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quote=sexophone]I agree to a lot of the points on your post and there are times when Africans have said they prefer the colonial era to the thieving leaders that they have now, .. i once said that too but on second thought, these thieves are a deliberate product of western influence.

For example, most colonial govts on exit forced their loyal side-kicks on us and it still happens today, especially regarding what Mark Thatcher tried to do to Equatorial Guinea a fews years ago, .. all in the name of Oil.

Of course the best answer is for colonization never to have happened. We have to live with what we have done and find a way to move forward.

I suspect if we managed to remove any leader who was exploiting his country his replacement would be much the same. A black African is not the same as a black American or a black Englishman.

I'm not that sophisticated, it's beyond my skills to deal with, and having read the whole forum, some people who want to do something are too emotionally involved to be of any realistic help.

We need to teach every man to love his neighbour.

I wish the world luck.

Ms smocky I don’t know what name you will be happy for me to call you, but whatever I will put here, you have to know that respect to your age is my first worry. I showed you what happened and still happening or correct me if I am wrong!!!! don’t just run and say I hate white people, why shall i?

I am not tired of white people please don’t get me wrong. i was talking about bigot, some people who don’t care about anyone but themselves, people who are ready to abuse anyone for their own gains.

people who told themselves that what is theirs is theirs and what belong to others, they can talk, and that is not only whites but also u can found africans who are in that chapter.

Concern to what seem like you tried to raid over the past because we or I never did anything in life, I am very proud to tell you that if I am with guys of my age I always come out and tell them who I am.

I never met any guy who went trough such hard life like I did, and in the same time I never saw a guy like me who archived what I did in life, never. i never fought with anyone physically, i never stole, i never sold drugs, i never use it, i never even touch it, i never sold myself, i travel to soo many countries with my own money. i work day and night so i can be financially free from any one.

I suffered in most of my life and the was nobody for me but thanks to god I am very proud of who I am.

I achieved soo much, soo much in soo many ways, very few who are like me and can compare themselves to me. this is not to show you that I am arrogant but to show you that I never stand over anybody’s shoulder. and I believe that there are still more waiting for me in life. but i would like to ask you why i would like not build these things? why? do you think i am not? i never been allowed by my ex slave master? i would like to do those things but my ways has been blocked by thousands of barriers

A SPEECH BY THE NEWLY ELECTED LEADER OF AFRICA - HRH QUEEN SMOKY.

Let us be clear what our priorities are in the new and glorious Era of Change.

They are not the discredited priorities of the former leader, with his meaningless and empty slogan "Education, Education, Educaton".

No, our priority, Comrades, is "Schools, Schools, Schools".

Let me be frank about it. Far too many of our African schools are failing our nation`s children. thanks to 14 years of wasteful teacher strikes and under attendance by pupils, under such M`Beki pygmies as the blundering toady Minister of Education (cant remember his name I have too many ministers to worry about and salaries to pay).

It is now time for firm action ageinst all those schools which are undermining the brilliance of our African children.

They must be rooted out and where necesary razed to the ground, as an example to all the reactionary forces which threaten to destroy from within the march of African educational progress.

Comrades, in pursuing this policy we must be single-minded and ruthless.

If necessary, I will have no hesitation in closing down every school in the country.

I now wish to announce a second top priority in building the Age of Change - namely, the need to eradicate the cancer of obesity which, in the words of Comrade Zembe, poses a greater threat to the future of our planet than global warming.

In the new era, no one will be fat, including the highest in the land - and may I here cite as a example of backlsliding obesitism, the disgraceful spectacle of the hated reactionary aristocrat and lickspittle Comrade Trevor Emmanuel, former minister of Finance.

This absurd apparatchik of the former regime has grown fat in all senses of the word on the ill-gotten proceeds of his bourgeois petty fogging legality and his unscrupulous exploitation of his wretched suppliants.

Not content with the rich pickings of his parasitical profession, this overblown gourmand now has the audacity to demand that the people of Africa pay him a huge pension from the hard-earned fruits of their honest toil.

Let this elephantine blackmailer beware! there is no room for his like in the new lean, efficient Africa of the Age of Change.

I would have called Comrade Emmanuel a running dog, except that he is too fat to run anywhere.

Let us rather call him "wobbling dog", as he stumbles into obscurity and oblivion which are the just deserts of any enemy of the Black people of Africa.

Let no man, woman, child, animal, or country stand in the way of the glorious movement we envisage overtaking this, our glorious and free country, that our ancestors, in their innocent ignorance, have toiled for.

When we no longer have inferior white, or black, education, when our oil runs freely into our very own vehicles, when we drape the gold and diamonds of our country around the necks of our own women,then let the petty bourgoise of the world know - we, of our proud country, stand proudly and sing "n`Kosi Sikelelé" in any one of the eleven official languages of our country.

(Okay, I plaguerised this (with a few changes), from a copy of Rusty`s "Private Eye" magazine - but the gist is the same) - Well, politicians always have someone write their speeches and I havent yet reached the stage of having my own Speech Writer, although I do have a couple Praise Singers called Grand-children).

is not this is the mean of admire??????????

The ones I feel sorry for are the Inca/Mayan tribes of South America when the, was it the Spaniards? arrived there..... bringing diseases and killing them off, destroying their cities and culture.

And also, my heart bleeds for the North American Plains Indians .... decemated, and all their lands grabbed because of the gold, their buffalo slaughtered for their skins - Have you ever read "Bury my heart at Wounded Knee"? - and now the results of being forced into Reserves and fed alcohol, most of their babies suffered from FAS (foetal alcohol syndrome).

There is lots to cry about that happened in the past.

Can I remove my Cheek from my Tongue now? need it!

STOP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL OF YOU.

U TALK A LOT ABOUT MY CONTINENT AND MY COUNTRY, ALL WERE USELESS ARGUMENT.


STOP

What got your Undies in a Bunch?

Sorry hit the wrong button orr something.
ZAMBE I think you are the solution why dont you go same them from Europe...

Agree,they become week becoz of hunger and diseas,they need Viagra to develop the health

What problem?

There are several realities and to each, one philosophy is applied. Hunger, war and what? Killing each other out of nothing? Those are South Africans who didn't realise that "it's already ok"

Hunger- too many floods, climate change and wars.

Wars- Some tribals, some purely democratics

Once you have those, it's a chaos, no time, peace for education but to run for survival;

Is it better? Well, Congo isn't better, Sudan neither but Africa as a whole is.

You tell me how many countries in Africa are fighting out of nothing special? Angola, one of the reaches countries stopped fighting immidiately after the rebelious leader was caught and shot down. They have diamonds, petrole, gold, all good stuff. They are trying to organize their house.

Anything else?

Angola, one of the richest countries...

Sorry all you misguided sad people here ,why oh why do you see the need to teach natural farmers and hunters how to grow food ? and as a people who have been on earth longer than most races why the white man to show them the error of their ways ??
ADD INTO ALL THE INDIGINOUS peoples of this planet and just because we learnt to read and write does that give us the excuse to teach them? sorry but the answer is no, we were decended from them !!they are OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS and our Matriachs come on join the real world and look up to them , they were saving their environment before we started ruining it , they would leave and hand down to future generations not only knowledge but the living earth and a way to survive and yep you guessed it its US thhats fucked it up not them , a classic example is

the us gvmt of the day saw only one way of breaking the Indian tribes and that was depriving the tribes of food so the then Gvmt put a bounty on Buffalo and so the slaughter began ......... read the rest its out there if you look for it and it was the first form of ethnic cleansing ........ so the serbs did it the english colonised it but the americans tried to wipe a whole race off the face of the earth and still would like rid of them .

I am not here to be confrontational and I have alot of friends in America but before any one starts shouting the odds I will only say look back in your own history , and yea we didnt vote them in but it should make us all wonder

It's all bullshit. Do you ever follow the good news about Africa?
I just saw the other day that African first ladies were meeting meeting in Los Angeles to promote Health, development initiatives. This was a quick news that could have escaped me. This isn't huge, it's just something cute...
Do you really think that everybody is crying hungry in Africa? Why would be so mean to think that?

http://www.sagoodnews.co.za/sa_good_news/index.html

Conrad, our favorite archivist. How could I have known? Thanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Farmer_Murders

Nice country.

Hello there. My brother was an exchange student in South Africa in the eighties and he gets to hear about it from his friends. No matter how much the world tries to feed or educate the African people, it sounds like their small local governments are always at war. There are all kind of obstructions to the people getting food and education. It's all because of bizarre intricate politics. The people don't LIKE it that way but nobody knows how to make it change. So it's probably not food or education. it's their hostile violent smalltime local rulers.