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We all know that Climate change, Global warming and Greenhouse gasses are making more headlines today than alomst anything else!

But what about the looming energy crises (Peak Oil) which will affect every single person on this planet spare maybe the only very wealthy or those who live entirely by their own means???

Yes we all know we should be protecting the planet for future generations, but how often do you get the feeling that doing this is a luxury which can only be afforded if you already have everything you need?

I've recently read a bit about Peak Oil and how modern humans are now so dependant on oil that without it the population would have to revert back to pre-industrial revolution levels to be able to sustain itself!

So what is more of an issue here:

>The changing weather?

>Or the inescapable fact that we are running out of resources faster than any form of climate change is happening?!?

The way I see it is that with unlimited resources I'm sure humans would find a way to deal with whatever the weather throws at us - we can build better houses, hold back the sea, build flood protection, engineer crops to grow in any conditions etc. But without the resources we're all f**ked even if there weather stays nice...

Good topic. The energy catastrophe is only 8 years away, get ready if you know how.

PS: Most of the reserves that are mentioned are not energy efficient to extract. It will take a barrel of oil to extract a barrel of oil.

Try to name 5 things in your daily life that are not carbon fuel related. Bed sheets ? No. Cotton had to be grown, fertilized and processed, then transported. Knives and forks ? No. Metal had to be mined, processed and delivered, all fuel based. Etc., etc.

Bush admitted that the USA was addicted to fuel. Bush attacked Iraq which has the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world. Coincidence ?

Yeah, but the end of the world catstrophe is only 4 years away so.......

Know what scares me the most? No one knows when exactly peak oil will occur or if its even happened allready! We need to be a good few years past the peak to be sure its happened. The only clue we have is high oil prices!!!

After the peak, oil production will decline at about 7% anually and will eventually become impossible to extract - imagine trying to squeez the last few drops of water out of a damp towel...

Yet even with oil at 105$ a barrel most people are blissfully ignorant that we might be on the peak allready...

I don't worry about either, worry is simply an unproductive exercise.

What I do is conserve as much as possible, with the sure notion that when oil gets short enough new sources of energy will become affordable.

Climate change doesn't concern me at all, as I feel it is a natural occurence that will correct itself naturally. Heck, you can't even get the doomsayers to agree whether it's warming or cooling we should be worried about.

It's all the environmentalist's fault. Haven't you heard? There is a cache of shale underneath the Yellowstone Park area that dwarfs the Saudis entire oil supply. There's oil under the Great Lakes, but we can't drill there either. There's still plenty of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, but there is a moritorium on drilling new wells there.

Also, I'm pretty sure that OPEC could at any time drop the price of oil enough to cripple America by killing our oil production companies, despite our supposedly newly "stolen" Iraqi resources. I just don't buy the "Blood for Oil" propaganda.

Yes well I often try to comfort myself by saying other energy sources will become affordable to exploit, but I have yet to see an example in history where the world has found a replacement to such an important resource on such a grand scale in a very short space of time! If you know of such an example please let me know...

Yes I've heard these claims before - but isn't this so-called oil shale underneath the Yellowstone Park "a bit dodgy"? I mean - environmentalists would be powerless to stop the exploitation of a reserve that size if it was really worth it...

It's kind of funny, anyone remember the energy crisis of the 70's, sound familiar? The twist is this time they added more fear by adding global warming to the mix. Energy is the only commodity where they truely have us by the short and curly's, you either pay or cease to funtion.

All this stuff is fabricated to instill fear in us, much like the so said war on terror, which is also bullshit. I wonder what happened to those really nice color codes Bush used to plaster on the tv screen every morning?

I believe it was R.Buckminster Fuller who said,that "There Was No Energy Crisis,Only A Crisis Of Ignorance!"
The World ought to take heed of some of Fullers Ideas.

Well it's been said that modern humans tend to look for stuff they could possibly exploit, then once they figure out how to exploit it they turn their attentions to figuring out how to exploit it harder and faster!!!

Watch this clip - gives a good insight into the problem...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP2GejkLdwA

The oil peak was reached in the 70's. Fact. The rest is book-cooking.

The peak for discovering oil was reached in the 60's
The peak for producing oil on the continental US was reached in the 70's

The worldwide production of oil for export and import has not peaked yet, but may be peaking as we speak!!!

Energy "so called" shortages is just another example of how we show these greedy **** just how much they actually depend on us.

Nobody ever seems to remember Russia.

There is a lot of oil and gas that has yet to be discovered over there. I have friends who have been there to work on exploration rigs and nobody knows how much there really is, but it's lots!
Maybe even the biggest fields yet. It might be hard to get to, but so was the oil in norhern Alberta and BC until the last few decades. Now there are roads eveywhere.
No true shortage, it's just not easy for America to access.

The main problem these days isn't so much "how much oil there is", but more so "how much oil there is versus how much oil people want"...

We are producing more oil nowadays than ever before - 87.5 million barrles per day - if you lined up each of those barrels end-to-end they'd meassure over 50000miles, or long enough to cirle around the globe twice!

And this demand keeps growing with the world's population that is seeking to improve their lifestyle constantly. So yes - there is still plenty of oil, but is there still enough to satisfy everyone's growing needs? If everyone on this planet lived like those in developed countries we'd need to produce around 4 times the amount of oil per day that we do now - is that possible with all Russia's oil? I wonder if that's what India and China are hoping???