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I studied Electronics and after working for a few years in that area studied Fine Art.

I have worked professionaly in this area for over 20 yrs now.

I have had a lifelong Interest in Philosophy and Religion, I had read the complete Bible for the first time by age 15, and have studied all of the major religions and spent time with members of of as many of them as I could.

I do have personal beliefs and this is why I find it interesting to talk with people from as many faiths as possible.
I am still studying and probably will be for the rest of my life.
feels like putting a jigsaw puzzle together/

I just received this and thought it was great, would love to share it with you guys....WHAT A GREAT ANALOGY OF GOD FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW
BY ROBIN WILLIAMS NO LESS

This is one of the best explanations
of why God allows pain and suffering
that I have seen. It's an explanation
other people will understand.

A man went to a barbershop to have
his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work,
They talked about so many things
and various subjects.

When they eventually touched on
the subject of God, the barber said:
'I don't believe that God exists.'

'Why do you say that?'
asked the customer.
'Well, you just have to go out in
the street to realize that God
doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists,
would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither
suffering nor pain.
I can't imagine loving a God who
would allow all of these things.'

The customer thought for a moment,
but didn't respond because he didn't
want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer
left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop,
he saw a man in the street with long,
stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed
beard.
He looked dirty and un-kept.

The customer turned back and entered
the barber shop again and he said
to the barber:
'You know what? Barbers do not exist.'

'How can you say that?'
asked the surprised barber.
'I am here, and I am a barber.
And I just worked on you!'

'No!' the customer exclaimed.
'Barbers don't exist because
if they did, there would be no
people with d irty long hair
and untrimmed beards,
like that man outside.'

'Ah, but barbers DO exist!
What happens is, people
do not come to me.'

'Exactly!'-
affirmed the customer.
'That's the point!
God, too, DOES exist!
What happens, is, people
don't go to Him
and do not look for Him.
That's why there's so much pain
and suffering in the world.'
BE BLESSED & BE A BLESSING!

'Do not ask the Lord to guide your footsteps if you're not willing to move your feet.'

That's really cool way to say it. I always attributed it to ourselves, the reason for suffering and pain in the world. That we make choices that take us farther away from God, and because we are so far away, we are unhappy.
It's kinda like moving away from family, you know they're there for you, but sometimes when they're not immediately close to you, you feel lost.

Thank you anjel.

So much harm has been done by us humans in the name of God, that it defies trying to decipher 'IT/HIM/HER' in words.

The dream may be over.
But HOPE for the better is not.
Differnet names have been given to GOD throughout the ages, and still it remains a mystery.

Maybe God is just....within?

You wanna know how I felt him, really felt him the first time??

You wanna know how I felt him, really felt him the first time??

So now I am wondering is there a spectrum of belief from very conservative, "by the book believers" to people who refer only to spirituality and somehow seem to sound akin to Buddhism or an other Philosophical belief.

And if so is it possible that every person chooses that which fits their understanding of the World.

I am searching to find words here....

Have to go for now...my best friend just arrived from mexico city, hes just here to have lunch with me and he goes back...

I will come back with MORE answers...

Aries...take care of this thread for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

Hiya Patrick

I think in order to have any kind of understanding of God (internally) you have to disregard Religion altogether.. well Religious Dogma at least.. I think that if anything it actually diverts peoples attentions away from God.. God is within, and all around us.. I feel if a persons heart and mind are open u are more likely to find God in ur deepest thought and feelings and in all the beauty that is around us.. and even in other people JMO

I see God as the Force that connects us together with the vibrant flow of the universe and beyond.
We are God and have God's energy in us. God does not decide our destiny....we decide with our choices and thoughts. God is everything and we can never really understand the meaning or concept of God....Jesus and Muhammed specifically stated this in the respective scriptures.
I hate when people refer God as a man. And I hate when people blame God for the shit world. We should blame ourselves, our politicians, our corrupt system, and our individual and collective choices. We are in a very cruel vibration in this astral plane. Evolve and make the right choices according to your paradigm that is in line with the laws of the universe if you want to go to a better plane.

I see God as the Force that connects us together with the vibrant flow of the universe and beyond.
We are God and have God's energy in us. God does not decide our destiny....we decide with our choices and thoughts. God is everything and we can never really understand the meaning or concept of God....Jesus and Muhammed specifically stated this in the respective scriptures.
I hate when people refer God as a man. And I hate when people blame God for the shit world. We should blame ourselves, our politicians, our corrupt system, and our individual and collective choices. We are in a very cruel vibration in this astral plane. Evolve and make the right choices according to your paradigm that is in line with the laws of the universe if you want to go to a better plane.

It's far easier for humanity to accept that they will go on to a safe haven and be forgiven for all, rather than to question the existence of a super omnipotent being.

So you understand God as an entity outside of yourself, A spiritual entity. How would you describe this entity? As a ever-living ever-powerful presence? A consciousness, a being, intelligent outside of ourselves. I am trying very hard to put words on this for you probably failing.

Or is it that you have no explanation for what you believe in other than that there is something?