PM CST
jbibiza wrote:
Personally I feel it was correct to remove him. Look at what is happening in the middle east where there is no separation of church and country... you have religious police usurping the laws of the country and women are being accused of witchcraft and sentenced to die... children are being executed against the country's laws.

These are items that have been recently posted on threads here at CS. To allow someone to go against the laws of the country in order to practice their personal religious beliefs in the court room scares the hell out of me and I'm glad they threw him out.

Those cannot be religious police, they may proclaim to be but they are not acting on what My GOD intended them to do, they are greedy and evil people please do not blame religion on mans own evil mind and ways, thank youlips
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drivenbysound
Poplar Bluff, Missouri USA
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:32 PM CST
jbibiza wrote:
Personally I feel it was correct to remove him. Look at what is happening in the middle east where there is no separation of church and country... you have religious police usurping the laws of the country and women are being accused of witchcraft and sentenced to die... children are being executed against the country's laws.

These are items that have been recently posted on threads here at CS. To allow someone to go against the laws of the country in order to practice their personal religious beliefs in the court room scares the hell out of me and I'm glad they threw him out.


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jbibiza
Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:50 PM CST
The reality is that there are only 3 commandments that make any sense in our society and in my opinion the 10 commandments have no place in the court room as these 3 items are well covered by law.


1. You shall have no other gods before me. Goes against the constitution and religious freedom

2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. Goes against the constitution and religious freedom

3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. If we tried to enforce this everyone would be in jail

4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
If we tried to enforce this everyone would be in jail


5. Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you. Some parents don't deserve to be honored

6. You shall not murder. Ok, I agree with this one

7. You shall not commit adultery. The biblical meaning of adultery is no man shall have intercourse with a married woman other then her husband, what about the other way around?

8. You shall not steal. Ok, I agree with this one

9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. Ok, I agree with this one

10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s."
Again everyone would be in jail, keeping up with the Jones' has become a way of life
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Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 9:57 PM CST
There are degrees and levels of laws, first degree murder second degree murder third degree murder and so on as the law goes you cannot expect to have these different levels and a HUMAN judge base it like he/she were a computer it does not work like that it is just unrealistic to believe that a HUMAN is going to sit the bench and have absolutely no feelings no beliefs and GOD forbid bring in moral and ethical beliefs just how are we supposed to judge then I wonder? as a human, in MY opinion I want someone who has the beliefs of what is right and what is wrong and I think anyone who has read this post knows where I stand on what I think is right and wrong, thank you.lips
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 10:06 PM CST
irishlass45 wrote:
There are degrees and levels of laws, first degree murder second degree murder third degree murder and so on as the law goes you cannot expect to have these different levels and a HUMAN judge base it like he/she were a computer it does not work like that it is just unrealistic to believe that a HUMAN is going to sit the bench and have absolutely no feelings no beliefs and GOD forbid bring in moral and ethical beliefs just how are we supposed to judge then I wonder? as a human, in MY opinion I want someone who has the beliefs of what is right and what is wrong and I think anyone who has read this post knows where I stand on what I think is right and wrong, thank you.


In law there are not suppose to be any beliefs....That's why they say justice is blind....the decisions judges and juries make have to be based soley on facts, evidence and it's application to the law itself free from an bias...if someone based guilt or innocence on religious views it would be no better than someone basing guilt or innocence on a bias such as race etc....The law is to be applied evenly and independently of moral conviction....wine
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jbibiza
Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 10:07 PM CST
irishlass45 wrote:
There are degrees and levels of laws, first degree murder second degree murder third degree murder and so on as the law goes you cannot expect to have these different levels and a HUMAN judge base it like he/she were a computer it does not work like that it is just unrealistic to believe that a HUMAN is going to sit the bench and have absolutely no feelings no beliefs and GOD forbid bring in moral and ethical beliefs just how are we supposed to judge then I wonder? as a human, in MY opinion I want someone who has the beliefs of what is right and what is wrong and I think anyone who has read this post knows where I stand on what I think is right and wrong, thank you.



I think a person can be very ethical and human without religion, I don't think that people should be judged by a set of standards that is prejudicial to others beliefs and that go against the laws of the state or country. In Christianity they still can't agree on what day is actually the sabbath so how is anyone supposed to keep it holy?

Another one where we just have to agree to disagree, but you know I luv ya! hug
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drivenbysound
Poplar Bluff, Missouri USA
Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 10:08 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
In law there are not suppose to be any beliefs....That's why they say justice is blind....the decisions judges and juries make have to be based soley on facts, evidence and it's application to the law itself free from an bias...if someone based guilt or innocence on religious views it would be no better than someone basing guilt or innocence on a bias such as race etc....The law is to be applied evenly and independently of moral conviction....


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Posted: Mar 24, 2008, 10:11 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
In law there are not suppose to be any beliefs....That's why they say justice is blind....the decisions judges and juries make have to be based soley on facts, evidence and it's application to the law itself free from an bias...if someone based guilt or innocence on religious views it would be no better than someone basing guilt or innocence on a bias such as race etc....The law is to be applied evenly and independently of moral conviction....

IN AN IDEAL WORLD that would be great awesome but the fact is is we don't have that, they are words, sorry I disagree that that will ever happen, but thanks for you commentslips
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