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RobbieM
Hertford, England UK
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 10:30 PM CST
Now i know Americans are very proud about the right of free speech but i wonder if they approve of the right to make a comedy movie about an event like 911.

Now i havent seen this, and i wont watch it as making a joke out of thousands of people dying isnt in my opinion funny and furthermore in incredible bad taste.

Apparently they also use genuine footage as well.

Truly this has to be an example of just because you can does it it mean you should?

Would you watch the movie or even defend the makers right to make the movie?

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Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 10:34 PM CST
This is new to me but I won't watch it either..
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Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 10:48 PM CST
RobbieM wrote:
Now i know Americans are very proud about the right of free speech but i wonder if they approve of the right to make a comedy movie about an event like 911.

Now i havent seen this, and i wont watch it as making a joke out of thousands of people dying isnt in my opinion funny and furthermore in incredible bad taste.

Apparently they also use genuine footage as well.

Truly this has to be an example of just because you can does it it mean you should?

Would you watch the movie or even defend the makers right to make the movie?

I would not see such a movie or defend the right of any one making a movie like that . Really because 9/11 killed a whole world and americans are the whole world.

I would see funny movies a bout how some bad ass politicians abused 9/11 and became "heroes" all of a sudden even they were not a damn thing than major ass holes and crooks and liers and enjoy that becoming a "hero" all of a sudden as well! But still thinking a bout the happening it self will give me a bad feeling any way and I would have difficulties to laugh at all.

Real heroes were all those inoncent human beings whom parished so unfairly that day and all those whom lost their presious lives when they tired to save some people from those buildings and all those whom have lost their lives after that because of the searching after survivors and still are suffering terrible health and not getting propper help from the Bushney,s administration at all!

I would think a bout any body trying to make a funny movie a bout 9/11 as a real monster whom disrespect the families and love ones of all those humans gone for ever!

If any body makes a "funny" movie a bout the war in Iraq that person is also a monster and a savage Wolf dressed as a man!I will not be wonder if some stupied criminal minded people trying to make such a movie some day any way.........

Some happenings in human history is not and will never be funny . That day is over but still a deep Sore will remain for ever and must not be laughed a bout ever dunno
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dcj22
Manchester, Tennessee USA
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 11:43 PM CST
I would defend their right to make the movie, the same as I'd defend my right to protest it.
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desmond
kissimmee, Florida USA
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 11:45 PM CST
I will never go to that movie I lost friends in 911 I knew some of the firefighter who died trying to say people there is nothing funny about 911
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anjel
tempe, Arizona USA
Posted: Apr 30, 2008, 11:55 PM CST
RobbieM wrote:
Now i know Americans are very proud about the right of free speech but i wonder if they approve of the right to make a comedy movie about an event like 911.

Now i havent seen this, and i wont watch it as making a joke out of thousands of people dying isnt in my opinion funny and furthermore in incredible bad taste.

Apparently they also use genuine footage as well.

Truly this has to be an example of just because you can does it it mean you should?

Would you watch the movie or even defend the makers right to make the movie?


yes, I would watch it, more like a researcher would. Oh gosh, I may have to for my Cinema class now that I am thinking about it. Whats the name of it?
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 1, 2008, 12:03 AM CST
RobbieM wrote:
Now i know Americans are very proud about the right of free speech but i wonder if they approve of the right to make a comedy movie about an event like 911.

Now i havent seen this, and i wont watch it as making a joke out of thousands of people dying isnt in my opinion funny and furthermore in incredible bad taste.

Apparently they also use genuine footage as well.

Truly this has to be an example of just because you can does it it mean you should?

Would you watch the movie or even defend the makers right to make the movie?


Are you sure someone is making this movie, or is it just a rumor? Can't imagine someone actually thinking this is a good idea.
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RobbieM
Hertford, England UK
Posted: May 1, 2008, 12:53 AM CST
Portiea wrote:
Are you sure someone is making this movie, or is it just a rumor? Can't imagine someone actually thinking this is a good idea.


They were talking about it on the radio early this morning, and there's apparently a trailer on the net from the conversation i heard, so it would appear someone's made one.

I agree its in incredible bad taste and incredibly disrespectful to the victims and families of that episode in modern history.
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 1, 2008, 1:01 AM CST
RobbieM wrote:
They were talking about it on the radio early this morning, and there's apparently a trailer on the net from the conversation i heard, so it would appear someone's made one.

I agree its in incredible bad taste and incredibly disrespectful to the victims and families of that episode in modern history.


It's unbelieveable.very mad
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Indyfella
indianapolis, Indiana USA
Posted: May 1, 2008, 5:35 AM CST


It's hard to find humor in people jumping 70 stories to their death to keep from being engulfed in flames. Nor can I find humor in people being crushed to death.

The humor just isn't there. I can find humor in almost any situation, but not in this topic. Still, if someone wants to make a comedy of it, go for it. Hope no one goes to see it though. rolling eyes
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RobbieM
Hertford, England UK
Posted: May 1, 2008, 5:37 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
It's hard to find humor in people jumping 70 stories to their death to keep from being engulfed in flames. Nor can I find humor in people being crushed to death.

The humor just isn't there. I can find humor in almost any situation, but not in this topic. Still, if someone wants to make a comedy of it, go for it. Hope no one goes to see it though.


My thoughts exactly, i hope it makes them bankrupt, now that would be funny.
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RobbieM
Hertford, England UK
Posted: May 1, 2008, 5:46 AM CST
US moviegoers grit their teeth for 9/11: the comedies

By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
Sunday, 20 April 2008

We've had the earnest, ponderous round of films about post-9/11 America – and most of them have sunk without trace at the box office. Now, barely six years after the attacks that triggered two wars and sent America's international reputation plummeting, it's time for the comedies.

There's no guarantee, of course, that these will fare any better, but, with some, that won't be for the want of an almost heroic lack of taste. They could just put to rest the opinion, put forward by Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter and much echoed among America's intellectual elite, that September 11 made irony impossible.

Take Postal, a crass comedy of al-Qa'ida manners directed by Uwe Boll, a man frequently honoured with the label "worst film-maker alive". The film starts with two September 11 hijackers arguing about the exact number of virgins awaiting them as martyrs in paradise. They raise Osama bin Laden himself on their cellphone and, when he tells them they can expect no more than 20 virgins, they decide to change course and head to the Bahamas.

Funny? Maybe not. But it is more or less guaranteed to cause enough offence to spill days' or weeks' worth of ink in the gossip press and on cable news. Bin Laden is played by Larry Thomas, who was the infamous "soup Nazi" on Seinfeld. It also features, if you please, "a gang of bosomy commandos who face off against Bin Laden and the Taliban in an epic battle that will determine the fate of the world."

If that doesn't sound moronic enough, then try Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay, latest in a burgeoning film series about two irredeemable potheads and their adventures. It's been widely described as "Cheech and Chong meet the war on terror", and human rights campaigners concerned about everything from suicides to due process at the Guantanamo prison camp are not amused. And then there's Zombie Strippers, which casts the porn actress Jenna Jameson in an explicit caper which begins with the US military reviving dead soldiers to carrying on fighting in Iraq.

More obviously engaging is Morgan Spurlock's follow-up to his hit documentary about fast-food hell, Super Size Me. The new film, out this weekend in the United States, is called Where in the World Is Osama bin Laden? and it follows Spurlock on his travels to Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Afghanistan and Pakistan on the decidedly whimsical trail of America's most wanted man. He doesn't find him, of course, but he speaks to enough ordinary Middle Easterners – everyone from rug salesmen to imams – to demystify both Bin Laden himself and the Middle East as a whole.

Perhaps the most promising of the upcoming crop is War Inc., a zany satire about war profiteering starring and co-written by John Cusack. It's the story of a hit man hired by a company not unlike Halliburton to take over an entire Middle Eastern country.

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Scottishlass
Knoxville, Tennessee USA
Posted: May 1, 2008, 5:56 AM CST
RobbieM wrote:
Now i know Americans are very proud about the right of free speech but i wonder if they approve of the right to make a comedy movie about an event like 911.

Now i havent seen this, and i wont watch it as making a joke out of thousands of people dying isnt in my opinion funny and furthermore in incredible bad taste.

Apparently they also use genuine footage as well.

Truly this has to be an example of just because you can does it it mean you should?

Would you watch the movie or even defend the makers right to make the movie?
I have not heard about this movie yet, but if it is true I will not watch it. I agree that is in incredibly poor taste to even think about making fun of such a tragic event.

Yes, it is true we have the right to free speech and there are some IDIOTS that will take advantage of it. I could not, in good conscious defend such an action. Having the right to free speech myself, I would have to excersise my right and naysay this "movie".

You are right in stating just because we can, it doesn't mean we should.
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Fallingman
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Posted: May 1, 2008, 6:05 AM CST
It seems to me that there are a number of different genres and approaches involved here. Personally I quite like bad taste movies and I agree that free speech involves allowing the right to others to make crap movies.....think American Pie for example??? We don't have to go to them of course!

I find it amazing that original footage would be used. That would be a seriously tasteless and hurtful thing to do. I don't really believe that. The TV companies own most of that footage and control it. They would be crazy to allow it.

I query the "difference" of 9/11 though. If you can make comedies about the second world war "Catch 22" or about Korea "MASH" or about other wars then you can make comedies about Al Qaida. Whether anyone finds them funny is another matter. Also it is a bit close to the event to be doing anything like that in my view.

If you analyse the examples listed above: Postal sounds moronic and offensive to both the 9/11 victims and to Muslims, the Guantanamo film sounds like it is offensive to illegally held prisoners and their families, Zombie Strippers sounds offensive to Americans, Iraqis and families of soldiers wounded or killed in the war, Where is Osama sounds like it might be embarrassing to Bush and his Secret Service/Security aparatus, and War Inc sounds like fair comment to me!!! In other words just the usual bunch of baloney from Hollywood.

One thing this thread implies and I have a problem with is the "difference" of 9/11. It is only different because it happened to Americans so I can thoroughly understand Americans feeling it is the worst thing that ever happened. The rest of us co-operate with this notion because of the power and prestige of the US and because it was a big shock that it could happen at all. However, if the truth be told it is just one major atrocity in a century of the same. Many worse ones in scale get little coverage and even Iraq (where hundreds of times as many people have died) doesn't have the same impact because it was not a world power attacked suddenly - just a stock Hollywood evil dictator. We are all humans with the same right to life. If it is ok to make a movie like Rambo killing loads of foreigners in some other country why is it not ok to make a movie about 9/11? (in principal anyway)

Anyway...we are talking about it...so the movie publicists will be happy!!

Your thoughts Rob? wave
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Portiea
Konstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany
Posted: May 1, 2008, 6:20 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
It seems to me that there are a number of different genres and approaches involved here. Personally I quite like bad taste movies and I agree that free speech involves allowing the right to others to make crap movies.....think American Pie for example??? We don't have to go to them of course!

I find it amazing that original footage would be used. That would be a seriously tasteless and hurtful thing to do. I don't really believe that. The TV companies own most of that footage and control it. They would be crazy to allow it.

I query the "difference" of 9/11 though. If you can make comedies about the second world war "Catch 22" or about Korea "MASH" or about other wars then you can make comedies about Al Qaida. Whether anyone finds them funny is another matter. Also it is a bit close to the event to be doing anything like that in my view.

If you analyse the examples listed above: Postal sounds moronic and offensive to both the 9/11 victims and to Muslims, the Guantanamo film sounds like it is offensive to illegally held prisoners and their families, Zombie Strippers sounds offensive to Americans, Iraqis and families of soldiers wounded or killed in the war, Where is Osama sounds like it might be embarrassing to Bush and his Secret Service/Security aparatus, and War Inc sounds like fair comment to me!!! In other words just the usual bunch of baloney from Hollywood.

One thing this thread implies and I have a problem with is the "difference" of 9/11. It is only different because it happened to Americans so I can thoroughly understand Americans feeling it is the worst thing that ever happened. The rest of us co-operate with this notion because of the power and prestige of the US and because it was a big shock that it could happen at all. However, if the truth be told it is just one major atrocity in a century of the same. Many worse ones in scale get little coverage and even Iraq (where hundreds of times as many people have died) doesn't have the same impact because it was not a world power attacked suddenly - just a stock Hollywood evil dictator. We are all humans with the same right to life. If it is ok to make a movie like Rambo killing loads of foreigners in some other country why is it not ok to make a movie about 9/11? (in principal anyway)

Anyway...we are talking about it...so the movie publicists will be happy!!

Your thoughts Rob?


I'm not a fan of bad taste movies, but I do like parody, satire and black comedy, if it's well done and intelligent. Mash and Catch 22 are satires, intelligent and well done. Neither of them, however, focus on a single event but rather on the fact of war itself. Mel Brooks' brilliant black comedy The Producers includes portions of a fictional Broadway play 'Springtime for Hitler' which satirizes the Holocaust--and I believe Brooks is a Jew. It does depend on how this type of thing is done. Americans do seem to think 9/ll is one of the worst things that ever happened, when in fact, as you say it is just one of many attrocites that have happened, even in this decade, much less this century. Far, far more innocent civilians have died since Bush invaded Iraq than died on 9/11, yet Americans seem to see 9/11 as so much worse. I, reluctantly at times, do whole heartedly support free speech--so the best response to this film, once it comes out, is for people to voice their dislike of it in any way possible, except with violence, of course.
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RobbieM
Hertford, England UK
Posted: May 1, 2008, 9:25 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
It seems to me that there are a number of different genres and approaches involved here. Personally I quite like bad taste movies and I agree that free speech involves allowing the right to others to make crap movies.....think American Pie for example??? We don't have to go to them of course!

I find it amazing that original footage would be used. That would be a seriously tasteless and hurtful thing to do. I don't really believe that. The TV companies own most of that footage and control it. They would be crazy to allow it.

I query the "difference" of 9/11 though. If you can make comedies about the second world war "Catch 22" or about Korea "MASH" or about other wars then you can make comedies about Al Qaida. Whether anyone finds them funny is another matter. Also it is a bit close to the event to be doing anything like that in my view.

If you analyse the examples listed above: Postal sounds moronic and offensive to both the 9/11 victims and to Muslims, the Guantanamo film sounds like it is offensive to illegally held prisoners and their families, Zombie Strippers sounds offensive to Americans, Iraqis and families of soldiers wounded or killed in the war, Where is Osama sounds like it might be embarrassing to Bush and his Secret Service/Security aparatus, and War Inc sounds like fair comment to me!!! In other words just the usual bunch of baloney from Hollywood.

One thing this thread implies and I have a problem with is the "difference" of 9/11. It is only different because it happened to Americans so I can thoroughly understand Americans feeling it is the worst thing that ever happened. The rest of us co-operate with this notion because of the power and prestige of the US and because it was a big shock that it could happen at all. However, if the truth be told it is just one major atrocity in a century of the same. Many worse ones in scale get little coverage and even Iraq (where hundreds of times as many people have died) doesn't have the same impact because it was not a world power attacked suddenly - just a stock Hollywood evil dictator. We are all humans with the same right to life. If it is ok to make a movie like Rambo killing loads of foreigners in some other country why is it not ok to make a movie about 9/11? (in principal anyway)

Anyway...we are talking about it...so the movie publicists will be happy!!

Your thoughts Rob?


I have to agree i do love bad taste movies like American Pie and Freddy Got Fingered, basically because there incredibly funny.

Borat was hillarious, and if Saha Coehen can make films like that joking about "Throwing Jews down the well , and stop the Fews hatching from eggs (and in case anyone doesn't realise he's actually Jewish).

Mel Brooks comedy about the Nazi part was hillarious, also another bleak theme but he too is a genius.

I agree as well on your throughts about the Rambo ilk type movie where its ok to slaughter say Russians and in the name of entertainment.

What gets me is they have actually used real footage as was mentioned on the radio last night, but i didnt hear the movie name, but i wont sit there and watch people jumping to their death from a burning for entertainment.

Political comedy's of the type micheal moore put out are far more entertaining, if as some people will say polititcally biased but they have merit, and of course do tell some facts as they are.It's just a shame everything isn't as well made as some of the examples i have mentioned.

There's nothing wrong with Black humour at all, but i think its a new low to make a movie taking the piss out of people dying in a terrible event.

That said i have seen the Trailer for "Zombie Strippers" and it does have the hallmark of being entertaining!!!
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: May 1, 2008, 9:39 AM CST
RobbieM wrote:
I have to agree i do love bad taste movies like American Pie and Freddy Got Fingered, basically because there incredibly funny.

Borat was hillarious, and if Saha Coehen can make films like that joking about "Throwing Jews down the well , and stop the Fews hatching from eggs (and in case anyone doesn't realise he's actually Jewish).

Mel Brooks comedy about the Nazi part was hillarious, also another bleak theme but he too is a genius.

I agree as well on your throughts about the Rambo ilk type movie where its ok to slaughter say Russians and in the name of entertainment.

What gets me is they have actually used real footage as was mentioned on the radio last night, but i didnt hear the movie name, but i wont sit there and watch people jumping to their death from a burning for entertainment.

Political comedy's of the type micheal moore put out are far more entertaining, if as some people will say polititcally biased but they have merit, and of course do tell some facts as they are.It's just a shame everything isn't as well made as some of the examples i have mentioned.

There's nothing wrong with Black humour at all, but i think its a new low to make a movie taking the piss out of people dying in a terrible event.

That said i have seen the Trailer for "Zombie Strippers" and it does have the hallmark of being entertaining!!!


Yes Zombie Strippers sounds like it has some promise....though of course it will offend people whose loved ones are fighting in Iraq. It probably won't offend the Iraqis but who knows.

I still think it is unlikely that real footage will be used in any of these films....that goes a bit beyond bad taste. dunno
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RobbieM
Hertford, England UK
Posted: May 1, 2008, 9:57 AM CST
Fallingman wrote:
Yes Zombie Strippers sounds like it has some promise....though of course it will offend people whose loved ones are fighting in Iraq. It probably won't offend the Iraqis but who knows.

I still think it is unlikely that real footage will be used in any of these films....that goes a bit beyond bad taste.


I'll tune into the same radio show tonight and see if they mention the name of the movie and then we can find out, and then keep well away from the movie if it does in deed use real footage.

Whatever movie they were talking about last night they were really specific and said it used real footage, but i missed the movie nameD'oh!

I far more enjoy well crafted intelligent movies like "Road To Predition" rather than sentimental garbage or insulting stuff though.

There's no accounting for taste though, after all people watch Jack Black movies! Personally i havent seen a good film he's been involved with (ok, i liked King Kong but i was always praying he'd either get eaten by a dinosaur or jumped on my the monkey).

Some people like him, so there's no accounting for taste.
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