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Only if Mike Milehouse (infamous MM Enterprises) begins with the French and Germans....wonder if we can contract him to to Iraq......
go after Al-Sadyr and his Madii Brigade. I here he might sit on the Blackwater Security board as well.

Please don't do that, I just made some soap for a female friend of mine with lemons and olive oil, I could be in there as long as the lemons and oil is still available.

It would not be the first time I have looked down the wrong end of a firearm and it has never done anything to sway my opinions and at this stage it never will.

I know it is a greasy pole and a damm difficult one, but maybe we should be looking at the people around us and encouraging them to get involved in politics.

We keep knocking what exists and it is as easy as shooting fish in a barrels. We need new ideas of how to deal with old problems and the problems seem the same Worldwide.

I really think you got something here and this has to be one of the most positive statements I have seen in here. It makes perfect sense that believing in ourselves and the transfer of knowledge between us will ultimately lead us to a World that is simply free of War and Starvation.

It is so easy for each of us to get bogged down in argument and rhetoric and forget the basic fundamentals of what everyone in this `World has a fundamental right to.

It makes all of our political boundaries look primitive and parochial.

The more you look at the detail of how Government's do their business it really does make you think MM Enterprises has already been exported to everywhere!!

I'm sure Homeland Security is run by them, as are the policy makers inside the Whitehouse When it comes to the so called peace process in the middle east.

MM took over the banking system long ago, after all it doesnt make any sense to borrow 20 times against any assets you have.That's insane.

Commander in Chief, well....the current one can read baby books upside down apparently but cant Read Intelligence reports from the CIA.

In Europe we have a really fine example, the "Common Agricultural Policy".We subsidise people not to grow food, with olive tree's that never even existed. and have road building programmes in Ireland that go to nowhere, just to use budgets up.The corruption is endemic to a scale where they dont even know how much fraud is happening, and guess what nobody looks at the budgets!! No oversite or enquiry at all.

We stockpile butter then dump it.We ration the supply of Diamonds onto the world market to keep prices artifically high.

Stand back and take a look.Its absolutely everywhere, wherever you look.

The inmates have taken over the Asylum.

If we put Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck in charge they would find it hard to do a worse job of cleaning up all this mess.

So we got our bad habits from the motherland, huh?

We have Roads that go nowhere? Where are they? Do you have any facts and figures on this?

These are old habits no doubt, I think it's time to leave them behind

I just heard a business report today that a major developer is researching doing a $500m theme park resort.............in................
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..........................................ready for this........................Baghad, Iraq

Mickie better carry a M-16 and be dressed in body armor. Minnie will need to wear a Burka, and Goofie will come with a flight suit!

Please tell me you are joking, is this to go with the 104 acre Embassy?

"The chairman of C3, a holding company based in LA, Mr Werner, has announced plans to pour millions of dollars of investors money into creating a theme park for the Iraqi capital of Baghdad.

Mr Wernert told reporters "'The people of Iraq need this kind of positive influence. It’s going to have a huge psychological impact."

The Baghdad Zoo and Entertainment Experience will be located beside the green zone on the plot previously occupied by the Baghdad Zoo and will be designed by the company that developed Disneyland ."

I have no idea how reliable this is but there it is.

[quote=patrickthomas]"The chairman of C3, a holding company based in LA, Mr Werner, has announced plans to pour millions of dollars of investors money into creating a theme park for the Iraqi capital of Baghdad.

Mr Wernert told reporters "'The people of Iraq need this kind of positive influence. It’s going to have a huge psychological impact."

The Baghdad Zoo and Entertainment Experience will be located beside the green zone on the plot previously occupied by the Baghdad Zoo and will be designed by the company that developed Disneyland ."

I have no idea how reliable this is but there it is.[/quote

I did not read the report.....but that sounds right. Do we know how to reconstruct a country or do we know how to reconstruct a country!

Mainstreet.........its a small small world.......10000 leagues under the ocean.......tommorow land........fontierland..........majic mountian.......
and the tea cup ride. Toss in suciede bombers....car bombs.....motar attacks.....snipers.........IEDs....... how much fun can you have at 3 days at a resort?

Only in America! Well OK only in Iraq......but direct from America.

Maybe we should consider medical facilities, water utilities, libraries, schools first?

I honestly don't know Tom but without a doubt some things have to change in this World of ours if we expect to reach the next millenium with any level of dignity.

On a personal note, keep those citrus fruits watered, we do need them!

Food agency resources are stretched because rising fuel prices have increased the cost of transporting supplies and both public and private donations have started to fall.

The government used to buy large quantities of surplus farm commodities to support market prices, which it would distribute to food banks. As prices have climbed over the past four years these donations have dropped by 75 per cent, leaving food banks scrambling for resources.

“[Stores] are pretty empty right now,” said Lindsey Buss, president of Martha’s Table, a food charity in Washington.


Well, one person to ask for a small donation would be the Emir of Qatar, whoe personal income cut from fuel revenues is at some 30 million dollars per day. Like WTF does one do with that much per day...

Wow! as suspected great debate etc
and so much to get through but for my addition which may have already touched on is this ---
IMO

We are at a time where the US is going into recession. So spending which has supported the economic gain of much of the world is being curtailed

Whats different to the late eighties early nineties where third world debt was at exhastive levels

1/ The berlin wall has come down- russia is a huge economic power- ex states are
hugely part of the EU- another economic powerhouse

2/The war in the middle east - oil supplies protected- most middle east states - economic powerhouses

3/ China/India and others in SE Asia including Australia - economic powerhouses

4/ south American states -- huge economic gain from mineral and other exports

I have only scratched the eyes so to speak and there are other details which bear a mention but the gist is that it is the responsibility of other nations that have gained much wealth of the current slowing World Boom in taking care of the poorer nations

"I have only scratched the eyes so to speak and there are other details which bear a mention but the gist is that it is the responsibility of other nations that have gained much wealth of the current slowing World Boom in taking care of the poorer nations" quoted

Are you joking!? The attitude ...and altitude for the last several years, especially from the US Republicans and their Bush Regime has been , basically, 'F**k the old, the poor, the hungry, the homeless! Who needs them! They ain't good fer nuthin, let 'em all die!' Attitudes like that help establish a mind set, especially among other 'first world' countries. Given what firms, conglomerates and multi national corporations control the entire food productions industries around the world, plus the transport facilities and distribution systems, it is very easy to set up artificial bottlenecks, very easy to close down food production and curtail delivery of foods and hold them back thereby creating a manufactured and wholly artificial food shortage conveniently only solved by higher and higher prices...it is a State manufactured scenario right out of the Malthus school of economics...mass die offs of peoples the world over...the essence of the Malthus Theory of Economics...

Honestly, I think that it depends alot of where you are in the country.

Mom works a food pantry here once a month......they do about 130 families a week in food packages. She had not said anything about shortages here.

Also this. There is a India food store in MN, has started to have runs on rice. Normally they but 1 or 2 bag of 80-100 pound pers purchase.
About a 1 month worth. Now they are buying 5-10 per purchase and stocking. Store was not going to ration.

For our large agi operaitons, fuel is a critical issue. They run many diesel powered, high hp vehicles, often have transport to take the product to processing, have personal vehicles. It is a refinery issue.
The Gov't has a oil reserve of some 750m barrels. But our ability to refine it is limited. We have not build a refinery in 15 years.

We will make it. A country boy can survive.:-) We all might all be out fishing for catfish.......but we will survive.;-)

I have real feeling that this country would support a isolation in the this global millenium or new world order that gets talked of. Most of our elderly (70+)are totally for it. Examples.

My dad, a WWII vet would not buy a foreign a car if it was a $1 sale.
I know of situation where some Japanese walked into a restraunt, and the WWII vet that had been a prisoner of them. Got up and walked out. These are not issues of economics. These are deep bitterness and scares carried for 50 years now.

Many in my generation, tried to make the bridge to the rest of the world work. Post Vet Nam. But the vast majority of American business is family owned small business, what your parents went thru is handed down to the son and daughters.

I counted it up. I was in the service beginning in 1980. Since that date, the US has a total of 6 years without some major military operation, conflict, wars, or such not going on......6 of 29 years were peace. 23 were with conflicts and wars. That is including the cold war as a conflict.

Of my church of 900........over 30 are in the service and over 20 are deployed.

What I am saying is this.When a society stays under a constant pressure of conflict a lot of strange phemonea is shown.....from school shooting, to riots, to structural problems. Eventually the society will withdrawl....shut down.....just a like a person will. It will also look to their most proven leaders for direction and purpose....our elderly. That happens, the US will become isolationist again as it was post WWI.

Our elderly are our patriarchs. They very well could lead us into this position of isolation again. Sure the gov't will be promoting both tourism and trade. But reality is this that these elderly men and women are very individualistic, very proud, very independant. They will look inward to the country and not out into the world. They do choose this course.......America will look inward and this global millineuem and new world order that many speak......will not have many red white blue flags in it.

Soli -- Thanks for pointing out my over sight

--- I meant to infer it is not just for the US to bear this burden it is also for the other "'Gainers" of the US Republican stance/ policies in the World stage