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Protesters closed off the main route to the town of Deseronto last week after a land developer threatened to go in and develop land which he was sold but has already been recognized by the government as Mohawk land and currently under negotiation. There is precedent that says that no land under land claim can be developed until things are settled and the land is found not to be Native land.



The Ontario Provincial Police moved in on Tuesday 300 strong against 35 protesters and broke the protest up in an excessive show of force.



The protesters then moved back to this area, which they have been occupying for months under the leadership of Shawn Brant, a well known Native activist. This area was being developed as well and is also currently under land claim negotiations, which is the reason for the occupation by protesters.




Shawn Brant.....



The Ontario Provincial Police have just surrounded the quarry area and also arrested activist Shawn Brant today and it seems they are also trying to provoke some sort of altercation.




There was a report that was just released less than a year ago after the murder of this man Dudley George by an Ontario Provincial Police Officer at a similar protest with similar show of force.





So yeah I'm a little nervous...I don't want to see anyone get hurt because events seem to be unfolding in my community that are almost identical that led to the murder of an innocent man by police.....

Have to wonder who the OPP and the RCMP really work for. Their Gestapo tactics are getting a liitle heavy handed.

Exactly and the thing is...the recommendations of that report basicly say that...and here they are up to the same thing...not to mention they were found to be racist during the same enquiry.....So it just doesn't bode well right now....

This is one of the recommendations from the final report into the death of Dudley George:


"Police services should promote peacekeeping, including minimizing the risk of violence, preserve public order, remain neutral as to the underlying grievance."

That was years ago and I'm sure they believe that the public has forgotten all about it.
Same thing with all those people that were taken for car rides to the middle of nowhere to freeze to death in Saskatchewan.
Same as the RCMP staging bombings to frame Ludwig here in Alberta.
Same as....

Well, you already know and likely remember, but how many others do.

Doesn't seem like many care what they do so long as they're not doing it to them.

I remember that and his death was years ago BUT the final report of the enguiry was just released last June...so it should be still fresh on people's minds...there were alot of shocked people after reading that report because the way the O.P.P. said the events unfolded and the way they actually unfolded were 2 different things...there was not one armed person present like they tried to say...not one firearm was ever found and they were chastised for it....They currently have 600 police on standby I am told...I have access to inside info to what's been happening....

Police reports are always accurate! ooops! This isn't the sarcasm thread.

Funny how they never figured out who shot those kids on Ludwig's farm. I guess the RCMP didn't really want to report that they were involved. Easier not to make a report if it doesn't put them into a good light. Unsolved cases are easier to shuffle under the carpet.

Yes they are always accurate...to what they want you to hear...and definitely unsolved cases when police are involved are the way to go....Well if it weren't for this enquiry and the truth coming out...Dudley Georges shooting would have looked jusified....but still I think the cop that shot him got house arrest and community hours and that was it....BUT karma did end up taking it's toll when he was killed in an accident on the 401 hwy a few years ago.....

This was as of 3 hours ago..Police are already trying to say they are armed....

Six Nations protesters close Hwy. 6 bypass to Caledonia


April 25, 2008
By John Burman

CALEDONIA - More than 100 Six Nations residents closed the Highway 6 bypass at the Sixth Line bridge late Friday to protest OPP action against Mohawks occupying a quarry near Deseronto, Ont., earlier in the day.
“People are upset because people are being arrested,” said one Six Nations resident who had been at the scene.
The move is the first recent road blockade in the Caledonia land claims dispute which two years ago saw Argyle Street blocked for more than a month following an attempt to remove protesters from the disputed Douglas Creek Estates subdivision.
Caledonia Mayor Marie Trainer said Friday night the move brings back bad memories.
“Hopefully it will be short and hopefully we are not taking a step back two years,” Trainer said.
Negotiations to settle the land dispute have been grinding on since the summer of 2006 but tensions in Caledonia have eased considerably in that time as well.
Witnesses said about 60 Six Nations protesters moved onto the highway and used cars and pickup trucks to block the road which skirts the southern edge of the reserve.
More continued to pour into the area throughout the evening.
“There was a meeting this afternoon and it was decided to take this action in support of the people at of Mohawks at Tyendinaga (Deseronto),” one explained.
She could not say how long the road, a busy artery between Hamilton and Haldimand and Norfolk, could be blocked.
Trainer, who was on her way to a community prayer meeting at the high school supporting peace in the town, said she understood the OPP closed the bypass at the Argyle Street intersection on the west side of town and Green’s Road on the east side.
In Deseronto, Mohawk protesters and provincial police were involved in a tense standoff after officers said they spotted at least one gun among the demonstrators.
The OPP said they saw a “long gun” being pointed at them from a location inside an occupied quarry, which protesters have controlled since March 2007, but those occupying the quarry said they had no weapons there.
An order was issued to police personnel on the scene to take cover, and guns were drawn by officers crouching behind their vehicles.
No shots were fired and the action ended mid-evening with six arrests, including that of Shawn Brant, who had been under a court order to stay away from any protests after being involved in last June's national aboriginal day of action which saw the closure of Highway 401 in the area.

Tense native standoff ends; six protesters arrested
Canadian Press

April 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM EDT

DESERONTO, Ont. — Mohawk protesters and provincial police officers were involved in a tense standoff in Deseronto, Ont., on Friday after officers said they spotted at least one gun among the demonstrators.

Police say they saw a “long gun” being pointed at them from a location inside an occupied quarry, which protesters have controlled since March, 2007.

The protesters said they had no weapons at the quarry.

An order was issued to all police personnel on the scene to take cover, and guns were drawn by officers crouching behind their vehicles, but no shots were fired.


Protester Jason Maracle said they will refuse all orders to leave what they consider to be Mohawk land.

“We're not moving anywhere,” he said. “They're going have to kill every God damn one of us to get us off our land. We're not moving. ... I guess if they want another 1990 scene, then OK, I guess we'll have one.”

Mr. Maracle was referring to the 1990 Oka crisis in Quebec, when Mohawks staged a violent standoff with police after officers raided an aboriginal barricade set up to protest the expansion of a golf course onto land claimed by the natives. A Quebec provincial police officer was shot and killed when a SWAT team stormed the barricade.

Earlier Friday, half a dozen protesters were arrested, including Shawn Brant, who had been under a court order to stay away from any protests or acts of civil disobedience following his involvement in last June's aboriginal national day of action.

Also arrested was Dan Doreen, the leader of a group that erected a blockade Sunday on Deseronto's main road.

About 75 Mohawk protesters shut down the road to protest a land dispute with Nibourg Developments. The disputed land is part of a claim accepted by the federal government for negotiation in 2003.

Deseronto has been the target of several aboriginal protests in the past.

A group of Tyendinaga Mohawks led by Brant shut down Highway 401 for 11 hours and blockaded the Montreal-Toronto rail corridor for last year's day of action.

A similar blockade of the same busy rail line– also led by Mr. Brant – lasted 30 hours last April, ending peacefully after a night of negotiations with provincial police and other officials.

This isn't over though the way these reports make it sound...The police are still there armed with automatic weapons and have armed checkpoints set up around the area...there are still protesters also inside occupying the quarry...Also reports that some kids who were arrested and beaten by the police and their parents being arrested when they went to check on their son...those could be rumour...BUT the same actions occurred during the stand off where Dudley George was killed.....

Thought this was suppose to be a peaceful protest? Are the protesters armed?

This was as of 3 hours ago..Police are already trying to say they are armed....



Typical. Many years ago when I lived in Toronto, an RCMP officer said to me that "We always consider Indians armed...as long as they have 2 arms, they're armed..."
Sounds like the Custer attitude. Good luck to the Protesters; guess they'll have to have their own police force...

No Police Force need maybe if it was not taken from the Native population in the first place

Correct me if I'm wrong

No they aren't armed...and it is and has been peaceful up to the arrest of 6 people today...the police are reporting that they saw a long barrell weapon inside the quarry...NOT true none of the protesters are armed...in the Ipperwash stand-off where Dudley George was killed they said the same thing and used that as an exscuse to deply the riot squad which lead to the murder of unarmed protester Dudley George whom they tried to say was armed too and they never found one weapon inside the Ipperwash compound!!!!!!!!!!

We do have our own police....but because the land under claim is outside of the boundaries of the reserve....because it is still under negotiation as far as compensaton etc so hasn't officially been turned back into reserve land yet...It is under the O.P.P jurisdiction....

Now that is just crazy!! Hope no one gets hurt and like Midship says should of never been taken away from them in the first place!!

True..this is just one of the many land claims going on in Canada right now and the protest is only because the government has sold it off to a developer going against it's own land claim procedures and he is now attempting to develop land that the government has aleady admitted belongs to the Mohawks....

I know it is crazy...I read the whole Ipperwash report and the parralells of the police actions then and now are just uncanny!!!!!!!!!!


I hope nobody gets hurt too...which could be a good bet with all the provocation going on at the moment.....

Will keep the protesters in my thoughts and prayers!!