Do you believe Atlantis existed?

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Do you believe Atlantis existed?

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StressFree
SF Bay Area/Las Vegas, California USA
Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 12:24 PM CST
Many have called it merely a myth, a legend, yet it has persisted. I have always thought that even a myth or conspiracy has some basis in truth.
Atlantis was not a single continent, city ,or place. It was a name given to the world as a whole at that time.
The name became associated with the most developed part of the civilization. But all of the world was not at the same level, similar to ours at the present time. This remarkable civilization existed for thousands of years, so it underwent many changes as it rose to the highest advances mankind was capable of achieving, and then descended in its gradual deterioration and downfall. The leaders became corrupt and led Atlantis to it's destruction via the use of experiments of negative energies that caused huge seismic activity that led to volcanic eruptions, major earthquakes and tidal waves that washed everything over.

Plato wrote an account in 347 BC of a kingdom vanished from the face of earth centuries before the birth of Jesus. The source of legends about the great civilization Atlantis? I believe it existed without a doubt.

Here is a following list of the type of culture Atlantis was:

-They did not base their culture on metal, the way we do. They believed in using materials as close to the original condition as when they obtained them(stone, clay). They found that the more something is manufactured and altered from its original form, the more out-of-harmony it is with the universe, and the vibrations it loses.

-Their sciences developed directly into the manipulation of energies, so they could manipulate all types of energy, including such things as gravity. So they were able to erect buildings using huge blocks of stone that seem impossible to us with the basis and mind set of our civilization.

-Atlantis did not use machinery or equipment because they knew how to tune in to different types of energy flow and cause them to interact in such a way to cause things to happen the way they wanted them to happen.

-They communicated through telepathy and also verbally. Telepathy is a skill that can be developed today.

-They leaned how to stay balanced with their eating which eliminated many medical problems that we have today. They mainly ate a vegetable, high fiber type of diets and very little meat.

-The means of transportation during Atlantis was by levitation. They knew how to manipulate the energy and gravity. Crystal energy was used to power their crafts for travel.

-Their science of crystallography was extremely advanced in which they used for long range communication such as galactic communication. Crystal energy were also used for any kind of lighting and heating of homes.

-Atlanteans mastered the art of genetically altering the human body. Everything that is being experienced now on this planet was done during Atlantis. Genetically, they cloned animals and humans. This stopped because they found that this was not the appropriate thing to do because it interfered with the DNA of the human race. They also ventured into altering and combining their genes with animals. Centaurs(half man-half horse, mermaids, and harpies(half bird-half female) existed at one time or another due to genetic experiments. These experiments became forbidden due to the causing of disharmony and for the good of the race.

- Atlanteans also had the technology to produce quantity-quality fruits and vegetables independently. Their farming techniques(manipulation of energy) would make us look primitive today.

-The survivors fled to Egypt, and helped build that civilization as well as the pyramids. However, the knowledge was not carried on, and that is a whole other story in itself.
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DadofDucks
Wentzville, Missouri USA
Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 12:28 PM CST
I think there was a city Plato based his writtings on. I also believe he embelished on the truth a great deal and made i far more fantastic than it really was. He was a writter after all.
I think he very probably combined a few cultures and beliefs into one great city and then played off another event and ended his "story". The ending of the great city was a metephoric one, not an actual even.professor

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StressFree
SF Bay Area/Las Vegas, California USA
Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 12:38 PM CST
DadofDucks wrote:
I think there was a city Plato based his writtings on. I also believe he embelished on the truth a great deal and made i far more fantastic than it really was. He was a writter after all.
I think he very probably combined a few cultures and beliefs into one great city and then played off another event and ended his "story". The ending of the great city was a metephoric one, not an actual even.

IMO


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mastic55
Long Island, New York USA
Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 12:51 PM CST
The continent of Atlantis was an island
Which lay before the great flood
In the area we now call the Atlantic Ocean.
So great an area of land,
That from her western shores
Those beautiful sailors journeyed
To the South and the North Americas with ease,
In their ships with painted sails.
To them East Africa was a neighbour,
Across a short strait of sea miles.
The great Egyptian age is

But a remnant of The Atlantian culture.
The antediluvian kings colonised the world
All the Gods who play in the mythological dramas
In all legends from all lands were from far Atlantis.

Knowing her fate,
Atlantis sent out ships to all corners of the Earth.
On board were the Twelve:

The poet, the physician, The farmer, the scientist,
The magician and the other so-called Gods of our legends.
Though Gods they were -
And as the elders of our time choose to remain blind
Let us rejoice
And let us sing
And dance and ring in the new Hail Atlantis!

Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be.
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be.
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
I wanna see you some day
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
My antediluvian baby,
My antediluvian baby, I love you, girl,
Girl, I wanna see you some day.
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah
I wanna see you some day, oh My antediluvian baby.
My antediluvian baby, I wanna see you
My antediluvian baby, gotta tell me where she gone
I wanna see you some day Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up,
oh yeah Oh club club, down down, yeah
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
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StressFree
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Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 12:54 PM CST
mastic55 wrote:
The continent of Atlantis was an island
Which lay before the great flood
In the area we now call the Atlantic Ocean.
So great an area of land,
That from her western shores
Those beautiful sailors journeyed
To the South and the North Americas with ease,
In their ships with painted sails.
To them East Africa was a neighbour,
Across a short strait of sea miles.
The great Egyptian age is

But a remnant of The Atlantian culture.
The antediluvian kings colonised the world
All the Gods who play in the mythological dramas
In all legends from all lands were from far Atlantis.

Knowing her fate,
Atlantis sent out ships to all corners of the Earth.
On board were the Twelve:

The poet, the physician, The farmer, the scientist,
The magician and the other so-called Gods of our legends.
Though Gods they were -
And as the elders of our time choose to remain blind
Let us rejoice
And let us sing
And dance and ring in the new Hail Atlantis!

Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be.
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be.
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
I wanna see you some day
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
My antediluvian baby,
My antediluvian baby, I love you, girl,
Girl, I wanna see you some day.
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah
I wanna see you some day, oh My antediluvian baby.
My antediluvian baby, I wanna see you
My antediluvian baby, gotta tell me where she gone
I wanna see you some day Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up,
oh yeah Oh club club, down down, yeah
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah


You sicko....rolling on the floor laughing Is that what turns you on?...jk
Thanks for sharing that erotic rendition....
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mastic55
Long Island, New York USA
Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 12:57 PM CST
That was a song by Donovan in the 60"s..thumbs up
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dcj22
Manchester, Tennessee USA
Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 1:23 PM CST
I believe it existed, though I don't believe all that you do, such as the animal/people thingys.
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StressFree
SF Bay Area/Las Vegas, California USA
Posted: May 5, 2008, 8:00 PM CST
bump, thanks gingerb for putting up that Edgar Cayce link....I do remember his name from some books in regards to Atlantis and trying to uncover a hidden history.

I just went ahead a did a paste job here:

For some years A.R.E. members and the organization itself have conducted expeditions in search of ruins or any remains of the lost continent of Atlantis. The newest expeditions have been to Andros. Eight expeditions have been to Andros with the 2004 information posted here. In addition, there are 10 free Quicktime video clips from the video documentary available here. A report on the first 2004 expedition to Andros can be found here. Free video from both the Andros Platform and Bimini Road, taken after the 2004 hurricanes, can be found here. The most recent expedition was to both both Bimini and Andros with some spectacular finds made. Information and photos from that trip can be found here.

According to Cayce, Atlantis—located from the Gulf of Mexico to Gibraltar—was destroyed in a final catastrophic event circa 10,000 B.C. The focus of A.R.E. efforts has been in the Bimini area, however, other related locations have also been investigated. Research on the so-called Bimini Road has been hampered as researchers are split on the origin of the structure: some believe it is a manmade road or foundation while others assert it is natural beach rock, which fractured in place. However, a seldom-discussed fact is that a portion of the Bimini Road was removed after a hurricane in 1926.

Before the end of the last Ice Age (12,000-years ago) the ocean levels were at least 300 feet below their current levels. A vast “island” was in the area in those remote times rather than chains of islands. Edgar Cayce referred to Bimini as one of the mountaintops of ancient Atlantis. While few would consider the island a mountain, 12,000-years ago it was one of the highest points on the vast land formation in the region. Bimini and Andros Island, lying about 100 miles to the east of Bimini, were a part of the same island in 10,000 B.C.—called "Poseidia" by Cayce. Cayce related that a Hall of Records containing the records of Atlantis was constructed somewhere in the region. The Hall of Records was in a temple which sunk in 10,000 B.C. and is, according to Cayce, covered by "the slime of ages." This record hall is identical to the one in Egypt under the Sphinx.

Archaeologists have countered that the remains of civilization in the region only go back 7,000 years—or perhaps even less. They have asserted that if a major civilization existed in the area, some of its remains would be found on current land. That assertion has a fundamental flaw. Ancient maritime civilizations typically built their cities and ports on the ocean shores. As related in prior issues of Ancient Mysteries, archaeologists working in South America, the Pacific coast of North America, India, and elsewhere in the world have been discovering the remains of underwater ruins. These ancient maritime civilizations built their cities and ports on coastlines—all of which have been covered by the rising oceans. Given the recent changes in North and South American archaeology—taking the history of habitation in the Americas to 50,000-years ago—it seems likely that ruins would lie in the shallow waters around Bimini.

Source: http://edgarcayce.org/ancient_mysteries/atlantis.asp
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 8:43 PM CST
I have the article somewhere but base on some ones history, Socrates, Plato, or Aristotle. The description was of Ireland. It was Diamond shaped, Green and off the coast of Europe somewhere. I will have to look it up...head banger head banger head banger
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: May 5, 2008, 8:55 PM CST
StressFree wrote:
bump, thanks gingerb for putting up that Edgar Cayce link....I do remember his name from some books in regards to Atlantis and trying to uncover a hidden history.

I just went ahead a did a paste job here:

For some years A.R.E. members and the organization itself have conducted expeditions in search of ruins or any remains of the lost continent of Atlantis. The newest expeditions have been to Andros. Eight expeditions have been to Andros with the 2004 information posted here. In addition, there are 10 free Quicktime video clips from the video documentary available here. A report on the first 2004 expedition to Andros can be found here. Free video from both the Andros Platform and Bimini Road, taken after the 2004 hurricanes, can be found here. The most recent expedition was to both both Bimini and Andros with some spectacular finds made. Information and photos from that trip can be found here.

According to Cayce, Atlantis—located from the Gulf of Mexico to Gibraltar—was destroyed in a final catastrophic event circa 10,000 B.C. The focus of A.R.E. efforts has been in the Bimini area, however, other related locations have also been investigated. Research on the so-called Bimini Road has been hampered as researchers are split on the origin of the structure: some believe it is a manmade road or foundation while others assert it is natural beach rock, which fractured in place. However, a seldom-discussed fact is that a portion of the Bimini Road was removed after a hurricane in 1926.

Before the end of the last Ice Age (12,000-years ago) the ocean levels were at least 300 feet below their current levels. A vast “island” was in the area in those remote times rather than chains of islands. Edgar Cayce referred to Bimini as one of the mountaintops of ancient Atlantis. While few would consider the island a mountain, 12,000-years ago it was one of the highest points on the vast land formation in the region. Bimini and Andros Island, lying about 100 miles to the east of Bimini, were a part of the same island in 10,000 B.C.—called "Poseidia" by Cayce. Cayce related that a Hall of Records containing the records of Atlantis was constructed somewhere in the region. The Hall of Records was in a temple which sunk in 10,000 B.C. and is, according to Cayce, covered by "the slime of ages." This record hall is identical to the one in Egypt under the Sphinx.

Archaeologists have countered that the remains of civilization in the region only go back 7,000 years—or perhaps even less. They have asserted that if a major civilization existed in the area, some of its remains would be found on current land. That assertion has a fundamental flaw. Ancient maritime civilizations typically built their cities and ports on the ocean shores. As related in prior issues of Ancient Mysteries, archaeologists working in South America, the Pacific coast of North America, India, and elsewhere in the world have been discovering the remains of underwater ruins. These ancient maritime civilizations built their cities and ports on coastlines—all of which have been covered by the rising oceans. Given the recent changes in North and South American archaeology—taking the history of habitation in the Americas to 50,000-years ago—it seems likely that ruins would lie in the shallow waters around Bimini.

Source: http://edgarcayce.org/ancient_mysteries/atlantis.asp




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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:04 AM CST
I do think there is something to this legend--a city that was probably destroyed my a sunami and covered by the sea-- But it is a legend, and as is typical with legends, blown up into mythical portions. smile
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Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:13 AM CST
I googled this, it is just a small tid bit of a larger article...

According to Rainer Kühne, a German physicist, satellite photos of southern Spain suggest that the "island" of Atlantis was in fact a region of the southern Spanish coast that was destroyed by a flood between 800 B.C. and 500 B.C.

"These satellite photos show rectangular structures and concentric circles that match very well with Plato's description of the palaces and the city of Atlantis," said Kühne, whose research was reported in the journal Antiquity.

But Ulf Erlingsson, a Swedish geographer, believes Plato combined elements from different times and places in the background description for his utopia. The distribution of the Atlantean empire seems to match that of the megaliths (large rough stone monuments) in Western Europe and North Africa. The geographic description of the island Atlantis, he suggests, is based on an island that is still standing today—Ireland.

"Just like Atlantis, Ireland is 300 miles [480 kilometers] long, 200 miles [320 kilometers] wide, and features a central plain that is open to the sea," said Erlingsson, the author of Atlantis From a Geographer's Perspective: Mapping the Fairy Land.

"I have looked at geographical data of the whole world. Of the 50 largest islands, Ireland is the only one that matches Plato's description of the landscape," he added.

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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA
Posted: May 7, 2008, 12:58 AM CST
I only have a few issues with that Red.

All of the data suggests that it is in the bottom of the Atlantic ocean. Froom some parts of my Edgar Cayce book:

"There was an anthropological gap form 7000 to 30.000 years ago when anything could have been possible. for all we know. Whole cities and successions of cities had been buried before, as many different layers of Troy revealed - so why not a whole country or continent? From magnetic grains, from fossilremains, from layers of earth crust, we know the earth goes back millions of years, and yet we have no certain knowledge of what happened only yesterday, geologically.

Cayce had seen 3 periods of destruction. the first 2 about 15,600B.C when the mainland was divided into islands, and the last about 10,000B.C. when a group of 3 large islands along with some lesser were swallowed up overnight as Plato had suggested."

I can't possibly re-type everything word for word, but it also states about it being the size of Europe including Asia..."Asia in Europe". I'm taking my book with me so that I can make some notes. I'll post more on it as soon as I can though.


As for my belief on whether or not it existed...I do believe it did. I believe that there's plenty of evidence to suggest that it did. Not only that, but there are some places in coastal Europe that have an undefinable power about them that are mysteries as well as powerful. Could they have been part of Atlantis at one time? Who knows, but it's a possibility that you can't rule out.
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Serenity1971
Serenity's Island, Arizona USA
Posted: May 7, 2008, 1:01 AM CST
Serenity1971 wrote:
I only have a few issues with that Red.

All of the data suggests that it is in the bottom of the Atlantic ocean. Froom some parts of my Edgar Cayce book:

"There was an anthropological gap form 7000 to 30.000 years ago when anything could have been possible. for all we know. Whole cities and successions of cities had been buried before, as many different layers of Troy revealed - so why not a whole country or continent? From magnetic grains, from fossilremains, from layers of earth crust, we know the earth goes back millions of years, and yet we have no certain knowledge of what happened only yesterday, geologically.

Cayce had seen 3 periods of destruction. the first 2 about 15,600B.C when the mainland was divided into islands, and the last about 10,000B.C. when a group of 3 large islands along with some lesser were swallowed up overnight as Plato had suggested."

I can't possibly re-type everything word for word, but it also states about it being the size of Europe including Asia..."Asia in Europe". I'm taking my book with me so that I can make some notes. I'll post more on it as soon as I can though.As for my belief on whether or not it existed...I do believe it did. I believe that there's plenty of evidence to suggest that it did. Not only that, but there are some places in coastal Europe that have an undefinable power about them that are mysteries as well as powerful. Could they have been part of Atlantis at one time? Who knows, but it's a possibility that you can't rule out.



Also I forgot to add the research that they've been doing in the area of the Bahamas. It's been turning up some pretty interesting things.

Maybe what's known as the Bermuda triangle is a portal of sorts from what used to be Atlantis!?!
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Posted: May 7, 2008, 1:53 AM CST
Well, don't exactly know how the ancients viewed things as far as that goes, you have played the gossip game, the story is quite different at the end of the line. It is all speculation based on stories and myths...dancing banana
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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: May 7, 2008, 2:06 AM CST
Must take the time to read up on it.. at the moment I am inclined to need something more in the way of proof... must defo check it out though... very interesting.. .well we know that very sophisticated ancient civilisations did exist (Mayans e.g.) so not impossible, lack of archealogical evidence doesn't necessarily make it less so.. normally though some (if even only minute) evidence endures... history has a way of leaving clues.. as if willing itself to endure

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j_goose71
Over there, Ohio USA
Posted: May 7, 2008, 7:00 AM CST
I remember reading something about polar shifting. And that there was possible evidence of rainforests under the polar caps.

Which makes me wonder if the land/sea areas are reversed from where they were in the past. Which could mean that there are entire civilizations lost under what we cal the "ocean" now.
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StressFree
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Posted: May 7, 2008, 7:14 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
I remember reading something about polar shifting. And that there was possible evidence of rainforests under the polar caps.

Which makes me wonder if the land/sea areas are reversed from where they were in the past. Which could mean that there are entire civilizations lost under what we cal the "ocean" now.


Goose, you are in luck. Funny how I was reading this book about the researchers of Atlantis. I went ahead and typed what the book said pertaining to your idea of polar shifting. Here you go:

"The American researcher Charles Hapgood claimed the surface of the Earth had moved by some 3,000 miles around 10000BC. Rocks that contain iron act like a compass. As the molten rock cools, the molecules align with the north pole and even if those rocks are moved they continue to hold that connection. This allowed Hapgood to establish that before abut 10000BC the physical north pole had been located on the land in the region occupied today by the Hudson Bay in Canada.
But something happened around that time that moved the whole surface of the Earth 3,000 miles to the south, thus relocating the land of the then North Pole to the Hudson Bay area. This is not as fantastic as it at first sounds. The land surface, or crust, of the planet, is only about 40 miles thick. It has been likened to the skin of and orange resting on a sea of molten lava. If a meteor or another major body impacted the Earth it could cause the crust to slide and, according to writer and researcher, Colin Wilson, there is geological evidence that this has happened three times in the last 10,000 years.

Measurements of the Earth's magnetic field have shown that the north and south magnetic poles hae changed places at least 171 times in the past 76 million years and imagine the effect of a magnetic pole shift on the weather alone."

Source: Colin Wilson, "Atlantis: At last, could this be the true secret of the lost continent".
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Posted: May 7, 2008, 8:07 AM CST
They choke on a gnat but swallow a camel!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Tacoma area, Washington USA
Posted: May 7, 2008, 10:01 AM CST
j_goose71 wrote:
I remember reading something about polar shifting. And that there was possible evidence of rainforests under the polar caps.

Which makes me wonder if the land/sea areas are reversed from where they were in the past. Which could mean that there are entire civilizations lost under what we cal the "ocean" now.


One of my favorite subjects! Our MotherEarth, the little blue spaceship, now hurtling through space at around Mach-57, while spinning at Mach-1.3... where did she start and when? (4 billion years best estimate; this universe, 12 billion)

The rock record and 600,000 year old ice cores give us a lot of clues. The early air samples trapped in the old ice are quite informative.

The very old maps that show the actual coastline of Antactica, which has recently been confirmed by satelite, likely not always so barren. The record also indicates that the current continets came from one larger, older, main continent.

The many geographical shifts of the poles and the outright swapping of north for south as shown by the rock record.

The many different sea levels and uplifting of land areas... some quite recent. (There are parts of Cuba where you walk among cactus and coral on the trail down to the coastline)

So, when the poles swap... is it the skin that shifts, or the molten core?

What happens to old stars that simply burn out? Could they cool down and become havens for life, captured in another star's gravity?

Yes, i believe that very advanced civilizations have thrived here before, then gone... why not Atlantis?

"Facinating, Jim!"
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