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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 12:02 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Well well, from personal experience, I bought a home during the Carter years at 13.5% and thought that was a good rate at the time. Current rates are about 6% here.

Unemployment now is at 5.1% and that's with the influx of 20 million illegals. Check back on the golden Carter years, if you will. Dittos on inflation.

I'd say things are relatively good, all things considered.


Hi Indy.

I didn't suggest that the Carter years were golden. I seem to recall a rather bad oil crisis in 1979 which dashed things a bit. However I think the indicators you gave of present "good times" are a little limited and short term. There is a major banking crisis on now caused ultimately by bad lending practices, the US is in serious debt and the dollar has fallen a lot....short term that may actually help you but long term bad news for the US. I wish you well though!

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opalbeauty
Worcester County, Massachusetts USA
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 12:11 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Thanks for the information, Opal. Now we get to find out if Senator
Obama shares them with a person that is going to be one of his
introductory speakers at the DNC.

I hope they are bonifide sources, Opal. If not, you might be canceling a
speaking engagement.

Any event, again thank you. The questions coming from your post will be asked to Senator Obama till the November election, now. It is always best in politics to have the opponet talking about your canidadate. Now he will have to do just that. This will keep him off message and off issue thru November as media and voters question him on it.

So thank you.


rolling on the floor laughing I actually think you think you have a point. Obama is going to have to defend what I just said till election. rolling on the floor laughing It is the truth but like I have said Obama thinks for himself. wine
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solitare
Munchen, Bayern Germany
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 12:16 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
McCain now says it was only a coincidence that at the same time he was offering "military information" in exchange for special medical treatment, his captors discovered that his father was
There were many hero's who didn't hve a daddy who was Adm. John S. McCain Jr., commander of all U.S. forces in Europe and soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific, including Vietnam.

He doesn't deserve any special treatment I would say he already got a hell of lot more than most POW's.



Well done Opal! Excellent! I haven't seen all this in years, especially how he dealt with the POW organizations and how many veterans were against McCain. He treated them and their families horribly. People need to be strongly reminded of his despicable treatment of those people.
I still find it ironic than not a single candidate has stepped forward or has been nominated for the so called role of 'C in C' and the Presidency that has been an actual ground combat vet. with real combat use of a machine gun. I agree with the view point of William Gayley Simpson that in order to really find and achieve a meaningful peace, it will only come from a former soldier that has been in actual, real combat using a machine gun. That experience will give the candidate a perspective totally unknown to any presidential candidate and more than likely, will achieve Peace. Former combat soldiers who have actually experience it up close and personal will not be so easily enticed to have others experience it. It was expressed in Simpson's book Which Way Western Man, 1978, totally expunged from all public libraries in the US. Shame; very good book.
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 12:26 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
Srry for all those post but I wanted to show the real character of the war hero even if noone reads it.

thank you for all what you pot Opal Beauty! A true way of Learning for my self and beside others whom are willing to know! Please feel free and post more! thumbs up teddy bear
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 12:28 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
thank you for all what you pot Opal Beauty! A true way of Learning for my self and beside others whom are willing to know! Please feel free and post more!


Thank you for all what you Post Opal Beauty! A true way of Learning for my self and beside others whom are willing to know! Please feel free and post more!

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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 12:34 PM CST
Fallingman wrote:
Hi Indy.

I didn't suggest that the Carter years were golden. I seem to recall a rather bad oil crisis in 1979 which dashed things a bit. However I think the indicators you gave of present "good times" are a little limited and short term. There is a major banking crisis on now caused ultimately by bad lending practices, the US is in serious debt and the dollar has fallen a lot....short term that may actually help you but long term bad news for the US. I wish you well though!

Indy Does not know and he Does not want to know and he is not dreaming a bout willingness to Know Ever falling man!

He represents all those three little monkies all to gether and there are many others like him all over America as well unfortunatly!

Around lets say 25 procent whom are the Bushney,s endorsers?laugh

Indyfella is not a bad man any way but gosh he needs to know more a bout how things are in connection and how easy his willingness a bout knowing the truth has made his life becoming less rich all to gehter. And please god! Give Indy a real sweet left winged Sexy Girl whom shows him ability to feel life a gain?
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 12:37 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Indy Does not know and he Does not want to know and he is not dreaming a bout willingness to Know Ever falling man!

He represents all those three little monkies all to gether and there are many others like him all over America as well unfortunatly!

Around lets say 25 procent whom are the Bushney,s endorsers?

Indyfella is not a bad man any way but gosh he needs to know more a bout how things are in connection and how easy his willingness a bout knowing the truth has made his life becoming less rich all to gehter. And please god! Give Indy a real sweet left winged Sexy Girl whom shows him ability to feel life a gain?


rolling on the floor laughing

I retain my faith in human nature. Eventually Indy will tire of giving you a hard time Dude and see that US Republicanism is a cynical and uncaring philosophy. I am sure he is a nice guy and will have a great time with his left wing cutie! laugh
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 12:51 PM CST
Fallingman wrote:
I retain my faith in human nature. Eventually Indy will tire of giving you a hard time Dude and see that US Republicanism is a cynical and uncaring philosophy. I am sure he is a nice guy and will have a great time with his left wing cutie!

Gosh!!!!

that will be the only real sovlation for him! I hope she makes him Dance more and love more and waking him up in the right way!

It is really a damn shame many right winged are never ever able to enjoy their lives and specially love lifes because of being narrow minded and using their time and life and feelings in really sutpied matters as....

hatered and spying on neighbors ,allowing them selves being ordered toward the way they" feel "from some others, celebrating the weaker human beings lack of happiness and weaker nations misory, counting their own money and take any thing they can just for them selves, making fun of any body and every body whom is not as fortunate as them selves and seeing a guilt in those whom have not possibilities having a better life, making fun of the sick ones whom are not able to get treatment and wishing them die as soon as possible as the only soloution, Feeling them selves as the real ones from superiour race Bull shit by ignoring their lack of education as the main reason being an idiot......and a lot other horrible things ar right ones ar esurffering from!

Indy does not suffer fro all above but some of those in deed!

Really it must be terible never ever have tried to feel Free in loving some body else and just opening up and enjoying life and seeing one self as a tiney part of the whole human race !

Hot Hot Sex with a real even very far left Cuty I wish for Indyfella from the bottom of my heart and Really I wish that for him!

Please ......girls...Take Indy ....he needs solvation and he is a good dude ........dont mind his Bitterness, Good sex solves that as well !
cheers for that Indy!
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 1:06 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
I actually think you think you have a point. Obama is going to have to defend what I just said till election. It is the truth but like I have said Obama thinks for himself.


Like I said, I hope that they are bonfide sources. If not he get to either protect you like he did Rev. Wright or get a some more tossed
on his credibility issue.

Either way, thank you.
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 1:30 PM CST
It is interesting to think a bout how Hillary is doing exactly the same as her hub did when the matter of presidency was destroyed for Al Gore so unfairly in 2000, by making Florida becoming the Real Destroyer, once a gain!

Bill was very disturbeb a bout Al Gore never accepted Bill,s GCG and by that the way Bill destroyed the whole democratic partie,s credibility...and then Bill made it possible for Bush to win even Al Gore was the real ellected one, and Bill did all that because I am sure his "Thing" still was hard for Monica and he did not want to get over Bitterness a bout his own VP critisiced him for that!

Yeah it was deeply a matter of using gliding cream or not and when and where whom made Bill a serious part of Al Gore,s destroyed dream and most americans dreams as well for his presidency and now.......

Several years later, it seems like Hillary does exactly the same and trying so hard involving Florida and Michigan as well in the same dirty shit kind of politichal fraud!

Is there any body in the democrtaic party with influence Talking a serious Talk with Hillary please?

Hillary Can not possibly win over McCain No matter what! She is giving America back to the Bushney,s! America is not ready for Hillary as president and I dare to say not redy at all having a woman for president !

No body can make America change so fast and making majority of people whom are not ready for being able to look at a woman and seeing a president, thinking differently!And dont call me a chuavinist because I think so ...this is a real Fact and nothing than that!

The country and its history is too young being able toward any thing like that still!

Are democrats Really truelly so willing of giving their country to McCain?

Really seeing Hillary able of acting any thing than worng if there are wars to fight or reats to take care of? Will she be able to deciding any thing her self at all? The same lady whom lies a bout Sniperfire shit just tog et attention and looking darey? Or the same lady whom talks a bout her shooting experiences as a hunter to show she loves guns and to tell she is a kind of Rambo her self as well?

Jack Nichelson has endosed Hillary by using a scean from one of his movies where he tells : "there is nothing on this earth sexier than a woman you have to salute in the morning."

I am not sure at all majority of americans and specially the army men thinking that way at all........I mean saluting Hillary as the commandor and cheif? Impossible!!!!!!!!




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opalbeauty
Worcester County, Massachusetts USA
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 1:54 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Like I said, I hope that they are bonfide sources. If not he get to either protect you like he did Rev. Wright or get a some more tossed
on his credibility issue.

Either way, thank you.


ttom, would you like to buy a bridge? Send me a check opalbeauty c/o connecting singles. grin

I'm really flattered that you think we are all so important here in our little thread that I may actually be a part of history. But please stop believing everything you hear ttom, it's delusional.

Sorry, I forgot some of you republicans like living in a delusion, you like the illusion of control and power and more....
Reality is going to hit you so hard it will knock you unconcious. boxing
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 1:57 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
ttom, would you like to buy a bridge? Send me a check opalbeauty c/o connecting singles.

I'm really flattered that you think we are all so important here in our little thread that I may actually be a part of history. But please stop believing everything you hear ttom, it's delusional.

Sorry, I forgot some of you republicans like living in a delusion, you like the illusion of control and power and more....
Reality is going to hit you so hard it will knock you unconcious.

Awtch Opal beauy.....this one really was a bulls eye laugh thumbs up
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opalbeauty
Worcester County, Massachusetts USA
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 1:59 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
It is interesting to think a bout how Hillary is doing exactly the same as her hub did when the matter of presidency was destroyed for Al Gore so unfairly in 2000, by making Florida becoming the Real Destroyer, once a gain!

Bill was very disturbeb a bout Al Gore never accepted Bill,s GCG and by that the way Bill destroyed the whole democratic partie,s credibility...and then Bill made it possible for Bush to win even Al Gore was the real ellected one, and Bill did all that because I am sure his "Thing" still was hard for Monica and he did not want to get over Bitterness a bout his own VP critisiced him for that!

Yeah it was deeply a matter of using gliding cream or not and when and where whom made Bill a serious part of Al Gore,s destroyed dream and most americans dreams as well for his presidency and now.......

Several years later, it seems like Hillary does exactly the same and trying so hard involving Florida and Michigan as well in the same dirty shit kind of politichal fraud!

Is there any body in the democrtaic party with influence Talking a serious Talk with Hillary please?

Hillary Can not possibly win over McCain No matter what! She is giving America back to the Bushney,s! America is not ready for Hillary as president and I dare to say not redy at all having a woman for president !

No body can make America change so fast and making majority of people whom are not ready for being able to look at a woman and seeing a president, thinking differently!And dont call me a chuavinist because I think so ...this is a real Fact and nothing than that!

The country and its history is too young being able toward any thing like that still!

Are democrats Really truelly so willing of giving their country to McCain?

Really seeing Hillary able of acting any thing than worng if there are wars to fight or reats to take care of? Will she be able to deciding any thing her self at all? The same lady whom lies a bout Sniperfire shit just tog et attention and looking darey? Or the same lady whom talks a bout her shooting experiences as a hunter to show she loves guns and to tell she is a kind of Rambo her self as well?

Jack Nichelson has endosed Hillary by using a scean from one of his movies where he tells : "there is nothing on this earth sexier than a woman you have to salute in the morning."

I am not sure at all majority of americans and specially the army men thinking that way at all........I mean saluting Hillary as the commandor and cheif? Impossible!!!!!!!!


Why are you talking about Florida and Michigan? I thought that was settled and they are out.
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 2:07 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
Why are you talking about Florida and Michigan? I thought that was settled and they are out.

Abviously not ! Hillary mentioned it a gain to day while he was interwied. Hillary knows her chances are too tiney to really count toward her victory and she thinks in alternative ways of becoming the main nominated. It is really sad the existens of such methods at all I beleive. If I could wish any thing really good for better votings in America it would be the best way of election adn that is the matter of popular votes like in most other countries .

Hillary is doing really a lot work to find a way no matter what way(s) to White house.....

Just imagine whom else would suggest Obama as her Vice while Obama just gained a huge victory a gainst her nomination!that really showed she is even "Funny" if not other things!

This Hillary is really some thing I may say......dunno

Reminds me of her so called Work toward a universal health care and she shouted and shouted a bout all those ideas of her and then one lobbyist or three made her Change all of a sudden!

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PeachesandRay
Concord, North Carolina USA
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 3:17 PM CST
sweetowen wrote:
I'm asking this because I honestly don't know... was Reagan in the military?


One of the best presidents this country ever had. Right up there with JFK
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 3:30 PM CST
PeachesandRay wrote:
One of the best presidents this country ever had. Right up there with JFK


His work resulted in ending Sovviet Union and the "end" of cold war as well and beside in his first turm economichal sitaution of the United states became good.

But!!!!!He was also resulted in terrible economichal situation from the begining of his second turm in Ameirca, Iran Contra gate, Saddams strenghten in Iraq, Eight years of bloody useless between Iran and Iraq, Strengtening and becoming of Alqueda in Afghanistan as well!Specially his/and his administrations rule of Alqueda became as an organisation must never be forgotten I think.

But oak maybe it is best just to remeber people for their best sides.....

I dont!

If there is a family member or a friend ok, but not when they are politicians with great responsibilities affecting millions of human beings!
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PeachesandRay
Concord, North Carolina USA
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 4:00 PM CST
A little history lesson. Issues between Iran and the US didn't start during Reagan's time in the Oval Office, it was during Carter.


The Iran hostage crisis was a diplomatic crisis between Iran and the United States where 52 U.S. diplomats were held hostage for 444 days from November 4, 1979 to January 20, 1981, after a group of students took over the American embassy in support of Iran's revolution.

In Iran, the incident was seen by many as a blow against U.S. influence in Iran and its support of the recently fallen Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had been restored to power by a CIA-funded coup in 1953 and who had recently been allowed into the United States for cancer treatment. In the United States, the hostage-taking was widely seen as an outrage violating a centuries-old principle of international law granting diplomats immunity from arrest and diplomatic compounds sovereignty in the territory of the host country they occupy.

The ordeal reached a climax when the United States military attempted a rescue operation, Operation Eagle Claw, on April 24, 1980, which resulted in an aborted mission and the deaths of eight American military men. The crisis ended with the signing of the Algiers Accords in Algeria on January 19, 1981. The hostages were formally released into United States custody the following day, just minutes after the new American president Ronald Reagan was sworn in.

In America, the crisis is thought by some political analysts to be the primary reason for U.S. President Jimmy Carter's defeat in the November 1980 presidential election. In Iran, the crisis is thought to have strengthened the prestige of the Ayatollah Khomeini and consolidated the hold of anti-Americanism and Iranian radicals who supported the hostage taking. The crisis also marked the beginning of American legal action, or sanctions, that economically separated Iran from America. Sanctions blocked all property within US jurisdiction owned by the Central Bank and Government of Iran.

Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
His work resulted in ending Sovviet Union and the "end" of cold war as well and beside in his first turm economichal sitaution of the United states became good.

But!!!!!He was also resulted in terrible economichal situation from the begining of his second turm in Ameirca, Iran Contra gate, Saddams strenghten in Iraq, Eight years of bloody useless between Iran and Iraq, Strengtening and becoming of Alqueda in Afghanistan as well!Specially his/and his administrations rule of Alqueda became as an organisation must never be forgotten I think.

But oak maybe it is best just to remeber people for their best sides.....

I dont!

If there is a family member or a friend ok, but not when they are politicians with great responsibilities affecting millions of human beings!
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 4:05 PM CST
opalbeauty wrote:
ttom, would you like to buy a bridge? Send me a check opalbeauty c/o connecting singles.

I'm really flattered that you think we are all so important here in our little thread that I may actually be a part of history. But please stop believing everything you hear ttom, it's delusional.

Sorry, I forgot some of you republicans like living in a delusion, you like the illusion of control and power and more....
Reality is going to hit you so hard it will knock you unconcious.


Opalbueaty,

You a little person? Opal, if you are giving a introductory speach at the
DNC for Senator Obama...as you have said.....then you are inner circle. What the inner circle does and says goes right back to the canididate himself.

Hard packages in the mails (tomorrow) to campaign managers of both canididates with your post of today. For Barak campaign manager I ask the following.

1) Confirm your association with his campaign and
that you are a introductory speaker for him at
the DNC.

2) If you are associated with his campaign. To give comment
here in the post to if these are Barak Obama's
thoughts on Senator McCain, his war record, his
family life, any organized crime connections that
you aledge and other issues raised.

If I do not get such a reply either here or on Barak Obama campaign letterhead, I will take this public and let media ask the questions and make the connections.

From Senator McCain campaign manager, it is more a information package with the site info so they can monitor it and the thread some. But if they feel such does need to be addressed, they can post here as well or in the media as they choose. Fair enough?

Give them 10 days- 3 weeks to process it. And decide how they want to handle it. We should get some answers from the campaigns then for all here to read.

Opal, no I would not buy bridge from you.:-)
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 4:10 PM CST
Late breaking news: HILLARY CARRIES THE BITTER WHITE MALE (AND GUN TOT'IN) VOTE IN PENNSYLVANIA
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Indyfella
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Posted: Apr 23, 2008, 4:12 PM CST

AND TO THINK, I WAS WITHIN EARSHOT OF HILLARY CLINTON TODAY! THE GRASS TURNED TO GOLD AS WINDS OF CHANGE CAME THRU TOWN.rolling on the floor laughing
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