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Soaring food prices. Can we blame someone?

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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 5:28 PM CST
Take your time and read it. We get what we ask for~~~

As the international disaster of ethanol begins taking its toll on the planet -- and, maybe more important, as press outlet after press outlet finally begins recognizing it -- will media remember that Vice President Al Gore cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate requiring this oxygenate be added to gasoline?

After all, regardless of recent reports blaming ethanol for world hunger problems, rising food costs, and increased greenhouse gases, it seems highly unlikely green media will want to tie any of these problems to Nobel Laureate Gore.Yet, as inconveniently reported by States News Service on August 3, 1994 (no link available, emphasis added throughout):

In a move that enraged midwestern senators, Louisiana Democratic Sen. Bennett Johnston tried Wednesday to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from mandating the use of ethanol in reformulated gasoline. The Senate narrowly killed the measure, voting to table it by a margin of 51 to 50. With the vote tied, Vice President Al Gore had to come in and cast the deciding vote. [...]
"This is really a gigantic flim flam to the American public," Johnston said. [...]

Under the Clean Air Act, the nation's nine smoggiest cities must begin reducing auto emissions by using a cleaner-burning fuel known as reformulated gasoline in January. Reformulated gasoline contains more oxygen than regular fuel.

Until the EPA announced its decision last month, oil refiners had a choice of boosting oxygen in reformulated gasoline with either ethanol or MTBE (methyl tertiary butyl ether), a petroleum derivative. MTBE is made from natural gas. The nation's major oil companies have natural gas facilities, many of which are overseas. [...]

During the four-hour debate, opponents of the ethanol mandate said the measure contains hidden costs. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated the policy would cost the government $249 million during the next five years. The congressional Joint Committee on Taxation has predicted the ethanol rule would drain $545 million from the national highway trust fund each year.

"It's highway robbery," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. "It's nothing less."

Besides Gore, take a look at who else was DEAD wrong on this issue:


[Democratic Illinois Sen. Paul] Simon added that the ethanol mandate would not increase costs for consumers.
"The price of corn flakes isn't going to go up by one penny," he said. "Don't think you're helping consumers by voting for the amendment by my friend from Louisiana."

I beg to differ, Senator. As my colleague Paul Detrick reported on April 4 (emphasis added):

You're going to need a few extra bucks to pay for those corn flakes every morning.

CNN's senior business correspondent Ali Velshi let viewers in on an underreported fact about rising commodities prices: the government mandate for ethanol production is making corn and other agricultural products more expensive-making inflation a top priority for Americans.

"Several years ago, we made some decisions about how corn is going to be used to make ethanol, which is added to our gasoline," said Velshi on "American Morning" April 4. "A number of people think that that was meant to reduce our dependency on crude oil. What is does is it takes what is fundamentally a food source and makes it into a gasoline source. That's caused corn to go up."

He went on to explain that in the recent food commodities surge, which includes products like wheat, soybeans and rice, corn has gone up to $6 a bushel-making everything from animal feed to cereal more expensive.

At least we have oxygenated gas now. laugh Hell with high food prices. laugh
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 5:28 PM CST
OOPS~ Courtesy of NewBusters. I forgot crying
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Someplace, Ontario Canada
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 5:30 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
OOPS~ Courtesy of NewBusters. I forgot


Yes I'll just blame you....how's that...nice and simple!!!!!!!!!!


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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 5:31 PM CST
everything wrong in the world...we will blame on GW Bush!!
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kidatheart
Southern BC/Lamont, Alberta Canada
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 5:34 PM CST
Some poor little piglet is probably starving somewhere so Al can make a buck.crying
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 5:37 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:


As the international disaster of ethanol begins taking its toll on the planet -- and, maybe more important, as press outlet after press outlet finally begins recognizing it -- will media remember that Vice President Al Gore cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate requiring this oxygenate be added to gasoline?

After all, regardless of recent reports blaming ethanol for world hunger problems, rising food costs, and increased greenhouse gases, it seems highly unlikely green media will want to tie any of these problems to Nobel Laureate Gore. Yet, as inconveniently reported by States News Service on August 3, 1994

In a move that enraged midwestern senators, Louisiana Democratic Sen. Bennett Johnston tried Wednesday to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from mandating the use of ethanol in reformulated gasoline . The Senate narrowly killed the measure, voting to table it by a margin of 51 to 50. With the vote tied, Vice President Al Gore had to come in and cast the deciding vote.
"This is really a gigantic flim flam to the American public ," Johnston said.

Under the Clean Air Act, the nation's nine smoggiest cities must begin reducing auto emissions by using a cleaner-burning fuel known as reformulated gasoline in January. Reformulated gasoline contains more oxygen than regular fuel.

Until the EPA announced its decision last month, oil refiners had a choice of boosting oxygen in reformulated gasoline with either ethanol or MTBE (methyl tertiary butyl ether), a petroleum derivative. MTBE is made from natural gas. The nation's major oil companies have natural gas facilities, many of which are overseas.

During the four-hour debate, opponents of the ethanol mandate said the measure contains hidden costs. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated the policy would cost the government $249 million during the next five years. The congressional Joint Committee on Taxation has predicted the ethanol rule would drain $545 million from the national highway trust fund each year.

"It's highway robbery," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. "It's nothing less."

Besides Gore, take a look at who else was DEAD wrong on this issue:[Democratic Illinois Sen. Paul] Simon added that the ethanol mandate would not increase costs for consumers.
"The price of corn flakes isn't going to go up by one penny," he said. "Don't think you're helping consumers by voting for the amendment by my friend from Louisiana."

I beg to differ, Senator. As my colleague Paul Detrick reported on April 4

You're going to need a few extra bucks to pay for those corn flakes every morning.

CNN's senior business correspondent Ali Velshi let viewers in on an underreported fact about rising commodities prices: the government mandate for ethanol production is making corn and other agricultural products more expensive-making inflation a top priority for Americans.

"Several years ago, we made some decisions about how corn is going to be used to make ethanol, which is added to our gasoline," said Velshi on "American Morning" April 4. "A number of people think that that was meant to reduce our dependency on crude oil. What is does is it takes what is fundamentally a food source and makes it into a gasoline source. That's caused corn to go up."

He went on to explain that in the recent food commodities surge, which includes products like wheat, soybeans and rice, corn has gone up to $6 a bushel-making everything from animal feed to cereal more expensive.

At least we have oxygenated gas now. Hell with high food prices.

That's why I went down to Geneva the other day,to slap the piss out of some Officials at the Federal Institute of Technology.
They made OWLGORE an Honorary Doctordropping jaw D'oh! very mad
Then the Temporary(for 1 year only) President of the Federal Cabinet congratulated OWLbarfing uh oh! mumbling sick
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gingerb
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:04 PM CST
we create a demand, we pay the price.
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bodleing
Greater Manchester, England UK
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:08 PM CST
I blame fat peopleprofessor





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patrickthomas
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:14 PM CST
bodleing wrote:
I blame fat people


Did you know that Americans spend three times what it would take to alleviate world hunger on losing weight!

(And please don't accuse me of US bashing, they are the only stats I have right now and am sure the same applies to Europe and elsewhere)
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:15 PM CST
bodleing wrote:
I blame fat people



Watch it buddy....there are more of us that of you!!very mad




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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:17 PM CST
bodleing wrote:
I blame fat people
You don't want all of us to FALL on you???rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing laugh wave
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bodleing
Greater Manchester, England UK
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:18 PM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
Watch it buddy....there are more of us that of you!!


Pound for pound...i think you might be right!!sticking out tongue







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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:22 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Take your time and read it. We get what we ask for~~~

As the international disaster of ethanol begins taking its toll on the planet -- and, maybe more important, as press outlet after press outlet finally begins recognizing it -- will media remember that Vice President Al Gore cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate requiring this oxygenate be added to gasoline?

After all, regardless of recent reports blaming ethanol for world hunger problems, rising food costs, and increased greenhouse gases, it seems highly unlikely green media will want to tie any of these problems to Nobel Laureate Gore. Yet, as inconveniently reported by States News Service on August 3, 1994 (no link available, emphasis added throughout):

In a move that enraged midwestern senators, Louisiana Democratic Sen. Bennett Johnston tried Wednesday to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from mandating the use of ethanol in reformulated gasoline . The Senate narrowly killed the measure, voting to table it by a margin of 51 to 50. With the vote tied, Vice President Al Gore had to come in and cast the deciding vote. [...]
"This is really a gigantic flim flam to the American public ," Johnston said. [...]

Under the Clean Air Act, the nation's nine smoggiest cities must begin reducing auto emissions by using a cleaner-burning fuel known as reformulated gasoline in January. Reformulated gasoline contains more oxygen than regular fuel.

Until the EPA announced its decision last month, oil refiners had a choice of boosting oxygen in reformulated gasoline with either ethanol or MTBE (methyl tertiary butyl ether), a petroleum derivative. MTBE is made from natural gas. The nation's major oil companies have natural gas facilities, many of which are overseas. [...]

During the four-hour debate, opponents of the ethanol mandate said the measure contains hidden costs. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated the policy would cost the government $249 million during the next five years. The congressional Joint Committee on Taxation has predicted the ethanol rule would drain $545 million from the national highway trust fund each year.

"It's highway robbery," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. "It's nothing less."

Besides Gore, take a look at who else was DEAD wrong on this issue:[Democratic Illinois Sen. Paul] Simon added that the ethanol mandate would not increase costs for consumers.
"The price of corn flakes isn't going to go up by one penny," he said. "Don't think you're helping consumers by voting for the amendment by my friend from Louisiana."

I beg to differ, Senator. As my colleague Paul Detrick reported on April 4 (emphasis added):

You're going to need a few extra bucks to pay for those corn flakes every morning.

CNN's senior business correspondent Ali Velshi let viewers in on an underreported fact about rising commodities prices: the government mandate for ethanol production is making corn and other agricultural products more expensive-making inflation a top priority for Americans.

"Several years ago, we made some decisions about how corn is going to be used to make ethanol, which is added to our gasoline," said Velshi on "American Morning" April 4. "A number of people think that that was meant to reduce our dependency on crude oil. What is does is it takes what is fundamentally a food source and makes it into a gasoline source. That's caused corn to go up."

He went on to explain that in the recent food commodities surge, which includes products like wheat, soybeans and rice, corn has gone up to $6 a bushel-making everything from animal feed to cereal more expensive.

At least we have oxygenated gas now. Hell with high food prices.

Whom wrote this shit? Neal Boortz? rolling on the floor laughing
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:28 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Whom wrote this shit? Neal Boortz?
Congressional Records,Dumbo!!!!professor rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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patrickthomas
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:32 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Whom wrote this shit? Neal Boortz?

This is who wrote it.
Noel Sheppard is an economist, business owner, and Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/04/22/will-media-remember-gores-1994-tie-breaking-vote-mandating-ethanol
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StressFree
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:32 PM CST
Yes, the system.rolling eyes
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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:37 PM CST
patrickthomas wrote:
This is who wrote it.
Noel Sheppard is an economist, business owner, and Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/04/22/will-media-remember-gores-1994-tie-breaking-vote-mandating-ethanol


ty Patrick.....

I will take a look
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:41 PM CST
SHIT; THE RED TENT BRIGADE IS OUT IN FULL FORCE AGAIN THIS MORNING!!!help devil
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:47 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
we create a demand, we pay the price.




Even then...I think there's a lot of speculating going on in the markets. JMO
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:49 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Whom wrote this shit? Neal Boortz?



Nope, but it's another good source. Problem is.....the friggin truth hurts. Gore fucked up again. rolling on the floor laughing

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