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Obama for President.....The Fifth!

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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 11:02 AM CST
charliez26 wrote:
like everyones says the states usa is going to hell! with all this stuff and giveing immagrants all these new rights and then going to pay them in mexico to help so they would stay and then let them validate their passport visa anytime unlimited free schools im headed for canada lol


What if we had a way to limit the number of immigrants coming into the country?...answer there the fence.

Had a way to make them legal? Had a way to get them employed?
Had a way to get them on the road to a naturalized citizenship?

AND

Could slowly press out illegal aliens as we did? It might 10-15 years here. But doable. What if? Still headed to Canada?
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Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 11:22 AM CST
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Dont forget please to give your vote.......

Is it not fabulous that no matter whom we are ......all we have is one single Vote in time of election?

November 08 will be differnet.....there will no be deceiving a whole nation whose votes were "stolen" by the power of Fear and people will be allowed to see the result of thier true votes Hopefully ! This time there will no be any "president" whom will not support his own Vice president because of some stupied disagreement and this time....there will not be humiliating sceans a bout Judges deciding whom won and setting the popular votes aside with no shame what so ever!

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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 11:25 AM CST
HIllary and Barak are in western PA...coal country.

To get the coal vote......all either one has to say is three words

I support gasification.

Maybe a little louder and with some definition and how much they support it. But the one that does. Wins the coal vote. So why don't they?

Because environmentals don't like the process of converting coal into
liquid gas. The Dem and the far left Dems have them so locked into
environmental positions.....that they cannot.

Barak comes to small town PA...see the unemployment......and knows that gasification plants will bring more coal out of the ground and give them employment. Instead of addressing the issue.....he tells the world that as they lose thier jobs....they cling to the Bible and to guns.
All he needs to do to get them jobs....is say and follow up if President

I support gasification

Instead we have public debate on small town guns and religion. Hillary is no better. She knows the issue well also. Rather running a commercial saying

I support gasification

She runs a commercial with PA voters and how they feel about Barak
comments.

The Rep should steal the issue on them both and the Dems. I hope they do. It sends the message that we can free from foreign oil. and can be energy independant.

Barak keeps saying "I want to talk the issues" and they aren't.

Here is a issue and a solution
please talk
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 1:32 PM CST
Dude,

Been meaning to ask you and the other foreign Obama supporters a question.

Let us say Obama get elected. Are you and the other foreign Obama supported going to drop your foreign citizenships and become US?
Or even get dual citizenships? Sign up for the citizenship lottreys?

Are you going to move here and take part in our great adventure in
democracy and freedom being led by the man you feel should be the President of the United States?

The reason I am asking is this.

I have alot of respect for a migrant slipping across our southern border
to feed his family. If has made the trip up thru Central America....many riding on a train they call the 'beast'. If so, he has endured dangers, deaths, robbery, and abuse to get here. So that guy and his family if he brings them, I can and do respect. He has made a decision and likely paid a real price to be here. When he gets here, he is going to work....and not work easy or some white collar job. So again he has my respect. OK?

Where as many foriegn parties that in the post and blogging on our
election and the canidadates. I don't get the feeling that they are willing to cut with their home country....and join us here. Sure maybe to see Disney or a city. But to actually sell out and move to the US?
I live in Central Florida...we have so many expat from Britian here.
Nearly every restraunt needs to sell fish and chips to survive. So please don't tell me that is not done.

Lastly with Obama in the Presidency, you would think that far left from around the world would want to flock here. There is going to be great work opportunities for far left here. There is a those SES jobs, asstance pastor at the Trinity Church, and all the media will be hiring
far left writers/anchors/reporters. Not a problem of employment and
getting sponsored.

So Dude.....going to fly a little red white and blue over your head, if Obama gets elected?

As for me...I could care less if you, Lush and Fallingman and others make the trip....I have always said the more the merrier.......but it does go to the far left motives in these postings and blogs.

I was going to mention some of the negatives of being a American these days, but with Obama elected...I am sure those will end soon next year.... so we don't need to go there.
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 2:10 PM CST
I guess J. Carter doesnot have as much pull with Hamas as he says.

Hamas suicide bombers attacked a Isrealis crossing point in Gaza.....16 injured.

I thought that it might go week. I was wrong. He was not even out of town before the first attack came.

Hmmmm..........guess this kind of knicks J. Carter chances at being Barak Obama foreign adviser and peace maker like H. Kissinger was for R. Nixon. Who is next on the short list Barak?

I have an idea...I know a guy that is headed into retirement......has perfect credientials for the job......just got a $2m new home to bring them in......for conferencing and such. Why not Rev. Wright?
And he can use B. Ayers as a number two man. What a combination.
Bill can show them new bomb building methods and Rev. Wright can give them better hate America lines.

I am getting tired of the America is the great Satan....and Down with America.....and Death to America. Rev. Wright can give them some of his new stuff. And B. Ayers as a number two? Man....he has got the floor plans to many US Federal Gov't buildings. He can get and give them stuff that goes BANG bigger.

Shucks sound like you got it covered. I will keep looking for Barak, I know your heart is in the right place.
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Indyfella
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Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 3:56 PM CST

I saw a thread today that brought the following to mind. I don't want to wreck the thread for anyone, so I won't post the following there (since they're having so much fun...maybe just maybe, the following is why Blaire felt a bond with Bush:

IS THE WEST JUST TRYING TO LOOK WEAK?

It seems that for every little shove the Islamic fascists and radical Muslims deliver to the western world, we respond by looking earnestly for yet another way we can show weakness and a willingness to capitulate. While the Iranians are parading 15 British sailors and Marines in front of the Arab media, we learn that the European Union has a nifty little rule in place designed to prevent angering Muslims.

The London Daily Telegraph has now revealed the existence of a classified handbook for EU diplomat types that encourages governments and the European media to avoid using phrases that might (gasp!) offend Muslims when referring to terrorism. The EU handbook suggests banning words like "jihad", "Islamic" or "fundamentalist."

Yup .. that's right. It is now officially improper in Europe to refer to an Islamic terrorist as an Islamic terrorist. Never mind the fact that virtually every terrorist operating in the world today is a Muslim ... and never mind that the wonderful, peaceful, serene, nonviolent, passive, tranquil, placid, laid-back, loving religion of Islam virtually relies on terrorism as it's chief foreign policy tool. We certainly don't want to offend these people now, do we? So the EU handbook on how to talk about terrorism without offending the people responsible for the terrorism tells us that we might want to give consideration to the phrase "terrorists who abusively invoke Islam."

Screw that.

Islam is a religion of hate and violence ... and so it shall remain until we see Muslims everywhere in the world openly and loudly standing up to these violent Islamic fascists and their apologists like the Council on American Islamic Relations. CAIR has never issued a blanket repudiation of the use of violence and terrorist tactics on the part of Islamic groups. I fully realize that there are Muslims everywhere who hate the violence and hatred brought to us by the jihadists as much as we do .... but until they are as loud in their condemnation of terrorism as the jihadists are in their threats to the West ... Islam will be known by the actions of the radicals, not of the peaceful.

In the meantime, look around for an example of the Western world standing up to the Islamic goons. The City of Minneapolis suggests a light signal system on its taxis to warn customers of which Muslim cab drivers will transport passengers carrying alcohol, and which will not. Target stores jumps through its own rear end to find a way to accommodate Muslim cashiers at its stores who refuse to ring up items containing pork. A British school changes the name of the "Three Little Pigs" to the "Three Little Puppies." Today's Daily Mail from London reports on a study by the Department for Education and Skills. British teachers, it seems, are not teaching the Holocaust in British schools. Some teachers are afraid that Muslim pupils might react badly in class.
Everywhere you look you see capitulation. From supermarket check-out counters to the halls of the U.S. Congress. This capitulation is seen by Islamic fascists as nothing less than signs of weakness. It emboldens them, and weakens us. You do the math. Where does this lead?

Courtesy of Boortz

PS: Fortunately, they're closer to your shores than ours. Maybe that's why ya'll are sucking up so much.


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Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 4:21 PM CST
I miss hotdanish single guy...this thread does not move as fast without him. Indy, you know you miss him today...where could he be?
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 4:44 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
I miss danish single guy...this thread does not move as fast without him. Indy, you know you miss him today...where could he be?



He's getting fitted for some of those suicide bomb jackets so popular in Iraq. rolling on the floor laughing
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anjel
tempe, Arizona USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 6:36 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Pure entertainment only. I love to seem them damn foreigners get their undies in a bunch.
Besides, my candidate isn't in the race.


How did I know that.......
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anjel
tempe, Arizona USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 6:45 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Just a little info.

In the last 24 hours in Chicago, IL...there have 20 murders.....in one day time!

My little community of 40,000 in Central Florida has 8.................in 365 days of day last year!

Maybe in comparing the the difference crime between big city, mid city, small town and rural................we can determine if Rev. Wright and his
enthincentric approach to blacks and to religion is really a effective thing.

Barak followed said after his bitterness comment...."I know this is true these small town people are bitter." If so why is our rate of homicides...when adjusted to population size......far less.......that of the major cities like Chicago? Because across the board crimes rate and serious crimes in rural, in small town, and mid town America....much less.

If religion plays a effective role in society, surely it can be measured in part by crime rates and violent crime rate. Where a positive and joy filled message that is often being preached in the smaller communities of America.......seems to me to have a positive impact on our serious crimes rates. Where a message like Rev. Wright is being preached,
you get 20 murders in a day's time.

Barak comes to us after sitting for 20 years in Rev. Wright Church, after attending the million man march (which I have no problem with),
fully knowing these crime rates and thier differences....between big and small. He is an intelligent man.....he saw the figures when he was on the IL Congress.....he was a Defense Attroney in Chicago.

Yet now when he gets to a large city (SF) venue......where he needs to have voter identity....he spins out 'small city folk are bitter'. He knows that is the assumpting in big cities....that small town is bitter as they are. The point is that the crime stats don't back up the statement.

So this does lead to crediblity issues in my mind. Crime data can and is intrepretted in just about every imagined manner today. But you cannot make assumptions about faith and bitterness from Big City/LittleCity ...and tell people.....they are true, unless you have some data to back it up. Either you are being misinformed or being deceptive. As a canidadate for Presidency.....neither is good.


1. where in Chicago Illinois were 20 people murdered?????

2. what is the name of the city you live in (or "little community") Chicago is not a little community by faaaar.... You should compare Chicago to LA..... see how those numbers compare...

Even my 4 yr old knows you can't compare apples to oranges.

And tell me were you found these stats.....Because I am pretty good at research and I dont see where there has been 20 murders in 24hrs in Chicago.
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anjel
tempe, Arizona USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 6:49 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
He's getting fitted for some of those suicide bomb jackets so popular in Iraq .


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

you are going to hell Indy. lol
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 8:59 PM CST
Go to://clevelandoh.areaconnect/crime1/htm
this is a crime rate comparison site. you can bring up the crime rate for any city USA here. 2006 figures.

This is where I found the info on the shooting in Chicago earliery today. They have changed the article from this morning when I saw it.

Go to: http://cbs2chicago.com/local/shootings.across.city/2.7023735.html

This morning when I first read it ......was '20 Murders in 12 Hours'
They revised the article......now is '4 dead and over 20 wounded'.
It happens, they have a hard time getting the info straight on the copy desk some times.......

And go to for historical data:

"FBI Murder Rates in Major Cities" dated
Go to:www.highbeam.com/doc/1p2-7456694.html
and
"Violent Crimes Rate Rising" 2006
Go to:http://www.csudh.edu/dearhabermas/crimerates01.htm

Point of the comment was that Barak comes into small town USA, Tell us we are bitter....but our crime rates are lower than big city...and historically they have been. If we were as bitter as these big cities, our murder rates and crime rates would be comparable.

You say this is not apple and apples. Barak is running for President of the entire country. A death in small town is just as bad a death in big town. That right there makes it apples and apples.

But also this. Barak made the comment in big city about small town.
So seem if someone mixed his apples and oranges here, maybe it is Barak?

I live south of Orlando. St. Cloud Fl......we had 8 murders last year(2007). And we annexed in a lot of new homes.

Take St. Cloud 8/40000 = .0001777 that is this small town murder rate (2007).....2006 we did not have a murder our rate was 0% for 2006. Compare that to some big cities murder rates at the comparison site. Chicago 2006 murder rate was 16.4% per 100,000
Average murder rate in the country was 7.0 per 100,000 (2006)

To be honest with you. Small town crime rates have increased in the last 5 years. But still they are less than major city. Also this kind of data, can be found in many places on the net. How accurate and how
well maintained is anyones guess.
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Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 9:01 PM CST
confused What good would it do for him to be the fifth president? You people ask silly stuff sometimes!confused
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anjel
tempe, Arizona USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 9:11 PM CST
yeh, i knew that wasnt accurate, like i said, i am rom there, and work for the washingtom post.....and my point is you can't compare chicago's crime rate to that of a small town in florida.... you can, however compare your town's crime rate to that of a small town in illinois.
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anjel
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Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 9:13 PM CST
RillyNiceGuy wrote:
What good would it do for him to be the fifth president? You people ask silly stuff sometimes!


um, i think this is the 5th thread hun.....
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 11:44 PM CST
anjel wrote:
you are going to hell Indy. lol



Amazingling, I've been told to go to hell before... The crosses I bare (or is that bear) ~laugh
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 19, 2008, 11:49 PM CST
anjel wrote:
yeh, i knew that wasnt accurate, like i said, i am rom there, and work for the washingtom post.....and my point is you can't compare chicago's crime rate to that of a small town in florida.... you can, however compare your town's crime rate to that of a small town in illinois.


However, 25 Americans are killed by illegals in the country every day.... (per boortz). I'm not sure I'm seeing a lot of outrage about that. Multiply that out times 5 years.. professor
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 1:51 AM CST
anjel wrote:
yeh, i knew that wasnt accurate, like i said, i am rom there, and work for the washingtom post.....and my point is you can't compare chicago's crime rate to that of a small town in florida.... you can, however compare your town's crime rate to that of a small town in illinois.


rates are rates...at the site they take them to the ____ per 100,000

it all evens out out.

Sorry on the bad lead story. I grapped the title of the bad piece.

But still could read like this: 4 Murder and over 20 Attempted Murders
in Chicago

What is special or different about the murder rate of a big city to a
small city murder rate? Is still the same kind of violent act? Yes?

Nothing special about a murder rates, they are one in same.
Only small town America has smaller one.




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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 3:57 AM CST
anjel wrote:
actually a recent sum of all the polls:

Poll Date McCain (R) Obama (D) Spread

Avg 04/07 to 04/17 - 45.0% 45.7% Obama +0.7%

(looks like they both have some friends out there)Poll Date McCain (R) Clinton (D) Spread

Avg 04/07 to 04/17 - 46.0% 44.7% McCain +1.3% Poll Date Obama Clinton Spread

Avg 04/07 to 04/17 - 49.2 40.3 Obama +8.9

(I guess obama has more friends than Mrs. Clinton)http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.htmlObama 08 ;)
yay
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 4:06 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Picture this .....assume the poles are rgiht......with 90% decided it is a dead even between McCain and Obama. Only 10% to decide. Unless something major happens and that thin difference remains untill Nov. 4th...this thing could decided by one of the countries thinest margins of victory in modern times. They will fight for every vote after the conventions......knowing this.

you really mean that majority of amerian vote still suffering from masse hallucination and are force to vote for some bdy they know is just a continuation of the worse presidency periode in recent history?

I think you are wrong and the only major happening which can change a soon real difference will be a dsiaster and that disater will only make people voting McCain in only if they dont figur out whom to blame being the creator of the disaster.

I know the Bushney,s do what ever they can now on days to provocate disaters a gainst America unfortunatily....but even that may not help republicans this time.

I notice a kind of engagement from americans in the matter of presidency as never before...and engaged people are not easy to deceive

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