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Are age and wisdom synonymous?




Detente
North West, England UK
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:41 PM CST
specialone4u wrote:
Yes and no....of course knowledge and understanding, and the spectrum of experience on many profound levels would elevate wisdom. However, that does not mean a 35 year old man is less wise than a 65 year old man. It depends on the application of knowledge and exercising some curiosities along the way. [b]But we cannot sit here and suggest that a 45 year old narrow minded couch potato who just works, drinks on the weekends, and watches porn all the time is more wise than a 25 year old man who is a knowledge seeker with an open mind.[b]

Then again, one would have to consider the age of the soul and the spefick journey it has traveled and is currently in. Old souls that keep coming back to this astral plane (our world) are truly wiser than the young sould who are new to the earthly ways.


Excellent!cheers
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irishlass45
Texas USA, Texas USA
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:43 PM CST
Detente wrote:
You speak well Lass.

thank you my friend too bad you don't live near bristol come the end of may would have a beer with you but thanks for the compliment! they are always welcomehug lips
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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:44 PM CST
I really need to start spell checking. Silly me.
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irishlass45
Texas USA, Texas USA
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:44 PM CST
irishlass45 wrote:
thank you my friend too bad you don't live near bristol come the end of may would have a beer with you but thanks for the compliment! they are always welcome
oops end of April
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roseofsharon
Buggered if I know where...?!!, Hampshire, England UK
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:49 PM CST
totallytopside wrote:
A man may be wise in respect to one thing and a fool in respect to another.


Indeed!!! I think it was Scott "Dilbert" Adams who said "We are all stupid about different things at different times"..... I believe this to be true.
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Many a time I have wondered about the logic someone has applied to a situation, knowing I would have dealt with it differently and, yet, I must realise that there will be times when I deal with something inappropriately and someone else may have nailed it.....!! None of us are perfect, momentarily lose or lack judgement and that is why we need the contribution of others and their brains?? No man is an island..... knowing that is, to some degree, wisdom, isn't it??

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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:54 PM CST
Michael McDonald wrote:
What a Fool Believes


But what a fool believes he sees
No wise man has the power to reason away
What seems to be
Is always better than nothing
And nothing at all keeps sending him...

Somewhere back in her long ago
Where he can still believe theres a place in her life
Someday, somewhere, she will return
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irishlass45
Texas USA, Texas USA
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:57 PM CST
specialone4u wrote:
But what a fool believes he sees
No wise man has the power to reason away
What seems to be
Is always better than nothing
And nothing at all keeps sending him...

Somewhere back in her long ago
Where he can still believe theres a place in her life
Someday, somewhere, she will return

sigh why couldn't you have been ten years older? love the words guycool
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roseofsharon
Buggered if I know where...?!!, Hampshire, England UK
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:57 PM CST
specialone4u wrote:
Yes and no....of course knowledge and understanding, and the spectrum of experience on many profound levels would elevate wisdom. However, that does not mean a 35 year old man is less wise than a 65 year old man. It depends on the application of knowledge and exercising some curiosities along the way. But we cannot sit here and suggest that a 45 year old narrow minded couch potato who just works, drinks on the weekends, and watches porn all the time is more wise than a 25 year old man who is a knowledge seeker with an open mind.

Then again, one would have to consider the age of the soul and the spefick journey it has traveled and is currently in. Old souls that keep coming back to this astral plane (our world) are truly wiser than the young sould who are new to the earthly ways.


Ooooo..... missed this one first time around. Well said, my friend....thumbs up

Still a cute armpit!! thumbs up

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bajanblue
Speightstown, Saint Peter Barbados
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:11 PM CST
Detente wrote:
Is it as simple as that? Do we naturally accumulate wisdom as the years pass us by, or are some amongst us, regardless of age, just a little more switched on?

And by wisdom, I'm thinking the ability to apply knowledge gained to better ourselves and others. I believe wisdom isn't just knowledge in itself.

Are all young people naive, and older folk wise by definition as some seem to suggest?
Oh, and you're all responsible for your own conduct on this here thread. I take no responsibility for any ensuing battles.

Fire away folks!


There is nothing natural about wisdom.

If you work hard and pay attention you just might meet someone who has some.

They are the ones who sit quietly on the sidelines and watch the rest of us get our knickers in a twist over...pretty much anything.

I think it is probably easier to act wisely with some experience under your belt. There are those who seem to know the right thing to do instinctively. But they are not always wise, just intuitive.conversing
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Detente
North West, England UK
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:15 PM CST
bajanblue wrote:
There is nothing natural about wisdom.

If you work hard and pay attention you just might meet someone who has some.

They are the ones who sit quietly on the sidelines and watch the rest of us get our knickers in a twist over...pretty much anything.

I think it is probably easier to act wisely with some experience under your belt. There are those who seem to know the right thing to do instinctively. But they are not always wise, just intuitive.


Never a truer word spoken D.wave
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irishlass45
Texas USA, Texas USA
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:16 PM CST
bajanblue wrote:
There is nothing natural about wisdom.

If you work hard and pay attention you just might meet someone who has some.

They are the ones who sit quietly on the sidelines and watch the rest of us get our knickers in a twist over...pretty much anything.

I think it is probably easier to act wisely with some experience under your belt. There are those who seem to know the right thing to do instinctively. But they are not always wise, just intuitive.

words from a wise lady, hey there long time no seewave hug
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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:19 PM CST
bajanblue wrote:
There are those who seem to know the right thing to do instinctively. But they are not always wise, just intuitive.



I disagree...

Intuition and wisdom are indeed connected.
If you have a deep understanding for our world, our paradigms, our desires, biological drifts and if your perception has a sharp radar, then intuitively doing the wise thing comes with knowledge, understanding, heightened awareness, and being in touch with yourself, other energies that belong to other people as well as the universe in a spiritual and cosmic sense.
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bajanblue
Speightstown, Saint Peter Barbados
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:21 PM CST
irishlass45 wrote:
words from a wise lady, hey there long time no see


I have been in and out, my sleep patterns have changed on me of late!

I never feel wise, but thank you.wave hug
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Detente
North West, England UK
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:22 PM CST
specialone4u wrote:
I disagree...

Intuition and wisdom are indeed connected.
If you have a deep understanding for our world, our paradigms, our desires, biological drifts and if your perception has a sharp radar, then intuitively doing the wise thing comes with knowledge, understanding, heightened awareness, and being in touch with yourself, other energies that belong to other people as well as the universe in a spiritual and cosmic sense.


I understand your point, but it comes down to how you define wisdom and intuition.

Within the parameters of this discussion, Bajan makes a fair and accurate distinction.

If you choose to define differently, so be it!cheers
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irishlass45
Texas USA, Texas USA
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:28 PM CST
Wisdom is having gained knowledge, experience, and intuitive understanding, along with a capacity to apply these qualities well. It is the judicious application of knowledge.[1] To some extent the terms wisdom and intelligence have similar and overlapping meanings.


Intuition has many related meanings, usually connected to the meaning "ability to sense or know immediately without reasoning"

sounds like wisdom and intuition walk hand and hand to mebouquet of flowers
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bajanblue
Speightstown, Saint Peter Barbados
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:31 PM CST
specialone4u wrote:
I disagree...

Intuition and wisdom are indeed connected.
If you have a deep understanding for our world, our paradigms, our desires, biological drifts and if your perception has a sharp radar, then intuitively doing the wise thing comes with knowledge, understanding, heightened awareness, and being in touch with yourself, other energies that belong to other people as well as the universe in a spiritual and cosmic sense.


Certainly there is a connection.

But I do not believe every intuitive moment arises from wisdom, although i suspect there is a wide streak of intuition in every wise moment.
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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:35 PM CST
Detente wrote:
I understand your point, but it comes down to how you define wisdom and intuition.

Within the parameters of this discussion, Bajan makes a fair and accurate distinction.

If you choose to define differently, so be it!


Intuition is apparent ability to acquire knowledge without a clear inference or reasoning process. Intuition, by definition, has no objective validity. So with that said...I stand by my application for confirmation. If you are talking about intuitively not going somewhere because you sense something, then that is a discussion regarding our sixth sense (esp).

In psychology, intuition can encompass the ability to know valid solutions to problems and decision making. That comes with wisdom....

She should have given more examples to put it in the crystal clear.
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Midship
Limerick, Limerick Ireland
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:35 PM CST

Ni thagan ciall roimh aois...an old Irish saying...not universally applicable...meaning is...Sense doesn't come before age...
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irishlass45
Texas USA, Texas USA
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 7:50 PM CST
Midship wrote:
Ni thagan ciall roimh aois...an old Irish saying...not universally applicable...meaning is...Sense doesn't come before age...

thumbs up that makes sense to me so I will take it I made a wise choice in believing that one and put it in me pocketlips
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 8:19 PM CST
bajanblue wrote:
I have been in and out, my sleep patterns have changed on me of late!

I never feel wise, but thank you.


You may be the wisest child I know, Dorielle. (I almost wrote "wildest" child :-)

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