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Obama for President.....The Fifth!

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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 4:09 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
I have to admit getting a 'endorsement' from a political opponet in the middle of run for the nomination.....seems a little weird to me. But this
has been a very weird primary for the Dems. Maybe Hillary is going
for the uncommited and totally confused Dem voter block at this point.:-)

Here is the problem that Obama has. He is getting painted in the primaries by the Dem themsleves as being 'far left'. Rep are not doing this to him......well a little......but the Dem are confirming it, to thier own voters.

He gets the nomination......and now those mid road Dem get to make
another decision in the final election.....between a moderate Rep or a
confrimed far left Dem. As much as the rest of the world likes to feel that far left rules there and here. I am sorry here....mid road and moderate is still massives block of voters here. Mid Road Dem and Mid
Rep agree in so many major issues the polling tells us. It going to be hard for a far left to cut into it. But we will know Nov.

Polling even prior to the Wright, Ayers and the bitterness comments
said that 30% of Hillary voters could vote for McCain. My bet now it is increased a lot. That is the only way McCain could have made the jumb to be even with him.....he is beginning to get disatisfied Hillary voters.

Also the Rep party is reconcilating right now. The far right is pretty quiet and the Christian block seems OK with him. So going to be interesting! and a very tight race! is my prediction!


Any news a bout McCains medical records still? grin
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 4:18 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
I have to admit getting a 'endorsement' from a political opponet in the middle of run for the nomination.....seems a little weird to me. But this
has been a very weird primary for the Dems. Maybe Hillary is going
for the uncommited and totally confused Dem voter block at this point.:-)

Here is the problem that Obama has. He is getting painted in the primaries by the Dem themsleves as being 'far left'. Rep are not doing this to him......well a little......but the Dem are confirming it, to thier own voters.

He gets the nomination......and now those mid road Dem get to make
another decision in the final election.....between a moderate Rep or a
confrimed far left Dem. As much as the rest of the world likes to feel that far left rules there and here. I am sorry here....mid road and moderate is still massives block of voters here. Mid Road Dem and Mid
Rep agree in so many major issues the polling tells us. It going to be hard for a far left to cut into it. But we will know Nov.

Polling even prior to the Wright, Ayers and the bitterness comments
said that 30% of Hillary voters could vote for McCain. My bet now it is increased a lot. That is the only way McCain could have made the jumb to be even with him.....he is beginning to get disatisfied Hillary voters.

Also the Rep party is reconcilating right now. The far right is pretty quiet and the Christian block seems OK with him. So going to be interesting! and a very tight race! is my prediction!


Actually This far Right whom is the most frightening part of the whole repulican system are the ones whom standing ready to take the lead and they just wait for McCain to take over and then we will all hear and se and feel how "quiet" they are !

The far right are always recomended to keep quiet and they dont tell much befroe they are on charge and then they will tell a lot more!

It is like they are recomended to do as they want but still not telling what ideology they are a supporter of or what president they support!

Really scarey if the far right has choosed to keep quiet until the race is over.they know they are not wanted amoung huge majority of american people and when and if McCain wins.....then we wil all see!

Christian block are ok with him as well.not when Hagee and Parsley love him as the next presidnet and beside now when the Pope has promissed to cover their ass if there wil be more wars!

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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 4:25 AM CST
Conrad73 wrote:
Just got back from Geneva!!
Had to visit the Federal Technical Institute down there.
Had to slap the Bejesus out of the ADMin down there,seems some Idiot gave OwlGore an Honorary Doctor's degree.
Sure didn't dare do the SHIT here in Zurich.


They are not all like you in Switserland Conrad and thanks god for that!
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 4:27 AM CST
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 4:30 AM CST
C'mon people, time for a lunch break....burger burger burger pizza pizza pouring a drink


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ttom500
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 4:45 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
you really mean that majority of amerian vote still suffering from masse hallucination and are force to vote for some bdy they know is just a continuation of the worse presidency periode in recent history?

I think you are wrong and the only major happening which can change a soon real difference will be a dsiaster and that disater will only make people voting McCain in only if they dont figur out whom to blame being the creator of the disaster.

I know the Bushney,s do what ever they can now on days to provocate disaters a gainst America unfortunatily....but even that may not help republicans this time.

I notice a kind of engagement from americans in the matter of presidency as never before...and engaged people are not easy to deceive


Sorry Dude....that what the present polls are. And as more disatisfied
mid road Hilly voters become the more they will move to moderate McCain......ouch for Obama. How do you explain McCain pulling even with him in such a short time?

And as for being deceptive.......well that is where he is getting clobbered. On crediblity. People don't believe that he had not heard
Rev. Wright positions in 20 years in a pew of the Trinity Church. They don't believe the story on B. Ayers. They are not accepting the bitterness story in small town US. Tainting of white women as being racists.

And the far left, as it spins....does not help him here. Look what you said...."it will take a major diasaster"......While it might happen, and the far left will blame the American Administation for it. How do you associate a gov't causing say....an earthquake? a volcano? tsumia? a plane crash? or a suicide bomber? They don't.

That makes the group, he comes from and represents deceptive. What other decision can the American public come to? Eventually (even as complicated as it is) the the truth gets understood.....the World Trade Center buildings failed because planes flew into them, AIDs is a diease from primates in Africa, the writers of the Constitution did not place white DNA in the document, the Oklahoma City Bombing was done by Timothy M. and on here........and NONE of them was or is a Gov't plot against the people of the United States.........when you support and declare such falsehoods.......pretty easy to suspect the canidate of that group.....as being deceptive as well. That is where Obama is today. Defending the far left and its extreme views of Wright, Ayers, Davis and lastly his own left leaning views

American public is good at detecting such deceptions. That is why we have juries of our peers here. We trust the American people to figure
out such.

Lastly Dude.......just saying that Americans have 'mass delusions' goes to prove the point of far left deception and distortion. And there is no force applied to persons voting in the US....American's vote freely and according to their conscience. Unlike some other countries of the world.
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ttom500
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 4:49 AM CST
prncss4someone wrote:
C'mon people, time for a lunch break....


Make mine burger with American cheese please, and mustard and ketchup. :-)
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:08 AM CST


TT.............
Actually United states of America is a good contry to live in for many immigrants and specially those whom are from less developed countries with not many opportunities in their own land.

Immigrating to America from Europe is not that bad but still is best for people whom are educated as doctors for example so they can make more money than they do in Europe. But at the same time living in America means you have to work many hours and you will not have as much holiday or benefits as pension savings and help from the unions as we enjoy here in Europe if the employer becomes an ass hole ! and the matter of a universal health care system and fee education is also some thing which is some how silly to leave. Life is good here so if some Europeans moving there it will mostly be because of lost for adventure.

I have personally had several opportunities to move to US legally and work there but I have said no and rather live here in Europe and visiting my loved ones over there once in a while.

It is really interesting you keep calling me a far left and that is a reason those whom know a bout policy can see you have no idea what far left is TT laugh

But lets say some body offers me a job in the states I will not be able to say no to and I choose to take the challenge and coming over and using my abilities to make America even stronger. I will definately saying yes to that job offer if there is a president called Barack Obama and I will proudly being a great part of new America and I will proudly serve the president as well. Will participate in the matter of policy as it is a duty for any one whom lives there and I will proudly learning a bout american constitution and american history and wil do my best becoming better in english and so on. '

But really that job offer must be really some thing you know? It is absoloutely silly to move from here to America still! there is not much time for family being to gether over there because of the huge distances between work and home and around 2 weeks of vacation a year is not some thing I really dream a bout or wnat to accept instead of 6 weeks of vacation a year here in Denmark and beside all the fabulous places near by I can visit during my vacation. Europe is really great......you should take a look some times TT.

Beside the chances of really loosing every thing you own if you get a serious sickness and ending hoemless are really great in America and I dont like to live sorounded by horrible risks!

Obama will make a lot positive toward a better social system in your country but still as he has mentioned it before the results will begin to show in the end of his first turm because the assignement is so huge!

I dont think you must be afraid of every leftist from all Europe will move to us and becoming citizen! It wil never be like that and people have their own lives here in Europe and we are not sturving at all I promise you !

Yeah America under presdency of a man like Obama is absloutely a fabulous country to live in !

But oak i may admit if some day a good girl whom is a great match for me falls in love with me and me in her...........then I will not be very strict to demand we have to tay here! We will live there we both are agree to live in! Denmark is much more family friendly country still and I will do my best making her understand that as well !



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ttom500
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:09 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Actually This far Right whom is the most frightening part of the whole repulican system are the ones whom standing ready to take the lead and they just wait for McCain to take over and then we will all hear and se and feel how "quiet" they are !

The far right are always recomended to keep quiet and they dont tell much befroe they are on charge and then they will tell a lot more!

It is like they are recomended to do as they want but still not telling what ideology they are a supporter of or what president they support!

Really scarey if the far right has choosed to keep quiet until the race is over.they know they are not wanted amoung huge majority of american people and when and if McCain wins.....then we wil all see!

Christian block are ok with him as well.not when Hagee and Parsley love him as the next presidnet and beside now when the Pope has promissed to cover their ass if there wil be more wars!


In a way I agree here. Extreme and violence from either fringe is wrong. But the talking far right .....the Limbaughs and such....have just much 'right' to thier opinions as the talking far left.

McCain is not connected to them Dude. That is why they fought his nomination so hard. Of all the Rep primary canidadate, McCain is the most moderate and most central.

Taking on the Pope? You know the thing I noticed during the Pope visit here.....was the respect, love and open fellowship community
of Catholics had...and even with the Jewish people. He had meeting with the sexually abused from the Priest scandle.......he may not have solved thier issues.....but he strongly said it wrong for the Priests to do. He did not distort issue of American policy or foreign programs. He did suggest without saying who....the foreign wars by individual countries was wrong without UN approval.

Compare that to

Rev. Wright and Trinity Church. "G _ _ D _ _ _ The USA." "Aids is a invention of the American Gov't to infect blacks." "The American Gov't is the KKK" "The American Constitution is filled with white DNA"

You tell me which is a honest spiritual relationship of faith, respect and intregrity here with God thru Jesus Christ? It does not take one to be a theological scholar to know.
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:21 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
I guess J. Carter doesnot have as much pull with Hamas as he says.

Hamas suicide bombers attacked a Isrealis crossing point in Gaza.....16 injured.

I thought that it might go week. I was wrong. He was not even out of town before the first attack came.

Hmmmm..........guess this kind of knicks J. Carter chances at being Barak Obama foreign adviser and peace maker like H. Kissinger was for R. Nixon. Who is next on the short list Barak?

I have an idea...I know a guy that is headed into retirement......has perfect credientials for the job......just got a $2m new home to bring them in......for conferencing and such. Why not Rev. Wright?
And he can use B. Ayers as a number two man. What a combination.
Bill can show them new bomb building methods and Rev. Wright can give them better hate America lines.

I am getting tired of the America is the great Satan....and Down with America.....and Death to America. Rev. Wright can give them some of his new stuff. And B. Ayers as a number two? Man....he has got the floor plans to many US Federal Gov't buildings. He can get and give them stuff that goes BANG bigger.

Shucks sound like you got it covered. I will keep looking for Barak, I know your heart is in the right place.


Carter was not allowed............a sususal under the rules of Bushney,s the War mongers to start any thing any way over there!

Olmert acted as a little stupied kid and denied meeting with him and the desicion made Hamas more angry as well and their meeting with Carter was just symbolic and not much worth it any way.

I am certain if there was a positive reaction to Carters move from the Bushney,s and by that from Olmert...we would all be happy because of two free Israeli solideis whom have been captive for a long time ! Unfortunatily those two are also some of hostijes whom are taken all because of the Bushney,s way of running the House over there.

No sir.........as long as they hit, Hamas hits back as well and he whole ideology the Bushney,s swearing at and that is "Fear" will make Hamas to stop or if We kill a lot of Hamas and specially their leaders then they stop and recognising Israel and all that.is just another miscalculation and not a damn thing than that! How many palestinians Hamas or civiliand has been killed during first of April alone? there is a lot of blood shedding in that area now on days and as told before.....Horrible Leechs can live from blood of dead bodies but they rather want fresh blood and the Bushney,s policy deleivers that for sure.

Every time there is a cease fire some how. Israel comes and bombs poeople........You did not know that right? rolling on the floor laughing

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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:25 AM CST
StressFree wrote:
I miss danish single guy...this thread does not move as fast without him. Indy, you know you miss him today...where could he be?


hi stressfree

I had a lot work to do and was not able to get on line!

good to see you are here my man!
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:28 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
He's getting fitted for some of those suicide bomb jackets so popular in Iraq .

your sense of so called humor Indy is really disgusting some times

What you wrote in here is like I calling you a Facist Pig whom wants Nazies taking over in USA !

I assume you were shaving your head and legs and ass as well to serve Grand lord of KKK over there while you were gone right?barfing
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:31 AM CST
anjel wrote:
1. where in Chicago Illinois were 20 people murdered?????

2. what is the name of the city you live in (or "little community") Chicago is not a little community by faaaar.... You should compare Chicago to LA..... see how those numbers compare...

Even my 4 yr old knows you can't compare apples to oranges.

And tell me were you found these stats.....Because I am pretty good at research and I dont see where there has been 20 murders in 24hrs in Chicago.

Oh yeah Anjel!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give it to him honey yay
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:32 AM CST
anjel wrote:
you are going to hell Indy. lol

Yeah actually he is from Hell some how laugh
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:36 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Go to://clevelandoh.areaconnect/crime1/htm
this is a crime rate comparison site. you can bring up the crime rate for any city USA here. 2006 figures.

This is where I found the info on the shooting in Chicago earliery today. They have changed the article from this morning when I saw it.

Go to: http://cbs2chicago.com/local/shootings.across.city/2.7023735.html

This morning when I first read it ......was '20 Murders in 12 Hours'
They revised the article......now is '4 dead and over 20 wounded'.
It happens, they have a hard time getting the info straight on the copy desk some times.......

And go to for historical data:

"FBI Murder Rates in Major Cities" dated
Go to:www.highbeam.com/doc/1p2-7456694.html
and
"Violent Crimes Rate Rising" 2006
Go to:http://www.csudh.edu/dearhabermas/crimerates01.htm

Point of the comment was that Barak comes into small town USA, Tell us we are bitter....but our crime rates are lower than big city...and historically they have been. If we were as bitter as these big cities, our murder rates and crime rates would be comparable.

You say this is not apple and apples. Barak is running for President of the entire country. A death in small town is just as bad a death in big town. That right there makes it apples and apples.

But also this. Barak made the comment in big city about small town.
So seem if someone mixed his apples and oranges here, maybe it is Barak?

I live south of Orlando. St. Cloud Fl......we had 8 murders last year(2007). And we annexed in a lot of new homes.

Take St. Cloud 8/40000 = .0001777 that is this small town murder rate (2007).....2006 we did not have a murder our rate was 0% for 2006. Compare that to some big cities murder rates at the comparison site. Chicago 2006 murder rate was 16.4% per 100,000
Average murder rate in the country was 7.0 per 100,000 (2006)

To be honest with you. Small town crime rates have increased in the last 5 years. But still they are less than major city. Also this kind of data, can be found in many places on the net. How accurate and how
well maintained is anyones guess.


Yeah Yeah Carl Rove! Now you try your best "beating" one of your best opponents with talking a bout Chicago and stuff like that!Typichal republican style way of debating based on manipulating and a result of not having too much reaonable to talk a bout any way!

Are we really getting out of Ammunition or what TT?laugh
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:47 AM CST

I dont think you must be afraid of every leftist from all Europe will move to us and becoming citizen! It wil never be like that and people have their own lives here in Europe and we are not sturving at all I promise you !

Yeah America under presdency of a man like Obama is absloutely a fabulous country to live in !

But oak i may admit if some day a good girl whom is a great match for me falls in love with me and me in her...........then I will not be very strict to demand we have to tay here! We will live there we both are agree to live in! Denmark is much more family friendly country still and I will do my best making her understand that as well ![/quote]

I can buy that Dude. I call you far left because the canidate you support. I do have a pretty good ide aof far left Dude. I was back in college....when the far left got it start in the US. I remember the Weathermen....and SDS.....because I knew some then. I remember what they did then....and rejected their position. I thought being violent to oppose war is a hypocritical position to take. And it is.

Did you know...that in the US we do not have a statute of limitation on murder? If new evidence was found tomorrow on the weathermen bombings of the 1970s.....that B Ayers could be arrested the following day?

Obvisiouly B. Ayers has become a central figure in this year Presidential campaign. Many gov't around the world, would take advantage of this....fabricate that evidence.....and make the arrest.
Just to further taint the canidadate publically. As much as the far left thinks that the Bushney gov't will do such, I doubt it.

We just had a woman that was convicted of murdering her Marine husband, a couple of years ago with poison. The prosecution reviewed the evidence and the tests of the poison after the cases was closed.
Found that a mistake had been made in the lab tests. She did not
kill him. Many would have covered this up. They had no cause to tell the world that they had made a mistake in the prosecution. They stand to lose millions in wrongful arrest and detention suits. But they did. The woman walked out of jail yesterday.....stands to win a major lawsuit against them.

What I am saying.....there is still a great deal of intregrity in our country. Be it falsely accusing someone or in correcting such a mistake.
Imagine a Rev. Wright in the position of being a prosecutor? Or Attroney General. Had either a wrongful prosecution or a opportuntity to fabricate evidence for political gain. Think that he has the intregirty to do the right thing? With his position of hate for the country...I don't think so.

If that is the kind of man that Barak brings with him.......into power........not sure the living here is going to be so pleasant or great.
That is why these past associations get looked at so criticially. They tell us what kind of person, a President will bring into power with him.
This is about being just and fair. Obama might very well be both of those. But the people he has associated with have not been.
But nice to hear that you would consider making the US home and to fly the red, white and blue for a time.
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:55 AM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Yeah Yeah Carl Rove! Now you try your best "beating" one of your best opponents with talking a bout Chicago and stuff like that!Typichal republican style way of debating based on manipulating and a result of not having too much reaonable to talk a bout any way!

Are we really getting out of Ammunition or what TT?


Go to the site....run the comparison yourself. Pick any big city and compare it to some small cities USA.

The point is the if we in Small town USA were as bitter as Barak says.....would our murder rate be as high as the major cities rates?

Just goes to show that Barak was spinning or misinformed on bitterness in Small town USA. He has seen this data, I am almost sure.
Come into our media here all the time. So if he's seen it, and makes a such a state of fabrication.....says what?...I will let you draw your own conclusions.

With Barak, his associations and the far left there is plenty of ammunition. One just has to sort thru the BS to find the truth and honesty....then show it. The rest happens naturally.
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 5:55 AM CST
Indyfella.........

There is hatered and violence in every relegion in deed and wise men never promoting peopl becoming radical by keep irritating other relegions and acting violenty a gainst other countries.

European politicians are much more experienced a bout the matterand they are trying to take the heat off from the fire of radicalism here in Europe i beleive.

Christinaity containes a lot violence as well if politicians promoting that to become the main issue.

When some body opened the port from Hell then Hell came on earth ....I am sure some wise men out there trying their best now on days to close the port a gain.........the task is really difficult unfortunatily but the need for that became clear for those wise men when they felt how stupied opening of the port has been and they just do repearing damages from almost eight years of confrontation and irritation a gainst worlds biggest relegion. You can not expect irritatin of more than one fourth part of the whole world population directly and undirectly and then expect no body gets stupied amoung muslims as well.

Make wise desicions, and radical ones in islamic countries will be humiliated and forgotten as well.

I have never noticed a rise for Nazis all over the world as now on days! The Bushney,s made Nazis as a part of standing a gainst those they call far leftists even there are not many far leftist any where any way! When people are under pressur then they go toward radical ass holes both islamic radical ass holes and Nazi ass holes! they are both the same.Hating each other but still Helping each other as well!
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 6:00 AM CST
ttom500 wrote:
rates are rates...at the site they take them to the ____ per 100,000

it all evens out out.

Sorry on the bad lead story. I grapped the title of the bad piece.

But still could read like this: 4 Murder and over 20 Attempted Murders
in Chicago

What is special or different about the murder rate of a big city to a
small city murder rate? Is still the same kind of violent act? Yes?

Nothing special about a murder rates, they are one in same.
Only small town America has smaller one.

Get those fucking guns out of hands of civilian americans man! too many guns making people go crazy and thats the main reason!
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Posted: Apr 20, 2008, 6:04 AM CST
prncss4someone wrote:
C'mon people, time for a lunch break....

Good idea. Hope you enjoyed the meal sweet heart
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