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Posted: Apr 29, 2008, 8:12 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
Too flamin RIGHT!

(ermm I haven't read the rest yet)

Hellooooooo


Claayer!! hug teddy bear How are you, hon? angel
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Posted: Apr 29, 2008, 8:37 PM CST
prncss4someone wrote:
I never judged, just told her to get her OWN life....I can put myself in both women's places....one woman, unknowing, everything is fine in her life.....the other woman, masked by a man's control, in robo.....I have the capacity to feel sorry for both. However, the way the op posted, it was more of a pity party type post, and I think that is where the problem lies. No one feels sorry for her-stealing moments with another's man....another woman who cares for him, has his kids and takes care of her family...I highly doubt what he tells the op about her is the truth.

This, my friend, comes from experience. Only, I never felt sorry for myself. I did learn a lot about this type of situation, and it is invaluable experience. The only thing that I can say in my defense is the person in question was "going through a divorce"... Didn't take me long to figure out that this was just a line from him...I'm quite sure I never broke his heart when I left, his wife is the one that had his heart....sadly, I'm sure that I wasn't the last.....

jms...........


Men lie about wives, make them out to be terrible, then stay with them, to get their cake and eat it, too. Wives can be great with the kids, the family, be boring, or just know the guy.

After years, he steps out. Does the op think the wife doesn't know? She knows. She puts up with it and expects him to come home. She may not say anything. If she's fed up, or he takes it too far, she'll divorce him.

My ex left with a toothbrush and hit the "no-tell" motel. I filed for a divorce. He didn't want a divorce, he wanted to play without guilt, then come home. Bullshit.

He tried to play me, during the divorce and tried to get me back, after he married the girlfriend, when the ink was barely dry. He tried again, after he was bored with her.

The man would screw anyone who fell for his BS. He's on wife number 3, fat, bald and takes Viagra. He's never lived alone. Maybe he'll learn to appreciate his current wife.

Our daughter is getting married in a few months. He'll seek me out, stand around like a 12-year-old and I'll roll my eyes. His wife will ask me about his past and why his daughter is not enamored by his charm, like everyone else. My daughter and I know the real man, not the suave, charming dude he presents. I hate that guy. That's the guy who sleeps with everything in a dress, needs an ego boost and we can't stand.

I feel sorry for wife number 3.
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: Apr 29, 2008, 8:41 PM CST
Claayer wrote:
Oops! 2 Effing Close
Farkoff
Cornwall
UK


29th April 2008 Dear Mr Indy,

I am writing to ask permission to use one of your favourite phrases.
I don't give a flying f*ck
It is also one of my own.

I hope this request is acceptable to you, and that you will not be requiring payment of royalties.Yours Sincerely

Claayer




I'll give you a life time pass to use "flying f-ck" anytime you want. applause But, use it in a respectful way.


Mr. F-ck laugh
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Bowie
winter haven, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 29, 2008, 8:42 PM CST
I would have been happier if you didn't start post with MEN LIE.
It is a 2 way street. Women lie too. Other than that, you have my sympathies. Been there, done that, burned the t-shirt. no, literally.
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j_goose71
Over there USA
Posted: Apr 29, 2008, 9:07 PM CST
AngelEyes2244 wrote:


So now, for the past 5 years (almost as long as Joe has been married) we've been carrying on a relationship behind his wife's back. He's unhappy with her but does not make false promises that he has plans of leaving her. I'm ok with this for the most part except I don't get the time I'd like to have with him. I don't get to do normal couple stuff with him like go out on dates, spend the night together, take him to my friend's weddings. I have to spend time with him outside of our hometown for fear that someone who knows his wife will see us together and she'll find out. I want her to find out, I want her to know that he loves me, that he wants me and that she's not enough for him. She treats him like he's a doormat and I can't stand it. She takes advantage of him and I just wish I could do something about it. My heart is completely invested in him and that's why I can't seem to find someone else who I can be with.

Bottom line, I have no idea what to do.. Any suggestions??????

Thanks everyone!!

Calli


Are you farking SERIOUS???? It was a good story until I got to this part.^^

I sure hope he payed you. I can't believe some people. There's plenty of fish in the sea, and you had to go and fish in someone else's pond......

Remind me not to email this one.

I like chicks with morals.
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kidatheart
Southern BC/Lamont, Alberta Canada
Posted: Apr 29, 2008, 9:19 PM CST
When this sort of thing happens, do people ever really get over it?
I've never cheated on anyone and have never been cheated on (to my knowledge) by anyone.
Can a person move on with their life and meet someone without a past experience like that getting in the way?dunno
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kidatheart
Southern BC/Lamont, Alberta Canada
Posted: Apr 29, 2008, 9:39 PM CST
kidatheart wrote:
When this sort of thing happens, do people ever really get over it?
I've never cheated on anyone and have never been cheated on (to my knowledge) by anyone.
Can a person move on with their life and meet someone without a past experience like that getting in the way?



Perhaps I should rephrase the question.

Does anyone like ice cream?laugh
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Posted: Apr 29, 2008, 11:34 PM CST
kidatheart wrote:
When this sort of thing happens, do people ever really get over it?
I've never cheated on anyone and have never been cheated on (to my knowledge) by anyone.
Can a person move on with their life and meet someone without a past experience like that getting in the way?


I think betrayal is life-long. Trust is the most precious thing to share. If it's stomped on, discarded and trashed, it hard to give it out.

If you've never had it happen, you're lucky.

I don't think anyone truly gets over it. I think they make an effort to be open.
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RobbieM
Hertford, Hertfordshire, England UK
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 12:22 AM CST
Here's my penneth, for whats it worth.........

Yeah you might love him, but he married someone else and has a family and are you willing to break this up ?

Like has already been stated, this man is having an affair with you, what makes you think that he will be faithful to you, assuming everything works out to your hope and he leaves his wife.

Have you ever been cheated apon? Did this tear you apart? Well for many having this done to them is to put it bluntly a psychological trauma, that takes ages to recover from and trust in people of the opposite sex basically are you happy to inflict this on another person?

If he doesnt leave his wife how many excuses will you endure before ending basically using you for additional sex outside his marriage?

What happens if his wife names you as the reason for the break up of the marriage?

What happens if you fall pregnant to this man? I suspect and fear that the possibility that he may leave you in a terrible position is more than 50/50.

The most sensible approach is end the affair, let the man make his decision on his marriage without any influence from you, as his marriage wether good bad or indifferent is between him and his spouse.

I'm not being judgemental but its far safer to find a man who isnt involved already.Some things arent meant to be, and i have first hand experience of your deliema myself, but theres one difference, even though i dearly loved her i wouldnt even try to break up her family or marriage to just well get what i wanted.

Move on or you will have years of regret, and there could be consequences if you dont, from his wife.

Has as already been said there are plenty more fish in the sea.

Good luck, but i'd end it as fast as possible if i were you.

comfort
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constanza
Los Angeles, California USA
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 12:35 AM CST

Calli, at the risk of sounding a lil harsh I personally feel that Joe does not love you as you are imagining; he left you in the beginning, came back and again the same old same old.... and currently you are selling yourself short - accomodating him and his needs and problems. Do you matter? confused
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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 2:12 AM CST
AngelEyes2244 wrote:
weighing on my mind very heavily for the past 8 years.. Yes I said 8 years....

The reason I'm starting to date again is because for the past 8 years I've been in love with the same man. It all started when I was 17 years old and my first boyfriend, the first guy I ever truely loved broke my heart. I had a neighbor. My neighbor was 27. We started hanging out, he gave me advice, explained to me that thigns like this happen and while it sucks there will always be someone better.

As time went on my neighbor, we'll call him Joe, and I became closer and closer and a certain chemisty that neither of us could deny ensued. We fought it until finally one night I was sitting out on his back deck late into the night with him and he kissed me. My heart skipped a beat, it was the most passionate, sensual, gentle amazing kiss I had ever felt. That was it, I was hooked. Joe and I fooled around, and saw eachother for quite sometime after that until he moved away. We tried to keep in touch but things tapered off. When he finally came back I was in a great relationship with a great guy who pulled me out of a very dark place in my life... Then Joe came back. I told him about this wonderful man who rescued me from myself and he was happy for me. Because I was in this relationship I failed to tell Joe how I felt about him. Then Joe got his roommate pregnant and they got married.

Not too long down the line me and that great guy went our separate ways and I got the courage to tell Joe how I really felt about him. The only problem was that it was too late. Joe was already married to this wreched woman who treated him like dirt.

I am sorry to have to say but Kissme is right.. and this guy is a manipulative coward.. he wants to have his cake and eat it.. the person he choses to remain with is his wife.... what does that say?... its an age old excuse.. used by countless men who want to play on the side.. "my wife doesn't understand me, my wife doesn't treat me right".. .dump him!! that is the only realistic way of finding out.. though I wouldn't even bother with him then.... cause you will never be able to trust him..

Also ask yourself this.. why are you depending on men to 'make you feel better'... happiness and self worth has to come from within..

hug

So now, for the past 5 years (almost as long as Joe has been married) we've been carrying on a relationship behind his wife's back. He's unhappy with her but does not make false promises that he has plans of leaving her. I'm ok with this for the most part except I don't get the time I'd like to have with him. I don't get to do normal couple stuff with him like go out on dates, spend the night together, take him to my friend's weddings. I have to spend time with him outside of our hometown for fear that someone who knows his wife will see us together and she'll find out. I want her to find out, I want her to know that he loves me, that he wants me and that she's not enough for him. She treats him like he's a doormat and I can't stand it. She takes advantage of him and I just wish I could do something about it. My heart is completely invested in him and that's why I can't seem to find someone else who I can be with.

Bottom line, I have no idea what to do.. Any suggestions??????

Thanks everyone!!

Calli
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Aries01
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 2:13 AM CST
I am sorry to have to say but Kissme is right.. and this guy is a manipulative coward.. he wants to have his cake and eat it.. the person he choses to remain with is his wife.... what does that say?... its an age old excuse.. used by countless men who want to play on the side.. "my wife doesn't understand me, my wife doesn't treat me right".. .dump him!! that is the only realistic way of finding out.. though I wouldn't even bother with him then.... cause you will never be able to trust him..

Also ask yourself this.. why are you depending on men to 'make you feel better'... happiness and self worth has to come from within..


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dcj22
Somewhere, Minnesota USA
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 2:24 AM CST
RobbieM wrote:
Here's my penneth, for whats it worth.........

Yeah you might love him, but he married someone else and has a family and are you willing to break this up ?

Like has already been stated, this man is having an affair with you, what makes you think that he will be faithful to you, assuming everything works out to your hope and he leaves his wife.

Have you ever been cheated apon? Did this tear you apart? Well for many having this done to them is to put it bluntly a psychological trauma, that takes ages to recover from and trust in people of the opposite sex basically are you happy to inflict this on another person?

If he doesnt leave his wife how many excuses will you endure before ending basically using you for additional sex outside his marriage?

What happens if his wife names you as the reason for the break up of the marriage?

What happens if you fall pregnant to this man? I suspect and fear that the possibility that he may leave you in a terrible position is more than 50/50.

The most sensible approach is end the affair, let the man make his decision on his marriage without any influence from you, as his marriage wether good bad or indifferent is between him and his spouse.

I'm not being judgemental but its far safer to find a man who isnt involved already.Some things arent meant to be, and i have first hand experience of your deliema myself, but theres one difference, even though i dearly loved her i wouldnt even try to break up her family or marriage to just well get what i wanted.

Move on or you will have years of regret, and there could be consequences if you dont, from his wife.

Has as already been said there are plenty more fish in the sea.

Good luck, but i'd end it as fast as possible if i were you.




Very nicely stated, Robbie. hug
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Zellarrone1
Hull, Humberside, England UK
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 4:01 AM CST
AngelEyes2244 wrote:
weighing on my mind very heavily for the past 8 years.. Yes I said 8 years....

The reason I'm starting to date again is because for the past 8 years I've been in love with the same man. It all started when I was 17 years old and my first boyfriend, the first guy I ever truely loved broke my heart. I had a neighbor. My neighbor was 27. We started hanging out, he gave me advice, explained to me that thigns like this happen and while it sucks there will always be someone better.

As time went on my neighbor, we'll call him Joe, and I became closer and closer and a certain chemisty that neither of us could deny ensued. We fought it until finally one night I was sitting out on his back deck late into the night with him and he kissed me. My heart skipped a beat, it was the most passionate, sensual, gentle amazing kiss I had ever felt. That was it, I was hooked. Joe and I fooled around, and saw eachother for quite sometime after that until he moved away. We tried to keep in touch but things tapered off. When he finally came back I was in a great relationship with a great guy who pulled me out of a very dark place in my life... Then Joe came back. I told him about this wonderful man who rescued me from myself and he was happy for me. Because I was in this relationship I failed to tell Joe how I felt about him. Then Joe got his roommate pregnant and they got married.

Not too long down the line me and that great guy went our separate ways and I got the courage to tell Joe how I really felt about him. The only problem was that it was too late. Joe was already married to this wreched woman who treated him like dirt.

So now, for the past 5 years (almost as long as Joe has been married) we've been carrying on a relationship behind his wife's back. He's unhappy with her but does not make false promises that he has plans of leaving her. I'm ok with this for the most part except I don't get the time I'd like to have with him. I don't get to do normal couple stuff with him like go out on dates, spend the night together, take him to my friend's weddings. I have to spend time with him outside of our hometown for fear that someone who knows his wife will see us together and she'll find out. I want her to find out, I want her to know that he loves me, that he wants me and that she's not enough for him. She treats him like he's a doormat and I can't stand it. She takes advantage of him and I just wish I could do something about it. My heart is completely invested in him and that's why I can't seem to find someone else who I can be with.

Bottom line, I have no idea what to do.. Any suggestions??????

Thanks everyone!!

Calli
hmmm It definitely sounds as if he's stringing you along and not into you that much. I mean if he had been that madly in love with you then you wouldn't have parted in the first place (or him moved away or whatever it was you said).

If I was you and he was great in bed then I'd just string him along and use him as a "marriage friend with benefits" but I'd keep an eye open for someone better who is single and less hassle. Then once I got my claws and fangs into them I'd poke the married one preferably over an high cliff. A quick poke in his back with my prong devil whilst he's looking the other way would do the trick.

I wouldn't really care less about his wife unless she was a personal friend of mine plus I'm not a moral person at all. But, I would have to get even with him for being such a player. You need to plan a good revenge devil
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RobbieM
Hertford, Hertfordshire, England UK
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 4:02 AM CST
dcj22 wrote:
Very nicely stated, Robbie.


Thanks dear.

I made the choice of driving instructor over the career as a counsellor 2 years ago!

I chose option 1 so i didn't have a constant stream of upsetting stories to deal with, which ultimately would have torn me to bits, i think.sigh
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jimbhoy
In Glasgow, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 7:40 AM CST
kissmedeeply wrote:
I hate when people make excuse for cheating..



I dont cheat....................................





















Except at strip pokerrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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kissmedeeply
Asheville, North Carolina, North Carolina USA
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 8:17 AM CST
Aries01 wrote:
I am sorry to have to say but Kissme is right.. and this guy is a manipulative coward.. he wants to have his cake and eat it.. the person he choses to remain with is his wife.... what does that say?... its an age old excuse.. used by countless men who want to play on the side.. "my wife doesn't understand me, my wife doesn't treat me right".. .dump him!! that is the only realistic way of finding out.. though I wouldn't even bother with him then.... cause you will never be able to trust him..

Also ask yourself this.. why are you depending on men to 'make you feel better'... happiness and self worth has to come from within..
Hey Sweetie..i lurvveee to be right..but wish i wasnt in something that is so sad and ridiculous...I hate to see anyone go through this...man/woman/children....thumbs down
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kissmedeeply
Asheville, North Carolina, North Carolina USA
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 8:20 AM CST
jimbhoy wrote:
I dont cheat....................................
Except at strip poker
scold You cheat you bad man
























cheater cheater cheater...help No excuse Jimgrin
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Claayer
Wild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 8:28 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
I'll give you a life time pass to use "flying f-ck" anytime you want. But, use it in a respectful way.Mr. F-ck


ahahaha.. why thankyooooo thumbs up
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uk_man_31
norwich, Norfolk, England UK
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 8:38 AM CST
kissmedeeply wrote:
I know you wont want to hear this..but here i go...messing arouond with another womans man is a no no...put the shoe on the other foot..it dont matter how you feel about him..He is Married..off limits..he wont leave her come on..that is the oldest line in the book..You will be the one to get hurt...and you are hurting another and the family..Best advice Leave and dont keep doing what you are doing.


I totally agree sounds to me like hes having his cake and eating it. Us men can be totally capable of happily maintaining more than one relationship at one time, the question is wether we chose to or not. This becomes perfectly clear when you talk to gay men, although not all gay men are unfaithful but they are very premisques(did I spell that right)well they like to funk a lot.
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