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Obama for President.....The Fifth!

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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 5:43 PM CST
Freedom of relegion is a very important of american constitution and a part of any civilised countries legislations as well. I am sure he will not touch that freedom of choice.

No matter what relegion you have, no body will be after you because of that in America and you will be only sanctionised if you do some thing illegal a gainst the security of the society.....maybe you are thing "Antichrist" bull shit when you talk a bout this issue?
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StressFree
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Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 5:44 PM CST
Anyways, so I am not really in the mood to read the entire thread. Here is my quick take in a nutshell....true change will come when we finally get a President from the Green Party or a political party yet to exist in America....I mean, WTF....Repubs or Dems...WTF IS REALLY going to change? Same party but different masks.
The system will not change. Institutions will not change. The monetary system will not change, the educational system will not change, nothing will really change cause it's all a bunch of cyclical bullshit.

America so needs more Parties with more influence. I am so tired of the Republicans and Democrats giving and taking...leaving the Americans in the middle of their fucked up choices. And the Americans need to fuckin open up their minds in regards to a new political party. Now I am fuckin pissed...not really.

With that said, I say this as a Northern Californian from Frisco.....peace, love n flowers...and a fat-crisp one!

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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 5:47 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
:-) Dude.........if Obama becomes President....he will lead a country of the most hard headed, stubborn, obnoxiuos, determined, commited,
dedicated, self determining people on the planet...historically or
in modren time. If you think he needs patience with this little flap on American being 'bitter' .....over guns and religion.......is excessive.....

.............the day he proposes anti gun legistlation in Congress OR supports a Supreme Court ruling in restricting Freedom of Religion is the day he will patience.

America is still too young country to accept anti gun legislations and Obama knows it as well. Maybe some day people will accept it but I am sure that will not be at least 25 years from now.

It seems like the same being stubberned as an american is used in a very good way now on days..I mean many many americans have become really stubberned a gains tthe policies of the Bushney,s!

Great in deed when some thing which sounds negative is actually a positive thing.

Freedom of relegion is a very important of american constitution and a part of any civilised countries legislations as well. I am sure he will not touch that freedom of choice.

No matter what relegion you have, no body will be after you because of that in America and you will be only sanctionised if you do some thing illegal a gainst the security of the society.....maybe you are thing "Antichrist" bull shit when you talk a bout this issue?[/quote]


I think he'll go after those gun totin' hilljacks..........


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hell, maybe in Taxuchussets... grin
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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 5:51 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Freedom of relegion is a very important of american constitution and a part of any civilised countries legislations as well. I am sure he will not touch that freedom of choice.

No matter what relegion you have, no body will be after you because of that in America and you will be only sanctionised if you do some thing illegal a gainst the security of the society.....maybe you are thing "Antichrist" bull shit when you talk a bout this issue?


hey hotsingledude (damn that I hate saying that), are you American? I am guessing not judging by your in'tl/British English ways of spelling. Just curious....not bi curious.

The constitution should not be fucked with....first ten amendments anyways....
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 5:53 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
hey hotsingledude (damn that I hate saying that), are you American? I am guessing not judging by your in'tl/British English ways of spelling. Just curious....not bi curious.

The constitution should not be fucked with....first ten amendments anyways....



He escaped the Soviet Union..... applause
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 5:57 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
hey hotsingledude (damn that I hate saying that), are you American? I am guessing not judging by your in'tl/British English ways of spelling. Just curious....not bi curious.

The constitution should not be fucked with....first ten amendments anyways....



Actually, Putin stuck him in Denmark.... He's trying to do a takeover~ rolling on the floor laughing
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StressFree
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Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 5:59 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Actually, Putin stuck him in Denmark.... He's trying to do a takeover~


Is he Danish? I am not checking his profile to get the answer...is he armless?
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:00 PM CST
Don't you just like when we have heavy news days!

The brave Rev. Wright, decided to attack men that cannot defend themselves.....as he said of the founding fathers......writers of the
Constitution.......'as they planted racist DNA into the Constitution
of the United States.'barfing

Maybe he was afraid the Obama 'bitterness' comments were going
to take media attention away from his views on America. Or just maybe because he decided to puke on the founding fathers of the country, because they were white.

Wish honest and true information on these founding fathers and racism? Here it is.

Most were alive and in political office when the country obtained the LA purchase....an expanse of millions of acres that was going to be many new states added into the Union. The debate if slavery was to be allowed in these new states was held in congress. 26 of them voted to keep slavery out of these lands. Slavery was halted in expanding the new lands of the LA purchase. That is the truth.

If the were racists, they would have voted for slavery in those million of acres.....expanding it into a accepted institution in the country. They took the high moral road here....because there was much at sake....as the lands could be developed faster with slavery than without. Many more white Americans would live as landed gentry on plantions.
Instead they rejected it.

Maybe someday Obama should reject and sever with Rev. Wright....and take the moral high road.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:00 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
Is he Danish? I am not checking his profile to get the answer...is he armless?



Well, check out some of those "above me threads"........... they're insightful. rolling on the floor laughing
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:01 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
Anyways, so I am not really in the mood to read the entire thread. Here is my quick take in a nutshell....true change will come when we finally get a President from the Green Party or a political party yet to exist in America....I mean, WTF....Repubs or Dems...WTF IS REALLY going to change? Same party but different masks.
The system will not change. Institutions will not change. The monetary system will not change, the educational system will not change, nothing will really change cause it's all a bunch of cyclical bullshit.

America so needs more Parties with more influence. I am so tired of the Republicans and Democrats giving and taking...leaving the Americans in the middle of their fucked up choices. And the Americans need to fuckin open up their minds in regards to a new political party. Now I am fuckin pissed...not really.

With that said, I say this as a Northern Californian from Frisco.....peace, love n flowers...and a fat-crisp one!

I understand what you are talking a bout. A lot will be the same if it is Obama or McCain or Clinton but still even one single positive step toward new ways of rulling the country is better than nothing. I am sure basichal important matters as Health care , environment and peace will be much better taken care of with a president as Obama in the White house and I am certain the man is not too poisioned in his mind with too much influence from the Lobbyists as both McCain and Clintons are!

I am sure Obama really wants to listen more to people instead of allowing the desicions of the lobbyists being forced upon americans by treatening them to silence or being called a "non patriotic terrorist lover Communist " if any body akse questions.

I am sure Obama is not that scared allowing America learn more from european countries a bout the heath care system in America as an example and he is not afraid to tell , "if others are better than us in some thing they they are better and we have to accept this and learn from others"!

I am totaly certain he is not like much in creating one demon after another to be able to keep democratic party strong mainly as the Bushney,s clearly have done it from day one they took the House and just have taken advantage form the Fear and have created reasons for more Fear! Obama is not going to censur the whole world for knowing more truth a bout the wars America is a part of and America has created because he knows Censorship just makes the problems even better!

I am also sure Obama is not a second afraid or thinking just a bout Money flow when he is to do some thing a bout global warming and the greatest reason being really scared for all of us at all! He is ready to enter any alternative method which works in this battle a gainst a certain death for millions and danger for huge conflicts all over the world because of water and food shortiges if global warming is not stopped! He is not going to censur one repot after the other from environmental institutions as the Bushney,s so shame less have done and are doing every single day !

A bout these three matters he will be a major change to any thing we have seen for years in America and thats cool for me I may admit.

If the rest will be the same that will also be temporarily because one change leds to another......and that has been seen in Europe many times before as well!
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:04 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Freedom of relegion is a very important of american constitution and a part of any civilised countries legislations as well. I am sure he will not touch that freedom of choice.

No matter what relegion you have, no body will be after you because of that in America and you will be only sanctionised if you do some thing illegal a gainst the security of the society.....maybe you are thing "Antichrist" bull shit when you talk a bout this issue?


He already is....with his bitterness comments Dude. He 'touching religion in America'. I am just extending it to where it can go if he is elected to be President.

Once he is President, we have no guarantee that he will not do that.
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Indyfella
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Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:05 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:



I am sure Obama is not that scared allowing America learn more from european countries a bout the heath care system in America as an example and he is not afraid to tell , "if others are better than us in some thing they they are better and we have to accept this and learn from others"!



A bout these three matters he will be a major change to any thing we have seen for years in America and thats cool for me I may admit.

If the rest will be the same that will also be temporarily because one change leds to another......and that has been seen in Europe many times before as well!



Oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............ that's what we want...to be like Europe. rolling on the floor laughing
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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:07 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Well, check out some of those "above me threads"........... they're insightful.


damn...you sure are slippery....

So I started to read the thread...then stopped...seen these kinds of debates in other forums and they go no where. Nobody is gong to change nobody.

Change comes from within....anyways Indyfella, I gather that you are a Repub and I have no quarrels with that.

I am not here to coerce anyone, stereotype anyone, or judge anyone because of their political views. Diverse political views are essential for a healthy Democracy in America. I should emphasize diverse...like more political parties....and no I am not a pro-socialist.

Don't even ask, cause I am off the charts radical/liberal. My solutions are too radical for anyone to comprehend.
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Indyfella
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Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:10 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
damn...you sure are slippery....

So I started to read the thread...then stopped...seen these kinds of debates in other forums and they go no where. Nobody is gong to change nobody.

Change comes from within....anyways Indyfella, I gather that you are a Repub and I have no quarrels with that.

I am not here to coerce anyone, stereotype anyone, or judge anyone because of their political views. Diverse political views are essential for a healthy Democracy in America. I should emphasize diverse...like more political parties....and no I am not a pro-socialist.

Don't even ask, cause I am off the charts radical/liberal. My solutions are too radical for anyone to comprehend.


Being anti-Obama doesn't make me a Republican. In this election, it's the lesser of evils. Put me in the Libertarian camp. However, when someone just tosses out blatant lies about a candidate, I'll call them on it. Obama's not a muslim, Hillary's not a witch...(well, maybe a little).....and McCain's not a psychological basket case as is inferred on these threads.

Okay, I'm done handshake
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:11 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
hey hotsingledude (damn that I hate saying that), are you American? I am guessing not judging by your in'tl/British English ways of spelling. Just curious....not bi curious.

The constitution should not be fucked with....first ten amendments anyways....

No Stress free I am danish.

Constitution is good but it has been changed before several times and for better I am sure. Any way some things are too old fashioned any way and they can be changes as the needs and they ways a society things are chaging as well. I am certain some day this Gun loving thing will change dramatichally in America as well. I beleive Gun must ony being bare by police officers and also by the army personals in the times of national crisis if police alone is not enough for creating law and order.

But yeah I know Still America wants Guns! Or some americans want that and I am certain at least 40 procent americans dont care that much and would rather thnnking differnetly a bout this "gun" thing.

I am very happy here in denmark itis not allowed to have guns for a privat eperson or having one at home unless you have a certain usage for that as a hunter for example and for being allowd you really need a lot permissons. By that Denmark is not taoltay safe at all but much more safe than America a bout gun related criminality any way.

Guns are nasty to have at home or on one self in the street....Really nasty I beleive and the time of Jessey James or Billy the Kid is over I beleive! If there are many guns there will be many kils as well...the damn thing is too difficult not to abuse !
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StressFree
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Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:11 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
I understand what you are talking a bout. A lot will be the same if it is Obama or McCain or Clinton but still even one single positive step toward new ways of rulling the country is better than nothing. I am sure basichal important matters as Health care , environment and peace will be much better taken care of with a president as Obama in the White house and I am certain the man is not too poisioned in his mind with too much influence from the Lobbyists as both McCain and Clintons are!

I am sure Obama really wants to listen more to people instead of allowing the desicions of the lobbyists being forced upon americans by treatening them to silence or being called a "non patriotic terrorist lover Communist " if any body akse questions.

I am sure Obama is not that scared allowing America learn more from european countries a bout the heath care system in America as an example and he is not afraid to tell , "if others are better than us in some thing they they are better and we have to accept this and learn from others"!

I am totaly certain he is not like much in creating one demon after another to be able to keep democratic party strong mainly as the Bushney,s clearly have done it from day one they took the House and just have taken advantage form the Fear and have created reasons for more Fear! Obama is not going to censur the whole world for knowing more truth a bout the wars America is a part of and America has created because he knows Censorship just makes the problems even better!

I am also sure Obama is not a second afraid or thinking just a bout Money flow when he is to do some thing a bout global warming and the greatest reason being really scared for all of us at all! He is ready to enter any alternative method which works in this battle a gainst a certain death for millions and danger for huge conflicts all over the world because of water and food shortiges if global warming is not stopped! He is not going to censur one repot after the other from environmental institutions as the Bushney,s so shame less have done and are doing every single day !

A bout these three matters he will be a major change to any thing we have seen for years in America and thats cool for me I may admit.

If the rest will be the same that will also be temporarily because one change leds to another......and that has been seen in Europe many times before as well!


Good post and I agree. America and it's institutions are so beyond in the need for a new direction. One little step is better than giant step backwards....

It's a process, and it will only speed up once Americans are broke...then they will be out for BLOOD....in a revolutionary way..
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StressFree
small city, Kalmar Sweden
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:13 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Being anti-Obama doesn't make me a Republican. In this election, it's the lesser of evils. Put me in the Libertarian camp. However, when someone just tosses out blatant lies about a candidate, I'll call them on it. Obama's not a muslim, Hillary's not a witch...(well, maybe a little).....and McCain's not a psychological basket case as is inferred on these threads.

Okay, I'm done


Cool, I agree with your post....sorry if I assumed your political stance....like I said, I did not read the whole thread...
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:14 PM CST
One pole on PA ...Hillary 57% and Obama 37%

Other have it as a 10% difference with Hillary in the contest.

Hillary is running some major ads on his bitterness comments.....they are hard hitting using PA voters to comment how they feel being called
'bittered'. The gloves have come off.

Obama camps says the 20 point pole is good......because if really he loses by a smaller figure...will show that PA really does 'accepts him'.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:15 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
Cool, I agree with your post....sorry if I assumed your political stance....like I said, I did not read the whole thread...
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I will confess I would tilt more to the right than the left, but I think individual liberties are of utmost importance. professor
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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 14, 2008, 6:17 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
America is still too young country to accept anti gun legislations and Obama knows it as well. Maybe some day people will accept it but I am sure that will not be at least 25 years from now.

It seems like the same being stubberned as an american is used in a very good way now on days..I mean many many americans have become really stubberned a gains tthe policies of the Bushney,s!

Great in deed when some thing which sounds negative is actually a positive thing.

Freedom of relegion is a very important of american constitution and a part of any civilised countries legislations as well. I am sure he will not touch that freedom of choice.

No matter what relegion you have, no body will be after you because of that in America and you will be only sanctionised if you do some thing illegal a gainst the security of the society.....maybe you are thing "Antichrist" bull shit when you talk a bout this issue?
I think he'll go after those gun totin' hilljacks..........in W. Virginia
in Virginia
in Georgia
in Alabama
in Mississippi
in New Hampshire
in Colorado
in Arizona
in Texas
in Texas (lol)
in Louisana
in Kentucky
in Arkansas
in Tennessee
in Utah
in Wyoming
in Montana
in N. Dakota
in S. Dakota

hell, maybe in Taxuchussets...[/quote]


Where is Florida? I am filing a gun totting protest here!
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