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zambe geneva, Geneve Switzerland
lusciousmile: He thinks all black people should stay together and insults the rest of the white people.

I don't like unsolicited, racist mail.

Shame.
Mano.


did i ask you to do that? this forum was open by sombody else not me and there were soo many people talked using thier Free opinions be fore me. i saw the one who start this forum was asked if he is from Germany.



lusciousmile Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
zambe: did i ask you to do that? this forum was open by sombody else not me and there were soo many people talked using thier Free opinions be fore me. i saw the one who start this forum was asked if he is from Germany.



Maybe i misunderstood you and should send it to Smoky for a translation for the rest of the us.

Oh, you are such a nice man, yes?

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zambe geneva, Geneve Switzerland
lusciousmile: It is wrong to approach women one doesn't know, like there's a relationship. We are not wild animals in the jungle. My skin colour is of no link to any random african's blood.

When you write/talk to any stranger, you start with a 'hello' or face the wrath of the same if not higher level of insolence.

Courtesy costs nothing.
lady please don't try to make case here, i never ask you love or encourage you to insult innocents people you the one who start using F words to me with no reason. I AM FAR from that. so if you have story to make that is up to you. look at my second comment in this thread and what i told Ms smocky, but if sombody have problems in his /her mind is up to the thinker.



zambe geneva, Geneve Switzerland
Conrad73: I'd say you're in REALLY DEEP POOP
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shipoker55 St. Petersburg, Florida USA
I think one of the major problems with Africa is Greed!! To many tribal leaders become dictators and squander all the money that is sent in the form of foreign aid. This money ends up in the pockets of despot kings, warlords and generals. The fields and the tables remain empty!!


Just my opinion, of course!professor



shipoker55 St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Too....even!!doh



foreveryoung1 cartagena, Murcia Spain
shipoker55: I think one of the major problems with Africa is Greed!! To many tribal leaders become dictators and squander all the money that is sent in the form of foreign aid. This money ends up in the pockets of despot kings, warlords and generals. The fields and the tables remain empty!!Just my opinion, of course!


agree totally

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zambe geneva, Geneve Switzerland
foreveryoung1: agree totally
My dear sister please read the books "The White Man's Burden” by William Easterly. "The Trouble with- Africa" by Robert Calderisi. "The Lords of Poverty The Power, Prestige, and Corruption of the International Aid Business". by Graham Hancockhandshake all are very new and good books, infact the book the white man's Burden has won soo many awards and recognition around the world, it has been chosen as the book of the year twice by the Washington post. thank you
kj12345 Taipei, Taipei Taiwan
newnkeng: i think the african peoples proplem is not food becaused if u educated them there can fight for themselve just imagine if there is no food aid to africa what will happen to the people but if there are educated the can fight for themselves


Three hundred years ago, such problems didn't exist. Conflicts and corruption around the world - Africa, the middle east, southeast Asia, etc. - all stem from European nations and the US meddling and imposing their will on such nations. Whenever a country starts talking about its own "national interests", it's inevitably done to the detriment of at least one other nation.

And as for food, there's enough to go around. The issue is greed of international markets and traders, not availability or amounts.
jbibiza Ibiza, Islas Baleares Spain
Aries01: My hat off to you for doing that kind of work... ... ...


Hi Aries,

I posted about this once before when there was a discussion about problems around the world and how money given to charities rarely goes where it should. We created our own and know that every penny we raise goes directly to helping kids in Cambodia. The orphanage has ten kids living there, it only costs 250 euros per child per year to give them 3 square meals a day, medical and dental care, an education and a home where they have their own space and a loving environment.

For every euro we spend on art supplies for the kids they earn over 10 euros, which is an amazing daily income there, as I said... their parents don't earn that much money.

We help with airfares and medical supplies for doctors from all over Europe who volunteer a month of their time and have never been in a position that we didn't have doctors wanting to go.

What we do is really simple and doesn't take much time. One man who owns a restaurant adds a .50 cent charge to each meal during the tourist season and made 10,000 euros from this last summer... I do a fund raiser and get several bands and liquor companies to donate time and product as well as local business's to donate prizes for a raffle and usually make about 6,000 to 7,000 euros, and several other people are doing bring and buy sales or sponsoring a child for a year.

We're not helping millions, but there are 10 kids safe and off the streets, 60 kids making an income that allows them to help their families and an average of 100 people a month getting medical care that couldn't afford it on their own.

We have hired local people to run the orphanage and have student volunteers that help out. On an average each of us spends may 30 to 40 hours a year on this project... as you can see, it doesn't take a lot, just a few people who care.



zambe geneva, Geneve Switzerland
kj12345: Three hundred years ago, such problems didn't exist. Conflicts and corruption around the world - Africa, the middle east, southeast Asia, etc. - all stem from European nations and the US meddling and imposing their will on such nations. Whenever a country starts talking about its own "national interests", it's inevitably done to the detriment of at least one other nation.

And as for food, there's enough to go around. The issue is greed of international markets and traders, not availability or amounts.
It's really funny to know that the west have such democracy which does not allow anyone to intervene on anyone’s affairs even your child, you can’t involve on her or his things and you can’t force him to do anything. But the same west who wrote and obey these lows gave themselves the right to go out of their borders and force other nations to do things.

I don't think the 2nd and 3rd world are on need of anything call Aid or HELL- p, but they are on need of THIER FULL RIGHT.
smoky Unterland, Zrich Switzerland
lusciousmile: It is wrong to approach women one doesn't know, like there's a relationship. We are not wild animals in the jungle. My skin colour is of no link to any random african's blood.

When you write/talk to any stranger, you start with a 'hello' or face the wrath of the same if not higher level of insolence.

Courtesy costs nothing.


And here is a Lady who proves that one cannot generalise using Skin Colour. BEHAVIOUR and the ability (or an attempt) to converse rationally is the basis of moving forward.

wave Hi Lush ... I hope you dont mind me using your post. Sure, you and I have had our arguments/disagreements, even locked threads, over issues similar to this - and we managed to move forward, something I sincerely hope can happen here too?cheers
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
kj12345: Three hundred years ago, such problems didn't exist. Conflicts and corruption around the world - Africa, the middle east, southeast Asia, etc. - all stem from European nations and the US meddling and imposing their will on such nations. Whenever a country starts talking about its own "national interests", it's inevitably done to the detriment of at least one other nation.

And as for food, there's enough to go around. The issue is greed of international markets and traders, not availability or amounts.
Wonder what you're going to say when you become the de facto Province of the People's Republic Of China and will be renamed to Formosa again.
Better look out for the Nothern Colonialism,not toward the West.
Good luck,Sunshinerolling on the floor laughing
kj12345 Taipei, Taipei Taiwan
Conrad73: Wonder what you're going to say when you become the de facto Province of the People's Republic Of China and will be renamed to Formosa again.
Better look out for the Nothern Colonialism,not toward the West.
Good luck,Sunshine


Your ignorance is astounding. You should be ashamed of it, yet instead seem proud.

Communism spread in China because of the Boxer Rebellion - you know, when European countries treated China the way the US treated Cuba before Castro? Like their own private playground to make money in?

Or were you wilfully unaware of this?
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
zambe: It's really funny to know that the west have such democracy which does not allow anyone to intervene on anyone’s affairs even your child, you can’t involve on her or his things and you can’t force him to do anything. But the same west who wrote and obey these lows gave themselves the right to go out of their borders and force other nations to do things.

I don't think the 2nd and 3rd world are on need of anything call Aid or HELL- p, but they are on need of THIER FULL RIGHT.
It is even funnier,for you living in my Country with those "perfumed" Attitudes.

Go tell your Leaders about your Rights,don't go crying somewhere else.
It's them that are giving you a RAW DEAL.
They,after all have Control of your Country,not Berne,Brussels or London.
They decide with whom to do their Dirty Business with on your backs.
Go look in the Mirror if you want to blame someone,for not acting.
Then throw those Scoundrels out.
And if the new Set behaves the same way,kick them in their Teeth as well.cool
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
kj12345: Your ignorance is astounding. You should be ashamed of it, yet instead seem proud.

Communism spread in China because of the Boxer Rebellion - you know, when European countries treated China the way the US treated Cuba before Castro? Like their own private playground to make money in?

Or were you wilfully unaware of this?
How stupid can you get??
There is a near 50 year spread between the Boxer Rebellion and the Communist takeover.

BTW,the Chinese Communist Party was founded in AD 1921.

Shame on you
doh doh doh doh doh doh doh doh doh
smoky Unterland, Zrich Switzerland
This for ZAMBE.......Nein, I am only the daughter of a dead politician, from the party that opposed the White Regime of SA.

Government leaders should not be squandering their time on University studies - they get free honoury degrees anyway, and will never earn more than they are presently earning!

If the Education Dept of SA is getting the biggest share of the budget - why is it in such a mess, with their teachers regularly going on strike for higher wages? Why can matriculants not even receive their Certificates? (I tried for a 2yrs to "find" my sons certificate, with no success - due to total departmental confusion and chaos).

There are 11 Official languages in SA - Not enough schools/teachers for the present chaos - how will they manage to teach in 11 languages, PLUS the extra 2 required for a Pass mark? Presently they do not even have any qualified teachers of Zulu, dominant language of only ONE province.

There were no "predecessors" of Jan van Riebeek - he`s the guy that brought the settlers there, in 1652. Only Vasco de Gama planted a flag on a beach before that.

Only 13% were paying taxes to provide themselves with "services"they expected from the Govt. As a conquered nation I do believe there was no onus on providing this for the masses, in those days. Unlike America, that government did not issue Pox infested blankets to the indigenous population, instead they allowed it to grow - maybe hoping that it could in some way learn to take care of its own? I wasn`t there so am only guessing.

When the Black government took control in 1994, the entire population stood at about 26million. With the pandemic of AIDS, and the exodus of the Whites, how has it managed to grow to 47m? I do know that Free ID`s were issued to migrants from northern countries to swell the voting public in the ANC`s favour.... perhaps they would do better to control their borders?

There now exists, contrary to Thabo M`Beki`s speech "A small island of wealthy Blacks surrounded by a sea of Black poverty". The only whites left there now are either pensioners or whites with no overseas connections to help them leave. There are no "freaky and racist European loyals" - only practical folk who ponder the wisdom of electing a new president who faces legal charges of Money Laundering/Embezlement/Bribery & Corruption?.. and who was recently on trial for rape?

Who does not try tax avoidance?.. it is perfectly legal. However, Tax Evasion is another story - hence the "under-the-counter" bribes the government officials accept - and deposit in their Swiss bank accounts - I know, because prior to my one son leaving SA for greener pastures, he was requested to do just this - even though it was no guarantee that his product would be used in the stadium building for the 2010 Soccer.

My good man - you yourself mentioned the BEE (Black Empowerment Equity) that exists to prohibits a white person from benefitting from any form of business tender/government contract/opportunity. Where does greediness and supremacy come into this story now?

The black SA men are known to be opposed to any form of Hard Work - so their wives have told me.
They rather prefer to sit in the shade, smoke ganja, and procreate with passing ladies. Or idle away hours in a Shebeen.

I agree with you that SA is not in the top ten of Violent countries - it now equals Brazil, and is presently running at about 2nd in the world. I do know it bypassed Chicago a few years ago.

You may notice that I have covered each topic you raised. Now instead of an hysterical response, if you do reply, try and stick to pertinent points, and maybe you and I can save Africa?cheers

One of the routes to success - is to not keep on harking back to history - but to move forward. What next would be a good question to ask?cheers



zambe geneva, Geneve Switzerland
Conrad73: It is even funnier,for you living in my Country with those "perfumed" Attitudes.

Go tell your Leaders about your Rights,don't go crying somewhere else.
It's them that are giving you a RAW DEAL.
They,after all have Control of your Country,not Berne,Brussels or London.
They decide with whom to do their Dirty Business with on your backs.
Go look in the Mirror if you want to blame someone,for not acting.
Then throw those Scoundrels out.
And if the new Set behaves the same way,kick them in their Teeth as well.

lol seem like Mr Conrad you are so serious on Business Probably is because the Taiwanie man he is selling you brand new ideas with very high price. But anyway I have to give your beautiful country credit and tell you here what I use to tell many people I meet face to face, that Switzerland is the best country I ever visit.

however this is not because I am scaring that you are going deport me because I am here legally and for sure there are Swiss people who are in my country and the day I was flying here from my country the plan was full and if I am right I was the only dark skin person in that plan, but the rests was whites probably from Swiss.

But because it's the truth I know. I have been in soo many countries that I had high expectation that their behaviour will be much better because they went and are still going to all over the world for free,

But I found out that Switzerland which never been in any of our countries she is more welcoming people from other countries than those who have being colonized the world in the last 500 years.

People in Switzerland are more welcome and they are more open than the big colonials whom today they become financial masters just because of what they accumulate from the third world.

I know that you scare of my words so much, and you try your best for me to be Kicked out of this place but I have tell you that I have no word if we come to the point of hospitality in your country but thanks. i talk the truth with everyone everyway and everytime, i don't care who they are or where i am so here you won over me.



lusciousmile Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
smoky: And here is a Lady who proves that one cannot generalise using Skin Colour. BEHAVIOUR and the ability (or an attempt) to converse rationally is the basis of moving forward.

Hi Lush ... I hope you dont mind me using your post. Sure, you and I have had our arguments/disagreements, even locked threads, over issues similar to this - and we managed to move forward, something I sincerely hope can happen here too?



Oh yes! I have nothing but admiration and respect for you mama Smoky. Moving forward has made that possible. I'll let you deal with the bad boys, including Mugabe ( i wish hahaha). professor


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Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
zambe: lol seem like Mr Conrad you are so serious on Business Probably is because the Taiwanie man he is selling you brand new ideas with very high price. But anyway I have to give your beautiful country credit and tell you here what I use to tell many people I meet face to face, that Switzerland is the best country I ever visit.

however this is not because I am scaring that you are going deport me because I am here legally and for sure there are Swiss people who are in my country and the day I was flying here from my country the plan was full and if I am right I was the only dark skin person in that plan, but the rests was whites probably from Swiss.

But because it's the truth I know. I have been in soo many countries that I had high expectation that their behaviour will be much better because they went and are still going to all over the world for free,

But I found out that Switzerland which never been in any of our countries she is more welcoming people from other countries than those who have being colonized the world in the last 500 years.

People in Switzerland are more welcome and they are more open than the big colonials whom today they become financial masters just because of what they accumulate from the third world.

I know that you scare of my words so much, and you try your best for me to be Kicked out of this place but I have tell you that I have no word if we come to the point of hospitality in your country but thanks. i talk the truth with everyone everyway and everytime, i don't care who they are or where i am so here you won over me.
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