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Soaring food prices. Can we blame someone?

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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:50 PM CST
patrickthomas wrote:
Did you know that Americans spend three times what it would take to alleviate world hunger on losing weight!

(And please don't accuse me of US bashing, they are the only stats I have right now and am sure the same applies to Europe and elsewhere)



While you were looking up the stats, come up with any good diets?


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Hot_Single_Dude
Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:53 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Nope, but it's another good source. Problem is.....the friggin truth hurts. Gore fucked up again.


Oh my Indyfella......

I am really not wonder a bout your Sources making you think as you think!

Where do you find all these odd dudes? Gosh!

God saves us all if majority of americans listening to those types one more time!



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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:55 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Oh my Indyfella......

I am really not wonder a bout your Sources making you think as you think!

Where do you find all these odd dudes? Gosh!

God saves us all if majority of americans listening to those types one more time!


Now show me where it's inaccurate. It's sourced to the congressional record. Damn, can't stand it when something is put at the feet of an Obamaski type, can ya?
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 6:56 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Oh my Indyfella......

I am really not wonder a bout your Sources making you think as you think!

Where do you find all these odd dudes? Gosh!

God saves us all if majority of americans listening to those types one more time!




Since you're an athiest, I think i'd wish in one hand and shit in the other. See which one gets full first.laugh
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prncss4someone
Hopeful, Michigan USA
Posted: Apr 24, 2008, 7:12 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Take your time and read it. We get what we ask for~~~

As the international disaster of ethanol begins taking its toll on the planet -- and, maybe more important, as press outlet after press outlet finally begins recognizing it -- will media remember that Vice President Al Gore cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate requiring this oxygenate be added to gasoline?

After all, regardless of recent reports blaming ethanol for world hunger problems, rising food costs, and increased greenhouse gases, it seems highly unlikely green media will want to tie any of these problems to Nobel Laureate Gore. Yet, as inconveniently reported by States News Service on August 3, 1994 (no link available, emphasis added throughout):

In a move that enraged midwestern senators, Louisiana Democratic Sen. Bennett Johnston tried Wednesday to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from mandating the use of ethanol in reformulated gasoline . The Senate narrowly killed the measure, voting to table it by a margin of 51 to 50. With the vote tied, Vice President Al Gore had to come in and cast the deciding vote. [...]
"This is really a gigantic flim flam to the American public ," Johnston said. [...]

Under the Clean Air Act, the nation's nine smoggiest cities must begin reducing auto emissions by using a cleaner-burning fuel known as reformulated gasoline in January. Reformulated gasoline contains more oxygen than regular fuel.

Until the EPA announced its decision last month, oil refiners had a choice of boosting oxygen in reformulated gasoline with either ethanol or MTBE (methyl tertiary butyl ether), a petroleum derivative. MTBE is made from natural gas. The nation's major oil companies have natural gas facilities, many of which are overseas. [...]

During the four-hour debate, opponents of the ethanol mandate said the measure contains hidden costs. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated the policy would cost the government $249 million during the next five years. The congressional Joint Committee on Taxation has predicted the ethanol rule would drain $545 million from the national highway trust fund each year.

"It's highway robbery," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. "It's nothing less."

Besides Gore, take a look at who else was DEAD wrong on this issue:[Democratic Illinois Sen. Paul] Simon added that the ethanol mandate would not increase costs for consumers.
"The price of corn flakes isn't going to go up by one penny," he said. "Don't think you're helping consumers by voting for the amendment by my friend from Louisiana."

I beg to differ, Senator. As my colleague Paul Detrick reported on April 4 (emphasis added):

You're going to need a few extra bucks to pay for those corn flakes every morning.

CNN's senior business correspondent Ali Velshi let viewers in on an underreported fact about rising commodities prices: the government mandate for ethanol production is making corn and other agricultural products more expensive-making inflation a top priority for Americans.

"Several years ago, we made some decisions about how corn is going to be used to make ethanol, which is added to our gasoline," said Velshi on "American Morning" April 4. "A number of people think that that was meant to reduce our dependency on crude oil. What is does is it takes what is fundamentally a food source and makes it into a gasoline source. That's caused corn to go up."

He went on to explain that in the recent food commodities surge, which includes products like wheat, soybeans and rice, corn has gone up to $6 a bushel-making everything from animal feed to cereal more expensive.

At least we have oxygenated gas now. Hell with high food prices.





drinking blame the greedy bastards who are multiplying too rapidly.............
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 25, 2008, 5:37 AM CST
prncss4someone wrote:
blame the greedy bastards who are multiplying too rapidly.............



BY GOD! frustrated laugh
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 1:31 PM CST
Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Oh my Indyfella......

I am really not wonder a bout your Sources making you think as you think!

Where do you find all these odd dudes? Gosh!

God saves us all if majority of americans listening to those types one more time!



Well, Neal does provide general access to a lot of my sources. Afterall, he's the 3rd most listened to talk show host in America. applause
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StressFree
SF Bay Area/Las Vegas, California USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 1:32 PM CST
shuter down for the weekend...the world is ending anyways.....later....
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 1:33 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
shuter down for the weekend...the world is ending anyways.....later....



The world will never end. We may though laugh
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StressFree
SF Bay Area/Las Vegas, California USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 1:37 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
The world will never end. We may though


Cock in hand?
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Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 1:43 PM CST
Farmers resorting to grow corn for ethanol is not the only source of our problem of world hunger and rising food prices.
I put much of the blame on MONSANTO!!!

Please read my thread today titled: Worldwide Famine and Starvation


Monsanto has been contributing to the food crises for many years.

It is Monsanto's Fault!!!
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 2:00 PM CST
HealthyLiving wrote:
Farmers resorting to grow corn for ethanol is not the only source of our problem of world hunger and rising food prices.
I put much of the blame on MONSANTO!!!

Please read my thread today titled: Worldwide Famine and StarvationMonsanto has been contributing to the food crises for many years.

It is Monsanto's Fault!!!




Better check my monsanto stock, it may sink due to this thread
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Sparky55
Prattville, Alabama USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 2:14 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Nope, but it's another good source. Problem is.....the friggin truth hurts. Gore fucked up again.


C'mon Indy. As far as I'm concerned Gore = "F#!%$@ Up Again" Using both terms in the same sentance is somewhat redundant and repetative laugh Just say Gore. Come to think of it, why isn't he running for President. Seems all the really bright people are.
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cutelildevilsmom
portsmouth, New Hampshire USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 2:52 PM CST
bodleing wrote:
I blame fat people



watch out buddy..sticking out tongue
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cutelildevilsmom
portsmouth, New Hampshire USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 2:54 PM CST
patrickthomas wrote:
Did you know that Americans spend three times what it would take to alleviate world hunger on losing weight!

(And please don't accuse me of US bashing, they are the only stats I have right now and am sure the same applies to Europe and elsewhere)



thats because so called diet food costs three times as much as regular food so f@#$k it I'll stay fat and saasy thanx.
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tampa1
London, Ontario Canada
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 2:58 PM CST
cutelildevilsmom wrote:
thats because so called diet food costs three times as much as regular food so f@#$k it I'll stay fat and saasy thanx.



Lmao...You tell them Jax.....thumbs up
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newinsouth
Aiken, South Carolina USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 3:54 PM CST
gingerb wrote:
we create a demand, we pay the price.


In more ways than one. If everyone did manage to cut their demand for gas, utilities, food. Do you think the prices would go down??? Not likely. Prices would have to be raised to cover the decrease.
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shipoker55
St. Petersburg, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 4:06 PM CST
shipoker55 wrote:
everything wrong in the world...we will blame on GW Bush!!




And all that is good in the world......the credit goes to Bob Dylan!!
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 27, 2008, 1:35 PM CST
newinsouth wrote:
In more ways than one. If everyone did manage to cut their demand for gas, utilities, food. Do you think the prices would go down??? Not likely. Prices would have to be raised to cover the decrease.


I'm not sure I agree with your premise. If that's the case, nothing would ever go down in price. That does happen.
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friendsfirst
Burbank, Illinois USA
Posted: Apr 27, 2008, 1:54 PM CST
BLAME the FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD.
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