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Obama for President.....The Fifth!

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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 16, 2008, 10:10 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Yeah......thats the only bad thing a bout Obama..........Imagine being related to THAT! Good Obama has developed a lot since the roots were shared with Ceheny family! The differneces is seen so perfectly!

Just imagine what Obama,s mom has experienced with some of the Bushney likes when she had a kid with a black man!


I can see were are playing nasty again.......far lefters.........cannot live with them and don't want to live with them either.

That is joke....a take off on a old American phrase...so please don't take it pesonally
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 16, 2008, 10:21 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Or they will just ask him to shut up and follow the rule of law



You know us Bushney types....we just wing it and make the laws up as we go along..........not that it has not been the Bushney types that have been preaching rule of law since 9/11 and noone on planet earth has heard the message.
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 3:50 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
What Mr Carter is trying to proof is the very fact a bout it is possible to talk with any body and the matter of: "We dont deal with terrorists" is not always a good methode of solving the problems in this troubled world any more!

There is no more necessary or wise at all just cutting off any kind of real connections with people from any side of the conflict in the middle east....and right or wrong more than 70 procent of palestinians voted for Hamas! What is this : "We are not talking to them" good for any way?

They are the ones sending rockets yeah but they do it every time israelies bombing them as well and this is just a real evil cirkle of violence a gain and a gain! If Isrelies expecting palestinians all just say "oak Bush and Olmert think those we killed has deserved to be killed........and they MUST think exactly as we think"..... this policy will not work ,ever !

People in the occupied teritories have sufferede for years and years and of course their Bitterness making them going toward this Hamas thing(Exactly as Bittered ones in your country by the way go toward Hagee likes).

Give them better life opportunities and they will automatichally going to leave radical gruops! Even the IRA came down and became a part of policy in Ireland for god sake! Arafat shaked hands with Robin and there was a good periode of peace in the area a very movement which was actually began with Jimmy Carter during the meeetings of Camp David some years before that and complitted by Bill Clinton!

Obviously......democrates are better in this kind of creating peacefull soloutions and republicans just acting as warmogers whom want every body Think as they do and if not then they kill them.....Really it is so boring to see this Bush policy a bout a peace soloution in the area when the only thing happening is more bombings and more killings.....and just concidering Abbas as the one Israelies can talk with Really truely Sucks!

Still I think you as an american should feel really disgussed and offended when this stupied israeli prime minister of wars....which he can not win even ,very similar to his Master,pres. Bush denies to talk with a former president of your country!

This shows very clear there is some thing seriously wrong with this Olmert and of course with the man whom he is remote controlled from, G.W.Bush! What is Walker actually stands for? It means he Walks from his promisses right?
Your TRUE COLOR shows more with every post you make.
You're the precise Epitome of the Creature Ayn Rand sketched in her Books.
All you do is PUKE over America and don't understand a F""""""""""G Thing.
I feel sorry for people like you.
They're the ABSOLUTE PITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!thumbs down thumbs down thumbs down
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 5:31 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Actually Condelezza Rice , Bush or his look alikes have actually No Realtion ships in the region with any body than Ehud Olmert and his cabinate and Abbas is just a Clown whom tries to show some kind of influence in the occupied territories which he have not...... A really sad truth but the Truth actually!

Rice even by travelling to the region making a full of her self under the circumstinces those so called peace talkings are talked! My humble oponion a gain but god knows I am right!

If people are bittered......they know whom to blame and particulary in Old cultures they Really know! Ask ant man or woman or a child in the occupied territotories why they are frustrated and bittered and they tell you clearly and ask them what they want and they tell you clearly as well TT!

This is the main differnece between old cultures and new ones ! The Bushney,s have not a clue a bout matters as this one but what can they do? They are the Bushney,s and they never ever now better!

In old cultures Bitter ones know exactly what their problems are all a bout and whom to blame and they are actually very precise to know!

In new cultures as the american one....well the matter is some how more complicated....When people are Bittered in the begining there is a lot confusion a bout whom to blame and it takes time before they know as well !


What I deduced from this: They are bitter too. laugh
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 5:42 AM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
Your TRUE COLOR shows more with every post you make.
You're the precise Epitome of the Creature Ayn Rand sketched in her Books.
All you do is PUKE over America and don't understand a F""""""""""G Thing.
I feel sorry for people like you.
They're the ABSOLUTE PITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh I don't know.....it sounds to me like a good shot at analysis of the situation. One thing he says is surely true.....you don't make peace with your friends you make peace with your enemies....which involves talking to them. This happens, of course, when you finally accept that bombing them to bits doesn't work.

Keep up the good work, Hot Dude....wave
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:22 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
Oh I don't know.....it sounds to me like a good shot at analysis of the situation. One thing he says is surely true.....you don't make peace with your friends you make peace with your enemies....which involves talking to them. This happens, of course, when you finally accept that bombing them to bits doesn't work.

Keep up the good work, Hot Dude....


How do you make peace, when the negotiation and the talks are coming from so many sources......and many of the sources have
no aurthority to sign or do anything?

Obama is not a "given"at this point. Meaning he is not already crowned to be our next President. By Jimmy doing his thing with
these Hamas leaders that he has knows for long time......that he
never told us about in the past.......he undermining Bush and
C. Rice and what they have trying to do for the last 4 years.

There are even Moderate Dem that are upset with this.
If I was Bush...I would consider revoking his passport.....
let him land in Atlanta to go back to the peanut farm after his
Hamas meeting and then forcing him out the country. Bush has some legal right to do that by the way. Read our laws on sedition sometime.
Those could be extended to the Senate flip floppers as well.

Critizing our Administration is one thing. Shucks everyone is free
to do that and does that. Taking its role and position of it on the international stage is quiet a different matter.

If say Obama or Hillary get elected.......and are in the middle of negotiations on the Middle East...you think that they would be happy if GWB says in the middle of them....I am going to meet with my old friend Abbas?

Want to hear some complaining.......either would be raising a storm
of it. That is what the Dem have set into motion here with the
Polisi visit to Syria and Carter meeting with Hamas. A never ending
cycle of political parties criss crossing the negotiation process.
I am sorry but I don't think that you will get Middle East peace this
way.
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:28 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
How do you make peace, when the negotiation and the talks are coming from so many sources......and many of the sources have
no aurthority to sign or do anything?

Obama is not a "given"at this point. Meaning he is not already crowned to be our next President. By Jimmy doing his thing with
these Hamas leaders that he has knows for long time......that he
never told us about in the past.......he undermining Bush and
C. Rice and what they have trying to do for the last 4 years.

There are even Moderate Dem that are upset with this.
If I was Bush...I would consider revoking his passport.....
let him land in Atlanta to go back to the peanut farm after his
Hamas meeting and then forcing him out the country. Bush has some legal right to do that by the way. Read our laws on sedition sometime.
Those could be extended to the Senate flip floppers as well.

Critizing our Administration is one thing. Shucks everyone is free
to do that and does that. Taking its role and position of it on the international stage is quiet a different matter.

If say Obama or Hillary get elected.......and are in the middle of negotiations on the Middle East...you think that they would be happy if GWB says in the middle of them....I am going to meet with my old friend Abbas?

Want to hear some complaining.......either would be raising a storm
of it. That is what the Dem have set into motion here with the
Polisi visit to Syria and Carter meeting with Hamas. A never ending
cycle of political parties criss crossing the negotiation process.
I am sorry but I don't think that you will get Middle East peace this
way.


Some points:

Whatever about the detail of your sedition laws....I thought the US was a democracy.

Jimmy Carter is a private citizen - his agenda is personal and so is his credibility. When Bush is in the same position his impact will depend on his credibility...I won't hold my breath.

What Bush and Rice have allegedly been trying to do in mideast for last four years is an interesting question.

Dude's point stands....it is not up to the Israelis or the US to decide who their opponents put forward to represent their interests. It has been tried for years by Israel and look where we are now. Northern Ireland went nowhere until the British started talking to the people they didn't want to talk to.



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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:37 AM CST
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:39 AM CST
Two green bottles singing on the wall.....
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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:40 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
Two green bottles singing on the wall.....



giggle.......... shamrock.......... shamrock ............dance
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:49 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
One dumb ass already got a Nobel Prize. That's one too many ~ If he were to get it, the only reason would be as a poke a finger in the eye of the United States.

A Dumb ass hah?

Perhaps they shpuld give the price to "The man" him self whose desicions has created a world hunger epidemy beside a lot other horrible happenings which one by one should cost him power and jail sentences as well! I mean your Bush of course rolling on the floor laughing
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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:51 AM CST
wine gotta hand it to all of you, this thread has been around longer and more lengthy than the God thread, and we know more about God....angel
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:53 AM CST
prncss4someone wrote:
gotta hand it to all of you, this thread has been around longer and more lengthy than the God thread, and we know more about God....


I don't come here much but I have to give the Dude the CS "Enthusiastic persistence in the face of extreme provocation" award

laugh
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:54 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
You know us Bushney types....we just wing it and make the laws up as we go along..........not that it has not been the Bushney types that have been preaching rule of law since 9/11 and noone on planet earth has heard the message.

Yeah exactly......The main problem of them all is When The Bushney,s preaching Rule of Law for a whole planet! That is really the Very root of the situation !
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opalbeauty
Worcester County USA
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:54 AM CST
prncss4someone wrote:
gotta hand it to all of you, this thread has been around longer and more lengthy than the God thread, and we know more about God....


Did you figure out if he/she/it exist? Last time I visited that thread they were still debating.
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:56 AM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
Did you figure out if he/she/it exist? Last time I visited that thread they were still debating.


No, she is a myth.....they just enjoy the debate! lol
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:56 AM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
Your TRUE COLOR shows more with every post you make.
You're the precise Epitome of the Creature Ayn Rand sketched in her Books.
All you do is PUKE over America and don't understand a F""""""""""G Thing.
I feel sorry for people like you.
They're the ABSOLUTE PITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A gain you are playing with yourr Beretta 950 B and understanding my posts as puking over America Conrad dude!

Becareful playing too much with guns can make one Wetting the bed laugh
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:57 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
Oh I don't know.....it sounds to me like a good shot at analysis of the situation. One thing he says is surely true.....you don't make peace with your friends you make peace with your enemies....which involves talking to them. This happens, of course, when you finally accept that bombing them to bits doesn't work.

Keep up the good work, Hot Dude....
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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:58 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
I don't come here much but I have to give the Dude the CS "Enthusiastic persistence in the face of extreme provocation" award





might even be eligible for the purple heart as well!purple_heart
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 17, 2008, 7:58 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Yeah exactly......The main problem of them all is When The Bushney,s preaching Rule of Law for a whole planet! That is really the Very root of the situation !


Not so much Rule of Law as Rule of Power. We have the solution so this is it and we will impose it even if you think it is garbage! Also found in some dictionaries under the heading of Arrogance or Stupidity
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