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Another point of view:
Basically you have just had a chat with yourself, agreed with yourself and congratulated yourself for your fine analysis. No flaw in any of this really....if you are you! Myself, I don't believe Condi's "light" and I don't believe Carter has set anything back and the "dig" at Bush and Co seems pretty mild if it even is a dig. It is easy to live in a pretend world where the Bush administration is interested in a fair mideast settlement....until you have something honest to compare it to. That seems to me to be your problem with Carter's small efforts. They help to illustrate just how the Emperor has no clothes whatsoever.

JMO

As told before......There is no such a thing as the far left with Obama but still you like to beleive that way and thats your choice.

Still if Obama wins and Iran still gets nukes then yeah...I beleive that will be because of lack of politichal abilities of the new american presidency in ded.

It is GWB whom made Iranian regim and Russia finding a common "enemy" in Bush and getting this close to each otehr as they are. Of course GWB is the main reason TT. It is really odd you have not noticed it before!

How can you patronize like this???

One of the skills a man can have is at least try to (or better) be able to get into different point of views!!

Every (wo)man has a reason for their opinion. And people lower themselves talking down to others.

Who mentioned therapist??

I`ve not read the whole thread, but calm down - this thread shows why so many guns are used everyday...

For myself to speak: "There are several places on this planet I would`nt live without being able to protect myself

It seems like law and order more and more often only are meant for the chosen few...

Kitty

You know who else lost a lot of money on Iraq? Beside the Russian....
Good old Europeans did.......France, Germany, and other had major contracts with Sadam.

Why would the Russian lost political face with Iraq? Dude...........Iraq is not even in their sphere of influence after the break up.

But I guess.....since Putin showed President Bush where his yacht would be berthed during the coming Russian Winter Olmpics.....the freeze between the two must be over.....and Russia is going to be stop the nuc contract with Iran? Anyone that believes that, I have some land east of KSC to show them here in Florida.

Beside Dude......no one has to worry about Russia.....they are harmless....detoothed..... defanged.....all they want to do is take Euro for thier crude and become rich billionaires. Gesh, I'm not even sure why we have troops in Europe any more....or why you need to have this EuroArmy.......of course they building new battle tanks and new
advanced fighter attack aircaft. So maybe is premature to leave you guys.

Dude, I will tell you something. After the break up of Russia. If we wanted to embarress Russia. We surely could have. When the Russian sub went down....the US was one of the first to offer help. When Aeroflot got into trouble here with routes and such, we tried to keep
it flying into the US. We have reprocessed tons of old nuclear materials for Russia. And paid for much of the nuc disarment. Paid for much of the Russian nuc security programs. We let Russia into the Space Program and yes needed them after the Shuttle accident. But could have kept them out and shut the Space Station program down.so if we wanted to embaress Russia or to be less than friendly with then a wounded bear, we could have been. GWB took the high road with Russia in many ways.

What did the US and world get in return get in return? Putin and Pres A shaking hands on nuc deals. Russia playing games with crude prices to the Ukraine. Russian hackers coming into the Baltic states financial institution systems with cyber hacking and theft. Russian weapons contracts to Sadam and Iran.

Tugging the Russian bear's tail is good to do at times. Specially when you can do it with stealth aircraft. And they don't even know you are tugging it. Go Stealth Go....

Dude, Those were Russian radars in Iraq, in N. Korea, and other places. Stealth penetratd them all. Sometime it needs some help to it ........but consistently it has been done. Go Stealth Go

And that little info on Hillary as a VP canidadate for McCain.
Andy Jackson did it 1828. He took a VP canidadate from the opposition
party from the 1824 race. Ain't American politics strange?

I think you are wrong a bout Russia is a harmless, detoothed and defanged. This is exactyl what the Bushney,s have told since they won and thats the root of the very problems between Russia and USA.I dont know you have felt that or not but Russia is not all that you tell they are now and days and Putin,s presidency has really been good for Russia. And ready for a shock? Russia has actually better economichal growth than USA has so

If you really think they cant find out a bout american stealth craft over there then think back a bout many years a go when they shotted another super spyplane down TT! Be sure russian tecnology is also very advanced and it is not wise to provocate them even more by doing such things I beleive. You dont think they spy on America as well then? Is stealth tecnology really that stealth any way for Russia or others even?

You beleive in tugging Russian bears tail but of course you think so. This is the very official policy of the new cons from day one so your endorsement is not strange at all TT.

but I guess if McCain is going to choose a democrat as VP that one would be Lieberman because they have a lot Wars and killings and occupation plans and continuing tortur dreams in common. Yeah politics generally is strange some times and that is not only a bout American politics

They shot down a U-2, a plane made prior to stealth technology.
The U-2 was a big glider with a jet engine. Then, they could not catch
the SR-71,.....and today cannot see the F-117, the B-2, the UCAV and
the F-22............sometimes Mr. Putin has to look into the sky and wonder what is above his head. And Iran's Pres. A.........well........Pres. A. has to know that something is above his head.

It's probably a vasttttttttttt right wing conspiracy that the great people of Michigan and Florida were not allowed to have their votes counted. Those damn Bushneys. I feel a winds of change in Pennsylvania...and it's a wide state, so I think it'll be at least a typhoon that comes thru when Hillary carries Pennsylvania!

I would be for McCain/Hillary only if they promised to nuke Denmark. (well, at least Copenhagen)

The best propper answer for you Indy is

Be sure Russians give all junk they have to other countries and keeping the best ones them selves ;-)

Did you know they have rockets which can get through any thing western allience has? Scarey in deed....and another reason to talk with them as Real partners and not toothless ones as you mentioned earlier. they have really sharp tooth I am certain.

I guess Hillary will be a great VP for McCain and actually a really good republican she would be. I just can not see much democratic in this lady Even I try hard

but I guess if McCain is going to choose a democrat as VP that one would be Lieberman because they have a lot Wars and killings and occupation plans and continuing tortur dreams in common.

If Hillary makes a common campain with McCain then it will mean a great fare Well for her in policy I beleive!

Yeah politics generally is strange some times and that is not only a bout American politics

I would be for McCain/Hillary only if they promised to nuke Denmark. (well, at least Copenhagen)

My first bouquet for Barak.

Catch you later as well. Need to polish my guns now

Yeah a good idea keeping guns in good shape TT

No bouquets from me for McCain unless after he looses the election