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THE FOURTH TIME IN 176 YEARS THAT CONGRESS CLOSED ITS DOORS TO THE PUBLIC

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THE FOURTH TIME IN 176 YEARS THAT CONGRESS CLOSED ITS DOORS TO THE PUBLIC

Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 11:56 AM CST


Thursday, March 13, 2008

LAST NIGHTS SESSION WAS ONLY THE FOURTH TIME IN 176
YEARS THAT CONGRESS CLOSED ITS DOORS TO THE PUBLIC

Word has begun leaking from last nights special, closed-door session of the United States House of Representatives.

Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed:

*the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008,*

the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009,

the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse,

advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government,

The detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA,

the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the
collapses,

the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest

the necessary *and unavoidable* merger of the United States with Canada (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool),

the issuance of a new currency - *THE AMERO *- for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

Members of Congress were *FORBIDDEN* to reveal what was discussed. Several are so furious and concerned about the future of the country, they have begun leaking info.

They are preparing for some real bad stuff to go down. Better PREPARE NOW People!!!
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 11:59 AM CST
wow! dropping jaw WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Things are really that bad!!!!!!!!!!!! Kinda scary when ya think about it!!!!!! I have yet to see anything made public here about any type of merger with the U.S. but then that's par for the course!!!!!!!!



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Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:03 PM CST
wow !!! Didnt think it was that bad ..

Someone who can sort of explain .. please comment ...

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Manolito
a strfilled galaxy far faraway, Inner London, England UK
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:04 PM CST
i have been reading through your latest posts healthyliving, including this one.

one question that pops to mind is:

what are your sources for this information? i can see the dates in all of them, but the original source in much more importand to me in making up my mind.
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solitare
Munchen, Bayern Germany
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:10 PM CST
It is, unfortunately long overdue; in the past 30 years, many good patriotic Americans in Government, the Military and from all walks of life had seen this all coming, but were either shouted down, carted off to jails or mental hospitals, voted out of office or had the all too familiar accident of falling out of a window at the infamous Bethesda Naval Hospital, sudden fatal cancers, plane crashes, etc. ad infinitum. Seems that reality is finally catching up with the American regimes and their concocted fantasies of the people, by the people and always against the people...
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Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:21 PM CST
solitare wrote:
It is, unfortunately long overdue; in the past 30 years, many good patriotic Americans in Government, the Military and from all walks of life had seen this all coming, but were either shouted down, carted off to jails or mental hospitals, voted out of office or had the all too familiar accident of falling out of a window at the infamous Bethesda Naval Hospital, sudden fatal cancers, plane crashes, etc. ad infinitum. Seems that reality is finally catching up with the American regimes and their concocted fantasies of the people, by the people and always against the people...


crying Yes Solitare... So True, So True, So True!

Plane crashes... brings to mind... John John... help

Yes, there has just been too much of this killin goin on!!!!

Much info out there revealing all of this too! Ya just gotta research and READ!
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:22 PM CST
Manolito wrote:
i have been reading through your latest posts healthyliving, including this one.

one question that pops to mind is:

what are your sources for this information? i can see the dates in all of them, but the original source in much more importand to me in making up my mind.


I can't seem to find anything on it dated later than July 2007...so I don't know.....thumbs up
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:26 PM CST
Manolito wrote:
i have been reading through your latest posts healthyliving, including this one.

one question that pops to mind is:

what are your sources for this information? i can see the dates in all of them, but the original source in much more importand to me in making up my mind.


The bildaburg group meets every two to three years to discuss world economy and events. The rginization has been around for decades.

They have an agenda for the future. Google it. Most of the members are world leaders and representatives. The rest are the worlds economic "elite."
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Manolito
a strfilled galaxy far faraway, Inner London, England UK
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:28 PM CST
Hugz_n_Kissez wrote:
I can't seem to find anything on it dated later than July 2007...so I don't know.....


i have been searching through the net for more information and what i could find about it (besides the oficial story that talks about the surveilanvce bill that Bush treatened to veto) is that:

The above rumors initiated by Hal Turner, a white supremacist neo-nazi that hosts a radio show over there in the americas. Yap, i know of him, his poison sprews up whenever he opens his mouth.
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Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:32 PM CST
Manolito wrote:
i have been reading through your latest posts healthyliving, including this one.

one question that pops to mind is:

what are your sources for this information? i can see the dates in all of them, but the original source in much more importand to me in making up my mind.


You ask me this when I had just finished clearing my desktop of all of the info. LOL
I have dial-up and it is very slow. If you will google the subject lines of my articles, you will find the many sources of the info, just as I found it myself. Some were sent to me in emails, so I google them to check out the sources and perhaps be led to more info concerning them.

I googled Congress closes doors.

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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:35 PM CST
Great thread HL, thanks for this info wave

I just found this little lot - make of it what you will.......

The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide
Martha Rose Crow, M.S.

What Autogenocide Means

Auto comes from the Greek reflexive pronoun while genocide comes from the Latin words gens meaning "race, tribe" and -cidere meaning "kill." (source: http://wikipedia.org)

American Autogenocide is the deliberate, systematic and legal murder of American citizens by socially-engineering the die-off of populations that are “problematic” for the interests of wealth and power. Most victims prematurely die from social forces targeted at them to cause them to wear out by stress. This process is called "Weathering Away" or "Attrition By Stress."

Although it has to be “legal,” autogenocide is always committed under the radar so the media won’t be compelled to report it and so the people won’t see it or understand it. More, the genocide is blamed on the victims and their deaths are hidden-attributed-to other causes rather than the primary one of autogenocide.

What is different between this genocide and other genocides is that this unique genocide doesn't produce mass graves. Instead, the victims are spread over a large geographic area and buried singly, thereby hiding the body count. This keeps the deaths sanitized and homogenized. It also keeps the autogenocide surreal; thus enabling the village to deny It's existence when clues to It's existence are ambundant and abundantly transparent.

Six Primary Factors to Genocide

There are six primary factors underlying genocide. First, there is an overpopulation of people from groups that are not economically or socially important and/or viable to the political and economic elite.

Second, genocides usually happen in times of shortages. The shortage behind the current American autogenocide is work. America is losing jobs while the population continues to grow. The wealthy and industry are loathe to pay taxes to support negative or low producers (useless eaters) because the costs of maintaining these people (via increased taxes and social costs) affects their profits and earnings.

More, when there are too many people in times of great shortages, they become restless and can group together to force democratic and social changes the economic/political/military elite don’t want and work tirelessly and relentlessly against.

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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:36 PM CST
contd.


The third factor is that genocides are common to patriarchal societies. The stronger the institutional and cultural patriarchy, the stronger the chances for acts of genocide to exist, whether external or internal.

Threat to power (now or in the future) is the fourth underlying factor of genocide. For example, approximately one-third of all Americans are minorities and that number is expected to rise unless that population begins to die off. If minorities become the majority, the old, established rule of the country by white male elite will not hold for long unless the country becomes a dictatorship.

The fifth primary factor to genocide is that women and children are the primary targets. Women are exterminated because of their fertility. Eliminate them and the next generation of unwanted people will automatically be eliminated or at least be considerably downsized. This applies to the elimination of children as well.

Six, modern autogenocides don’t happen without the help of the media. They constantly distribute the propaganda preparing the village psyche for acceptance of the deaths. They officially ignore the suffering and premature death, thus lending approval to its justification and execution.

As good servants to the status quo, the media “hides” the parts of America the ruling and economic elite don’t want the majority of the village to see. Only when a fluke thing happens, like an Act of God like Hurricane Katrina, will America see its other, darker side. Now even that has faded and become buried as the national media has mostly forgotten it at the request of their elite masters. Autogenocide has to be hidden until all the people that are considered liabilities (debit people) in the books of the Patriarchal Capitalist Country are disappeared.

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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:41 PM CST
I found this on a forum called enmasse who are discussing Congress debating the Privacy Bill behind closed doors...It seems to have come from a mailing list of an organization called CAP (Canada Action Party) who seem to revel in conspiracy theories...


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Hmmm... I just received the following in my mailbox from a friend who unfortunately seems to revel in "conspiracy theories" (not that some conspiracies are not actually going on, mind you...) She tells me that this originally comes from CAP (Canada Action Party), and I wonder -- is there any other source (hopefully reputable) for these "leaks" that CAP is alleging? Has any EM-er come across anything remotely this apocalyptic?

My friend Judy wrote:
Having been on the CAP mailing list for some years, I've found their anticipatory reporting and conclusions to be unusually predictive. Let's hope they're totally off-base in this case and self-fulfilling prophecy is not being created. As a little reality check I just read the NY Times headline story about the crashing Tokyo market and the Feds. $30 bailout of Bear Sterns and other Wall St. investment banks to try to stabilize markets.

Hold onto your hats. Could be a rough ride a-comin'.

Quote:
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:20 PM

Subject: CLOSED Congress Session Last Night: Only 4th Time In 176 Years !

SPECIAL "CLOSED SESSION" OF U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSSED A LOT MORE THAN THE PENDING SECURITY SURVEILLANCE PROVISIONS!

This was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress has closed its doors to the public. What was it that they were discussing that they do NOT want us to know about?

Word has begun leaking from last nights special, closed-door session of the United States House of Representatives.

Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed:

1. the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008,

2. the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009,

3. the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse,

4. advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government,

5. the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA,

6. the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses,

7. the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest,

8. the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool),

9. the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

Members of Congress were FORBIDDEN to reveal what was discussed.

Several are so furious and concerned about the future of the country, they have begun leaking info. More details coming later today and over the weekend. SPREAD THE WORD!!!




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Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:45 PM CST
applause applause applause applause applause

Way to go Trish!!!!!!!!!

Now here's a woman who does RESEARCH which explains very clearly how it all works.

Thanks so much for this Miss Trish!!!

I can not resist...

lips For YOU my dear!!! hug
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Manolito
a strfilled galaxy far faraway, Inner London, England UK
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:49 PM CST
Hugz, i have found the exact same information - even panctuation mistakes duplicated - in 7 different websites / blogs so far. I tried to trace is down from the discussions and it leads back to Hal Turner (pls correct me if you know better).

Personally, i do not think that these matters are ever going to be discussed in a congress session. I am not saying that they do not exist or that there are not such dangers, but they are not congress room material. The congress is too big of a body to be able to handle this information.

These are things discused in the backstages of any government.

Dont get me wrong, but i do not like the US politics. I am liberal in my views and i was born in a country that was destroyed and still suffers from US foreign affair plotting and manipulation.

I think that my US friends are going to go through some very very hard times in the next 12-24 months. The stage has been long set for the storm to follow.

I do believe in the power of the people though and hope that after the storm the calm will show a new way in dealing with their internal and international affairs.
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Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:51 PM CST
trish123 wrote:


The fifth primary factor to genocide is that women and children are the primary targets. Women are exterminated because of their fertility. Eliminate them and the next generation of unwanted people will automatically be eliminated or at least be considerably downsized. This applies to the elimination of children as well.
Six, modern autogenocides don’t happen without the help of the media. They constantly distribute the propaganda preparing the village psyche for acceptance of the deaths. They officially ignore the suffering and premature death, thus lending approval to its justification and execution.

As good servants to the status quo, the media “hides” the parts of America the ruling and economic elite don’t want the majority of the village to see. Only when a fluke thing happens, like an Act of God like Hurricane Katrina, will America see its other, darker side. Now even that has faded and become buried as the national media has mostly forgotten it at the request of their elite masters. Autogenocide has to be hidden until all the people that are considered liabilities (debit people) in the books of the Patriarchal Capitalist Country are disappeared.


shock you joking .. it is DONE ????
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Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:52 PM CST
Thanks Hugz for the sources you have revealed. I am going to check the Washington Post to see if they may have something on it also.

I do not know who the origional source is, everyone seems to be posting the same info.

Propaganda or not... I have done much research on all of the subjects it lists over the past year, so weather or not Congress really did discuss these topics, I do not know... however, I do believe that these things have been being put in place for some time now, just as Solitare has stated in his comment.

I just do not think that ALL of Congress is informed on these subjects. I have read that "select members of Congress" were informed.
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Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:54 PM CST
I don't think we should all panic just yet. From what I can see, this is an old story about Bush trying to pass a securities bill which would continue to infringe on our civil rights all in the name of 9-11.

Try the link below to get more information about the subject:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/WireStory?id=4443787&page=1

Keep in mind that the business of government is government. Sometimes they just want to feed the machine.

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Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:54 PM CST
Manolito wrote:
Hugz, i have found the exact same information - even panctuation mistakes duplicated - in 7 different websites / blogs so far. I tried to trace is down from the discussions and it leads back to Hal Turner (pls correct me if you know better).

Personally, i do not think that these matters are ever going to be discussed in a congress session. I am not saying that they do not exist or that there are not such dangers, but they are not congress room material. The congress is too big of a body to be able to handle this information.

These are things discused in the backstages of any government.

Dont get me wrong, but i do not like the US politics. I am liberal in my views and i was born in a country that was destroyed and still suffers from US foreign affair plotting and manipulation.

I think that my US friends are going to go through some very very hard times in the next 12-24 months. The stage has been long set for the storm to follow.

I do believe in the power of the people though and hope that after the storm the calm will show a new way in dealing with their internal and international affairs.


See my latest post, We agree... wine
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Mar 30, 2008, 12:56 PM CST
SmartisSexy wrote:
I don't think we should all panic just yet. From what I can see, this is an old story about Bush trying to pass a securities bill which would continue to infringe on our civil rights all in the name of 9-11.

Try the link below to get more information about the subject:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/WireStory?id=4443787&page=1

Keep in mind that the business of government is government. Sometimes they just want to feed the machine.


Thanks for the link.

That being said. Don't limit yourself to MSM (main stream media).

Many internal whistle blowers are more reliable than the news. (read watergate)
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