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Our Marines and All who fight for our FREEDOM.

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allready
portland, Oregon USA
Posted: Apr 10, 2008, 4:49 PM CST
THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.

Please don't delete this until you send
it on, Let's send it around the world.
FRIENDS ARE BORN, NOT MADE

This is a poem being sent from a Marine
to his Dad. For those who take the time
to read it, you'll see a letter from him to
his dad at the bottom. It makes you truly
thankful for not only the Marines, but
ALL of our troops.
THE MARINE
&n bsp;
We all came together,
Both young and old
To fight for our freedom,
To stand and be bold.

In the midst of all evil,
We stand our ground,
And we protect our country
From all terror around.

Peace and not war,
Is what some people say.
But I'll give my life,
So you can live the American way.

I give you the right
To talk of your peace.
To stand in your groups,
and protest in our streets.

But still I fight on,
I don't bitch, I don't whine.
I'm just one of the people
Who is doing your time.

I'm harder than nails,
Stronger than any machine.
I'm the immortal soldier,
I'm a U.S. MARINE!

So stand in my shoes,
And leave from your home.
Fight for the people who hate you,
With the protests they've shown.
Fight for the stranger,
Fight for the young.
So they all may have,
The greatest freedom you've won

>Fight for the sick,
Fight for the poor
Fight for the cripple,
Who lives next door.

But when your time comes,
Do what I've done.
For if you stand up for freedom,
You'll stand when the fight's done

By: Corporal Aaron M. Gilbert, US Marine Corps
USS SAIPAN, PERSIAN GULF

March 23, 2003
Hey Dad,
Do me a favor and label this 'The Marine' and send it to everybody on your email list. Even leave this letter in it. I want this rolling all over the US ; I want every home reading it. Every eye seeing it. And every heart to feel it. So can you please send this for me? I would but my email time isn't that long and I don't have much time anyway.
You know what Dad? I wondered what it would be like to truly understand what JFK said in His inaugural speech. 'When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it.' Well, now I know. And I do. Dad, I welcome the opportunity to do what I do. Even though I have left behind a beautiful wife, and I will miss the birth of our first born child, I would do it 70 times over to fight for the place that God has made for my home.< I love you all and I miss you very much. I wish I could be there when Sandi has our baby, but tell her that I love her, and Lord willing, I will be coming home soon. Give Mom a great big hug from me and give one to yourself too.
Aaron

Please let this marine (and all our military) know we care by passing his poem onto your friends even if you don't usually take time to forward mail...do it this time!
Thanks,
Let's help Aaron's dad spread the word ..... FREEDOM isn't FREE
Someone pays for you and me.

God bless you!
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Scottishlass
Knoxville, Tennessee USA
Posted: Apr 10, 2008, 5:00 PM CST
crying Thanks for sharing. I have copied & pasted to my email & sent it on.
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 11:15 AM CST
It's a pity this marine (if he exists) is in the Gulf - presumably involved in the illegal attack on Iraq. There are better ways of "fighting for freedom".

I won't be mailing this to anyone.
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lusciousmile
Espoo, Etela-Suomen Laani Finland
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 11:20 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
It's a pity this marine (if he exists) is in the Gulf - presumably involved in the illegal attack on Iraq. There are better ways of "fighting for freedom".

I won't be mailing this to anyone.


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Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 11:28 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
It's a pity this marine (if he exists) is in the Gulf - presumably involved in the illegal attack on Iraq. There are better ways of "fighting for freedom".

I won't be mailing this to anyone.
Thats understandable what would you know how it feels to be in this country.To go out of your country to lay your life on the line,what could you know.But in reply semper fe.My uncle was a marine served on the Enterprise.And it makes me get choked to hear his words and who wouldn't.But the ones not from our country how can they understand or feel these words the way they are meant to be felt.God bless you and keep you.I have a niece in Iraq right now.And its not good there.As God blesses us everyday he will watch over our men and women watching out for us.Thank u for sharing this.applause applause
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 11:37 AM CST
hillbillyhoney wrote:
Thats understandable what would you know how it feels to be in this country.To go out of your country to lay your life on the line,what could you know.But in reply semper fe.My uncle was a marine served on the Enterprise.And it makes me get choked to hear his words and who wouldn't.But the ones not from our country how can they understand or feel these words the way they are meant to be felt.God bless you and keep you.I have a niece in Iraq right now.And its not good there.As God blesses us everyday he will watch over our men and women watching out for us.Thank u for sharing this.


Unfortunately I must remind you that as this is an international site....they are not OUR marines....they are YOURS.

It is not a question of my not understanding how it feels to be in your country - do YOU understand how other countries feel about having YOUR soldiers on their soil?

Our soldiers put their lives on the line for different causes - not illegal invasions of foreign countries. I understand the sentiments perfectly well and I don't wish your marines or anybody else's any harm.

Of course it is not good in Iraq - people are shooting at your soldiers. Those people probably regard themselves as fighting for freedom to drive out an invader. I'm not sure whose side God would be on in such a conflict.

I repeat that I don't wish harm to any soldier of any country but if propaganda on behalf of the US marines is posted here then i feel free to respond calling it that.

Best wishes
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 11:53 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
Unfortunately I must remind you that as this is an international site....they are not OUR marines....they are YOURS.

It is not a question of my not understanding how it feels to be in your country - do YOU understand how other countries feel about having YOUR soldiers on their soil?

Our soldiers put their lives on the line for different causes - not illegal invasions of foreign countries. I understand the sentiments perfectly well and I don't wish your marines or anybody else's any harm.

Of course it is not good in Iraq - people are shooting at your soldiers. Those people probably regard themselves as fighting for freedom to drive out an invader. I'm not sure whose side God would be on in such a conflict.

I repeat that I don't wish harm to any soldier of any country but if propaganda on behalf of the US marines is posted here then i feel free to respond calling it that.

Best wishes
Well pay better attention instead of calling people names.She posted a poem that he asked be read and what do u do but run it down.Then u say its fake so good to see you are an expert.Regardless you don't want or like soldiers on your soil,bet you are safer for it.cheering cheering
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 11:56 AM CST
hillbillyhoney wrote:
Well pay better attention instead of calling people names.She posted a poem that he asked be read and what do u do but run it down.Then u say its fake so good to see you are an expert.Regardless you don't want or like soldiers on your soil,bet you are safer for it.
As for Iraq my niece is up close as you can get.And its not just shooting at our soldiers,but ones in Iraq.And not to mention I ran has to be watched,and lets not forget Turkey playingh its part.frustrated
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 12:22 PM CST
hillbillyhoney wrote:
Well pay better attention instead of calling people names.She posted a poem that he asked be read and what do u do but run it down.Then u say its fake so good to see you are an expert.Regardless you don't want or like soldiers on your soil,bet you are safer for it.


I called nobody names. I may doubt the authenticity of the poem as I have seen many similar posted here and they don't ring true. (I may be wrong - perhaps the OP knows this soldier personally)

No, I don't want your soldiers on my soil and I am sure the Iraqis for the most part don't either.

I am sure you are worried about your niece and I don't wish her any harm but that doesn't make the enterprise she is involved in right.

Iran might not think it needed to be kept an eye on, nor Turkey - aren't they supposed to be your allies by the way?

I repeat what I asked before....who is fighting for freedom? The invaders or those whose country has been invaded?

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opalbeauty
Worcester County USA
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 12:35 PM CST
Fallingman wrote:
It's a pity this marine (if he exists) is in the Gulf - presumably involved in the illegal attack on Iraq. There are better ways of "fighting for freedom".

I won't be mailing this to anyone.


I agree. he is not fighting for my freedom he is fighting the illegal Bush war. He should be fighting Bush the biggist terrorist recruitor in the world. And he also doesn't have a choice so it wouldn't matter if he did bitch or whine. And he has also been trained not to think for himself but to do what he is told. That is the only reason I support the soldiers. Some soldiers do have the courage to speak out and they did speak out in Washington in March of the year....Again it was called "The Winter Soldiers Story" Iraqi Vets speak out against the war.
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Lillym
Sliema, Majjistral Malta
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 12:55 PM CST
allready wrote:
THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.

Please don't delete this until you send
it on, Let's send it around the world.
FRIENDS ARE BORN, NOT MADE

This is a poem being sent from a Marine
to his Dad. For those who take the time
to read it, you'll see a letter from him to
his dad at the bottom. It makes you truly
thankful for not only the Marines, but
ALL of our troops.
THE MARINE
&n bsp;
We all came together,
Both young and old
To fight for our freedom,
To stand and be bold.

In the midst of all evil,
We stand our ground,
And we protect our country
From all terror around.

Peace and not war,
Is what some people say.
But I'll give my life,
So you can live the American way.

I give you the right
To talk of your peace.
To stand in your groups,
and protest in our streets.

But still I fight on,
I don't bitch, I don't whine.
I'm just one of the people
Who is doing your time.

I'm harder than nails,
Stronger than any machine.
I'm the immortal soldier,
I'm a U.S. MARINE!

So stand in my shoes,
And leave from your home.
Fight for the people who hate you,
With the protests they've shown.
Fight for the stranger,
Fight for the young.
So they all may have,
The greatest freedom you've won

>Fight for the sick,
Fight for the poor
Fight for the cripple,
Who lives next door.

But when your time comes,
Do what I've done.
For if you stand up for freedom,
You'll stand when the fight's done

By: Corporal Aaron M. Gilbert, US Marine Corps
USS SAIPAN, PERSIAN GULF

March 23, 2003
Hey Dad,
Do me a favor and label this 'The Marine' and send it to everybody on your email list. Even leave this letter in it. I want this rolling all over the US ; I want every home reading it. Every eye seeing it. And every heart to feel it. So can you please send this for me? I would but my email time isn't that long and I don't have much time anyway.
You know what Dad? I wondered what it would be like to truly understand what JFK said in His inaugural speech. 'When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it.' Well, now I know. And I do. Dad, I welcome the opportunity to do what I do. Even though I have left behind a beautiful wife, and I will miss the birth of our first born child, I would do it 70 times over to fight for the place that God has made for my home.< I love you all and I miss you very much. I wish I could be there when Sandi has our baby, but tell her that I love her, and Lord willing, I will be coming home soon. Give Mom a great big hug from me and give one to yourself too.
Aaron

Please let this marine (and all our military) know we care by passing his poem onto your friends even if you don't usually take time to forward mail...do it this time!
Thanks,
Let's help Aaron's dad spread the word ..... FREEDOM isn't FREE
Someone pays for you and me.

God bless you!





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Hamilton, Strathclyde, Scotland UK
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 1:02 PM CST
Well I'm an Iraq VET 1991 and 2006, and I DO believe that what the soldiers are doing in Iraq is right.....Maybe the reason for goin was suspect at the time.
But when you see the good that is being done and relief on peoples faces just because you are there is worth it...

Yes we have still got a long way to go, but that is because the fundamentalists dont want a democracy there, as they would be (F*CKED) hence why they are training young boys to kill, and as they dont know better they listen!! they should be in high school not killing each other or british and US troops.


Speak out against the war????? War is shit.. nobody knows this like a soldier or one who has been there too..

Dont knock anything you really know f**k all about.... stop listening to YOUR news chanels and believing that bull..

I went there to help and I think in a small way I did, I got shot in the two times I was there and I wouldn't change what happened to me for anything, cos I do believe I made a difference...however slight
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Jacko50
Qawra, Majjistral Malta
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 1:03 PM CST
I've read similiar in a few places, and I agree with the sentiment not the war......I hope all your boys get home safely.......an ex Brit marine....stay safe
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opalbeauty
Worcester County USA
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 2:32 PM CST
jimbhoy wrote:
Well I'm an Iraq VET 1991 and 2006, and I DO believe that what the soldiers are doing in Iraq is right.....Maybe the reason for goin was suspect at the time.
But when you see the good that is being done and relief on peoples faces just because you are there is worth it...

Yes we have still got a long way to go, but that is because the fundamentalists dont want a democracy there, as they would be (F*CKED) hence why they are training young boys to kill, and as they dont know better they listen!! they should be in high school not killing each other or british and US troops.Speak out against the war????? War is shit.. nobody knows this like a soldier or one who has been there too..

Dont knock anything you really know f**k all about.... stop listening to YOUR news chanels and believing that bull..

I went there to help and I think in a small way I did, I got shot in the two times I was there and I wouldn't change what happened to me for anything, cos I do believe I made a difference...however slight


and you don"t get to tell anyone who to listen to jimbo.
Sure they are making a difference when the Iran minister visted recently and they gave him a red carpet reception and a kiss on the cheek. And our soldiers are being charged over $3.00 a gallon in gas.
Maybe Bush's puppet government is not as obedient as he thinks...

An old woman killed for carrying groceries. Taxi drivers fired upon at will. A man shot dead for opening a door. Anyone carrying a shovel, speaking on a cell phone, standing on a roof, or wearing a green head band risked death.

"People were shot for simply walking down the street of their own city," testified Marine Sgt. Jason LeMieux.

He was joined by several other soldiers and marines who testified to the daily horrors of occupation I Iraq and Afghanistan on the opening day of Winter Soldier, a 4 day event organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War, (IVAW) at the National Labor College in Silver Spring, Maryland.

Iraq veteran Steven Casey, appearing at his first public event, played a video from a house raid. A woman is screaming. The soldiers raided the wrong house. "Going to the wrong place, destroying the wrong place. This woman will never forget what happened," said Casey about the humiliation and destruction he caused.

Marine Jon Turner spoke of his first kill. He called the person "the fat man," and said he was an innocent. His commander celebrated the death. According to Turner, his commander would have given him or any other marine a 4 day leave pass, if his first kill had been by stabbing.

Staring into the audience of veterans, friends, and members of the press, Turner said, ."I am sorry for the hate and destruction I inflicted on innocent people. I am sorry for the things that I did. I am not the monster I once was. "

He was not the only one to apologize. Many testifiers asked forgiveness for what they had done, had seen, had believed, and called for an immediate end to the occupation.

They challenged the notion that a tightening of the rules of engagement would have any effect.

"These are the consequences of sending young men and women to battle, "said Marine Lance Cpl. Vincent Emanuele.

Emanuele testified to mishandling of corpses saying when bodies were seen on the road, standard procedure was to drive over and smash them or if so inclined, take souvenir photographs. One picture of a decomposed body, ended up as a screen saver.

Perry O'Brien, a medic in Afghanistan, said during an interview, that

Bodies of dead civilians were used as practice cadavers for medics.

The sensational testimony cast a silence over the audience. People shook their heads, stared at the floor, trying to make sense of it.

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opalbeauty
Worcester County USA
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 2:33 PM CST
Sometimes the grimmest stories were not the goriest. Small details cataloguing the daily indignities added up to a sickening picture.

Army veteran Steven Casey would ram his Bradley vehicle into buildings, or take out water lines. He remembers whooping and hollering on a roof top while watching a several buildings being destroyed in an air strike.

Army private Clifton Hicks remembers his friends throwing water bottles, MREs filed with shit, at passing Iraqis. He called it a childish game played in revenge and frustration.

Marine Cpl. Jason Washburn who served 3 tours in Iraq said,

"we would butt stroke them, jab them with muzzles, kick them.

One time there was a guy on a bicycle with a bag filled of groceries, and we smashed up his bicycle."

In another incident he said, "We were ordered to guard a fuel station - and a bunch of people rushed to get fuel, and we jumped off the truck and charged at the Iraqis and we really beat the hell out of them with rifles, fists, feet, and so once they had fled, broken and bleeding, we mounted up our trucks and left."

.Many soldiers in different units, deployed at different times and locations, spoke about carrying drop weapons and shovels that could be planted on people in order to make the dead look like they were insurgents.

This was commonly encouraged, but only behind closed doors," said Washburn.

The panel testimony ended with videotaped stories of Iraqis who had been wounded or lost loved ones as a result of U.S. military action.


[quote=opalbeauty]and you don"t get to tell anyone who to listen to jimbo.
Sure they are making a difference when the Iran minister visted recently and they gave him a red carpet reception and a kiss on the cheek. And our soldiers are being charged over $3.00 a gallon in gas.
Maybe Bush's puppet government is not as obedient as he thinks...

An old woman killed for carrying groceries. Taxi drivers fired upon at will. A man shot dead for opening a door. Anyone carrying a shovel, speaking on a cell phone, standing on a roof, or wearing a green head band risked death.

"People were shot for simply walking down the street of their own city," testified Marine Sgt. Jason LeMieux.

He was joined by several other soldiers and marines who testified to the daily horrors of occupation I Iraq and Afghanistan on the opening day of Winter Soldier, a 4 day event organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War, (IVAW) at the National Labor College in Silver Spring, Maryland.

Iraq veteran Steven Casey, appearing at his first public event, played a video from a house raid. A woman is screaming. The soldiers raided the wrong house. "Going to the wrong place, destroying the wrong place. This woman will never forget what happened," said Casey about the humiliation and destruction he caused.

Marine Jon Turner spoke of his first kill. He called the person "the fat man," and said he was an innocent. His commander celebrated the death. According to Turner, his commander would have given him or any other marine a 4 day leave pass, if his first kill had been by stabbing.

Staring into the audience of veterans, friends, and members of the press, Turner said, ."I am sorry for the hate and destruction I inflicted on innocent people. I am sorry for the things that I did. I am not the monster I once was. "

He was not the only one to apologize. Many testifiers asked forgiveness for what they had done, had seen, had believed, and called for an immediate end to the occupation.

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opalbeauty
Worcester County USA
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 2:34 PM CST
They challenged the notion that a tightening of the rules of engagement would have any effect.

"These are the consequences of sending young men and women to battle, "said Marine Lance Cpl. Vincent Emanuele.

Emanuele testified to mishandling of corpses saying when bodies were seen on the road, standard procedure was to drive over and smash them or if so inclined, take souvenir photographs. One picture of a decomposed body, ended up as a screen saver.

Perry O'Brien, a medic in Afghanistan, said during an interview, that

Bodies of dead civilians were used as practice cadavers for medics.

The sensational testimony cast a silence over the audience. People shook their heads, stared at the floor, trying to make sense of it.[/quote]
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 4:24 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
They challenged the notion that a tightening of the rules of engagement would have any effect.

"These are the consequences of sending young men and women to battle, "said Marine Lance Cpl. Vincent Emanuele.

Emanuele testified to mishandling of corpses saying when bodies were seen on the road, standard procedure was to drive over and smash them or if so inclined, take souvenir photographs. One picture of a decomposed body, ended up as a screen saver.

Perry O'Brien, a medic in Afghanistan, said during an interview, that

Bodies of dead civilians were used as practice cadavers for medics.

The sensational testimony cast a silence over the audience. People shook their heads, stared at the floor, trying to make sense of it.
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Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 4:34 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
I agree. he is not fighting for my freedom he is fighting the illegal Bush war. He should be fighting Bush the biggist terrorist recruitor in the world. And he also doesn't have a choice so it wouldn't matter if he did bitch or whine. And he has also been trained not to think for himself but to do what he is told. That is the only reason I support the soldiers. Some soldiers do have the courage to speak out and they did speak out in Washington in March of the year....Again it was called "The Winter Soldiers Story" Iraqi Vets speak out against the war.
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Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 4:51 PM CST
How do say all this Opal Beuaty? Iraq has become a free paradise on earth because of the Bushney,s occupation! They asked for the raping thing them selves... I mean let us say they asked for it.....or let us assume they asked for it......or..........What ever!!laugh

Why dont people give this president tons of salt crackers insted of all this dissatisfaction? He loves salt crackers!

How many people have Allready... I am sorry are allready killed in the poor raped country? What are they killed for ? And for whom? When enough is enough? Shame on all those damn politicians whom brrought this catastrofy upon all of us! May they get f...ked by an angry african male elefant!

People say the first kill is always the most difficult one and then little by little it feels normal moping

This is all which shows the necessaity or the fairness of war in Iraq barfing God damn fu..g war mongers should be jailed for ever!

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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 4:59 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
I agree. he is not fighting for my freedom he is fighting the illegal Bush war. He should be fighting Bush the biggist terrorist recruitor in the world. And he also doesn't have a choice so it wouldn't matter if he did bitch or whine. And he has also been trained not to think for himself but to do what he is told. That is the only reason I support the soldiers. Some soldiers do have the courage to speak out and they did speak out in Washington in March of the year....Again it was called "The Winter Soldiers Story" Iraqi Vets speak out against the war.


Maybe the terrorist recruited will congregate in Worschester County rolling on the floor laughing
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