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Obama for president... Hexagon!

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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: May 4, 2008, 4:33 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
You're lucky you're in Denmark.

And How shall this one being understood Indyfella?
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 4:36 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Actually almost any world leader like Bill Clinton.....even to day! When Bill visited Denmark as the president there was a happiness amonung people and a kind fo feeling honoured by his visit! Tousandsa of people listened to his apecah with great joy in Copenhagen......just an example! Oh sorry.......Thats one of the reasons you dislike him ...beause America had excellent relationship with other countries during Bill Clinton Right?



Usually when an American president is admired and "honored" in a foreign country, it's because they're seen as a real candy ass...


JMO~
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 4:53 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Usually when an American president is admired and "honored" in a foreign country, it's because they're seen as a real candy ass...JMO~


A Candy ass because he created a kind of real peace for some yearsa moung Palestine and Israel or because he was the real engine behind destruction of Aprtheid in South Africa or because during his time the real peace talks which ended the battle in Ireland at last became possible, or because many other positive developments in whole world he was responsible for?

I know he made a huge mistake a bout allowing OBL to fleed unfortunatily but still.....I dont think that makes him being a Candy ass any way.

If a Candy As means a man whom thinks negotiations and communication are stronger than usage of war and destruction of whole nations.....then it must be good being a Candy ass any way!

Real strength is best being "Felt" not "Seen"...... I beleive......and it certainly works as well!
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 4:59 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
As told before Sparkey......Being atheist is mainly a bout being a gainst relegions or beleivng in any relegions Since they all are made from human beings and no profets whom so ever have been more than a totaly normal human being/or a politician whom was really good in his way of commercialising him self in my eyes!

Beleiving in god is not that difficult at all! there is a god of course and beside that the rest is bull shit and just a way of making good business in my eyes!

the next will be of course if god comes back from "vacation" and doing some thing a bout the misory your beloved Bush has created on earth and allowing a much better man called Obama taking over of course and sending McCain to his nice quiet retirement and Hillary back to her horrible marrige and helping her finding a way out of her GCG concidrations!


D'oh! D'oh! D'oh!

Dude, Dude, Dude. I'm an athiest. You, sir are Agnostic. Learn the difference. Again, you are spouting off with knowledge you just don't have.

Athiest litterally means...a(no) thiest(god).

Agnostic believes in a higher being with out the attached Dogma of religion.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 5:09 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
A Candy ass because he created a kind of real peace for some yearsa moung Palestine and Israel or because he was the real engine behind destruction of Aprtheid in South Africa or because during his time the real peace talks which ended the battle in Ireland at last became possible, or because many other positive developments in whole world he was responsible for?

I know he made a huge mistake a bout allowing OBL to fleed unfortunatily but still.....I dont think that makes him being a Candy ass any way.

If a Candy As means a man whom thinks negotiations and communication are stronger than usage of war and destruction of whole nations.....then it must be good being a Candy ass any way!

Real strength is best being "Felt" not "Seen"...... I beleive......and it certainly works as well!



Yep, that Palestinian/Israel deal really worked out well. laugh
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 5:21 PM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
Dude, Dude, Dude. I'm an athiest. You, sir are Agnostic. Learn the difference. Again, you are spouting off with knowledge you just don't have.

Athiest litterally means...a(no) thiest(god).

Agnostic believes in a higher being with out the attached Dogma of religion.

Ok then Agnostic! I still think being atheist is mostly a bout being a gainst relegions.....but ok you win!

It is the same any way some how I beleive.

A non-relegious person whom beleives in some higer power some how......in god!

Ty for info!
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Indyfella
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 5:24 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Ok then Agnostic! I still think being atheist is mostly a bout being a gainst relegions.....but ok you win!

It is the same any way some how I beleive.

A non-relegious person whom beleives in some higer power some how......in god!

Ty for info!



Bless you my child~ applause laugh
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 5:25 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Yep, that Palestinian/Israel deal really worked out well.

It would work for sure if not ebcause of the Bushney,s and mainly because of 9/11 unfortunatily. After 9/11 a lot old anger came to surface and then all the progress were back to the very begining all of a sudden. Both amoung Israelis and amoung palestinians some desicion makers began to think "fight" and then every thing was destroyed!
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Indyfella
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 5:27 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
It would work for sure if not ebcause of the Bushney,s and mainly because of 9/11 unfortunatily. After 9/11 a lot old anger came to surface and then all the progress were back to the very begining all of a sudden. Both amoung Israelis and amoung palestinians some desicion makers began to think "fight" and then every thing was destroyed!


There's a lot of "ifs" there. If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 5:30 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
There's a lot of "ifs" there. If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
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Conrad73
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 5:37 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
It would work for sure if not ebcause of the DUDES and mainly because of the Cartoons unfortunatily. Then a lot old anger came to surface and then all the progress were back to the very begining all of a sudden. Both amoung Israelis and amoung palestinians some desicion makers began to think "DUDE" and then every thing was destroyed!
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 6:10 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
There's a lot of "ifs" there. If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.


There is actually only one IF if you read more carefully Indyfella! One reason Only, and the reason is a president called George W. Bush!

Of course your aunt has no balls any way! So stay with facts and accept it Indyfella!laugh

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ttom500
St. Cloud, Florida USA
Posted: May 4, 2008, 6:30 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
A Candy ass because he created a kind of real peace for some yearsa moung Palestine and Israel or because he was the real engine behind destruction of Aprtheid in South Africa or because during his time the real peace talks which ended the battle in Ireland at last became possible, or because many other positive developments in whole world he was responsible for?

I know he made a huge mistake a bout allowing OBL to fleed unfortunatily but still.....I dont think that makes him being a Candy ass any way.

If a Candy As means a man whom thinks negotiations and communication are stronger than usage of war and destruction of whole nations.....then it must be good being a Candy ass any way!

Real strength is best being "Felt" not "Seen"...... I beleive......and it certainly works as well!


Dude, projected power of the United States is often seen. A battle carrier group passing thru the Strait of Hormus....is seen. Guarrranteed. Sometime a stealth aircraft flying over Tehran, is not seen.:-)

Having the ability to project power anywhere in the world, is one of the abilities the United States has. Now you want us to give this up?
And turn to what? Rubber bands and spit balls?

Get real. The only reason a country like Iran will step away from nucs is because that projected power. The only reason a China does not gobble up a Tiawan is that projected power. The only reason there is not a lot more troubles in the world, is that projected power.

Also when a natural event like a tsumia or earthquake occurs. That projected power shifts to life saving operations.

What 'felt strength'could a gov't offer to stop Iran from getting nucs?
What felt strength could a gov't have to aid earthquake victims in mountain of Pakistan? The realities of the world don't make room for
some illusion of strength.

What you really are saying 'talk' a good game, but don't 'play' a good game. Our approach today is like John Wayne.... pilgrim.....walk the walk and talk the talk. It makes it real.
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: May 4, 2008, 6:56 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Dude, projected power of the United States is often seen. A battle carrier group passing thru the Strait of Hormus....is seen. Guarrranteed. Sometime a stealth aircraft flying over Tehran, is not seen.:-)

Having the ability to project power anywhere in the world, is one of the abilities the United States has. Now you want us to give this up?
And turn to what? Rubber bands and spit balls?

Get real. The only reason a country like Iran will step away from nucs is because that projected power. The only reason a China does not gobble up a Tiawan is that projected power. The only reason there is not a lot more troubles in the world, is that projected power.

Also when a natural event like a tsumia or earthquake occurs. That projected power shifts to life saving operations.

What 'felt strength'could a gov't offer to stop Iran from getting nucs?
What felt strength could a gov't have to aid earthquake victims in mountain of Pakistan? The realities of the world don't make room for
some illusion of strength.

What you really are saying 'talk' a good game, but don't 'play' a good game. Our approach today is like John Wayne.... pilgrim.....walk the walk and talk the talk. It makes it real.


I am not sure this John Wayne attitude has worked at all during last seven-eight years or has it? Late John was a known/very radical repulican as well so I am not wonder why you are using this one TT!

Walk the walk and talk the talk.......actually all the Bushney,s are doing is Walking since they took over and the others doing exactly the same! No diplomacy of real kind is to see any where! the whole thing is based on: "With us or a gainst us!" Middle easterns dont understand this shit and they just get more igore to Fight ! I know America is the strongest one and bla bla bla!!!! But still , these fights never ends any way then!

People them selves are not scared and any time they are under pressur they get more igore to fight back!

America has the ability to fight all places on earth and america,s enemies knwoing that as well. So use diplomacy and be sure they know you can kick their asses any way if it is absoloutely necessary.

It is really interesting you think China has not taken Taiwan back because they are scared of american military......I dont think thats the reason TT. China knows Taiwan goes back to China soon by peoples wish, so why bother at all? really dont think at all China is scared of american military , they are pretty strong them selves and at least much better at shooting old satelites down you see? Oh sorry the one american military shooted down was not even an old one! One signle rocket and direct heat instead of three!rolling eyes

Chinees now on days are much concentrated in making huge amount of money and they are so rich that even the Bushney,s have began to borrow money from them to buy oil for America! I am totaly sure they dont bother taking back Taiwan by military power and they will surely do it if they want and they are not scared I am sure. Taiwan is not a real country for it self and many Taiwanees are actually going toward China friendly movements and they are really igore to get better economichal relations with their mother land , China knows it very well and as chiness always do....they are patience and know it will happen soon.















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Indyfella
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 7:00 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
I am not sure this John Wayne attitude has worked at all during last seven-eight years or has it? Late John was a known/very radical repulican as well so I am not wonder why you are using this one TT!

Walk the walk and talk the talk.......actually all the Bushney,s are doing is Walking since they took over and the others doing exactly the same! No diplomacy of real kind is to see any where! the whole thing is based on: "With us or a gainst us!" Middle easterns dont understand this shit and they just get more igore to Fight ! I know America is the strongest one and bla bla bla!!!! But still , these fights never ends any way then!

People them selves are not scared and any time they are under pressur they get more igore to fight back!

America has the ability to fight all places on earth and america,s enemies knwoing that as well. So use diplomacy and be sure they know you can kick their asses any way if it is absoloutely necessary.

It is really interesting you think China has not taken Taiwan back because they are scared of american military......I dont think thats the reason TT. China knows Taiwan goes back to China soon by peoples wish, so why bother at all? really dont think at all China is scared of american military , they are pretty strong them selves and at least much better at shooting old satelites down you see? Oh sorry the one american military shooted down was not even an old one! One signle rocket and direct heat instead of three!

Chinees now on days are much concentrated in making huge amount of money and they are so rich that even the Bushney,s have began to borrow money from them to buy oil for America! I am totaly sure they dont bother taking back Taiwan by military power and they will surely do it if they want and they are not scared I am sure. Taiwan is not a real country for it self and many Taiwanees are actually going toward China friendly movements and they are really igore to get better economichal relations with their mother land , China knows it very well and as chiness always do....they are patience and know it will happen soon.



I'm sure Taiwan would love to be a part of Red China. rolling on the floor laughing
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 7:03 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
I'm sure Taiwan would love to be a part of Red China.

You will see Indyfella sticking out tongue
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Indyfella
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 7:07 PM CST


I could see where Denmark might want to be a part of Red China. Ya'll have similiar philosophies.applause
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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 7:25 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
I could see where Denmark might want to be a part of Red China. Ya'll have similiar philosophies.

Yeah yeah what ever Indyfella!

Taiwan is a part of China .....Read history some times !Exactly as Hongkong! I am telling you, wait and you will be amased I am right a bout this one as well!

In Taiwan there is a very strong anti communism group called WACL which was made around 1966... I guess.....the group used to have a lot influence in that provins and in every thing which was decided there as well, but the amount of that influence has gone down dramatichally and now many Taiwanees want to be in peace with China and becoming one.

As a matter of fact a lot american weapon tecnology has moved to china because of the exact same reason and as more sofisticated weapons americans giving to Taiwan, as stronger China gets as result! My humble mening But I am really right a bout this one!

In the world to day money talks Indy! Red money or Blue money does not matter! Some years more then the matter is settled! China can occupiy the whole place fast easy but they dont! No need for usage of power is neccesary. It is like chinees food ! The smell and look and excitement makes you come to the restaurant any way.....there is no need for too much advertisement! I know China is a country with a lot serious issues a bout lack of human rights but I also know that Chinees will do with taiwan as they did with Hongkong.....They will be much easier on Taiwanees and will give them a special gestus Hongkong style....

Wait and see conversing

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ttom500
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 7:55 PM CST
I remember talking to a Navy man recently. He was assigned to a aircraft carrier. They had a China threat of Taiwan during one of his deployments. Three aircraft battle fleets made it to the area.

They would rotate one thru the sea way separating mainland China and the Island.....while the other two remained in sea in reserve.
China found that they could not take them all on. And the crisis cooled.
They likely stopped a war......just by projected power.

More often than not project power if shown in the right way.....ends with a peaceful resolution of the problem. It gives time for the diplomats to work a resolution out.

GWB uses the term 'slow down' ...someone else uses a term recession.....are you enough of a economists to tell the difference?
I have a minor in econ......both were used interchangeably. Some of the markers show recession other only show a slowing. At this point either is fine to use.

Obama is going to face lies? Like the far left uses on McCain and GBW? The DNC chairman was ask about using part of McCains 100 year statement. But only a snippet. The rest....McCain say only if
American a not be killed...and it would be like our presence in Japan,
S. Korea, and Germany.....a security deployment. Twist and distort is the game now.

Obama is getting clobbered by his long time associations. All know that. But he made them. Could not sever them till recently. Why do you think he did that? Because even he realizes he has to come mid road....the sooner the better. But you know what? Why should mid road or mod America accept him? No reason to. He has not supported any mod position in the Senate his 4 years there.

So? Obama is a man of honor? A man of honor supports the men and women that are deployed into harms way. Even if it a 'bad war'. Obama visited them one time....had one committee hearing in his 4 years of Senate work. That is not supporting them. He does not understand the situation there.....

The world bleed because alot of it own doings....that have nothing to do with America. Ask the Russian and Chinese that are selling weapons like candy. Or it bleeds because some don't step to the plate and share thier fair share of the load.
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Indyfella
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Posted: May 4, 2008, 7:56 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Yeah yeah what ever Indyfella!

Taiwan is a part of China .....Read history some times !Exactly as Hongkong! I am telling you, wait and you will be amased I am right a bout this one as well!
In Taiwan there is a very strong anti communism group called WACL which was made around 1966... I guess.....the group used to have a lot influence in that provins and in every thing which was decided there as well, but the amount of that influence has gone down dramatichally and now many Taiwanees want to be in peace with China and becoming one.

As a matter of fact a lot american weapon tecnology has moved to china because of the exact same reason and as more sofisticated weapons americans giving to Taiwan, as stronger China gets as result! My humble mening But I am really right a bout this one!

In the world to day money talks Indy! Red money or Blue money does not matter! Some years more then the matter is settled! China can occupiy the whole place fast easy but they dont! No need for usage of power is neccesary. It is like chinees food ! The smell and look and excitement makes you come to the restaurant any way.....there is no need for too much advertisement! I know China is a country with a lot serious issues a bout lack of human rights but I also know that Chinees will do with taiwan as they did with Hongkong.....They will be much easier on Taiwanees and will give them a special gestus Hongkong style....

Wait and see


Give that...I guess France and Britain could reclaim the United States. D'oh!
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