Fallingman wrote:It seems to me that there are a number of different genres and approaches involved here. Personally I quite like bad taste movies and I agree that free speech involves allowing the right to others to make crap movies.....think American Pie for example??? We don't have to go to them of course!
I find it amazing that original footage would be used. That would be a seriously tasteless and hurtful thing to do. I don't really believe that. The TV companies own most of that footage and control it. They would be crazy to allow it.
I query the "difference" of 9/11 though. If you can make comedies about the second world war "Catch 22" or about Korea "MASH" or about other wars then you can make comedies about Al Qaida. Whether anyone finds them funny is another matter. Also it is a bit close to the event to be doing anything like that in my view.
If you analyse the examples listed above: Postal sounds moronic and offensive to both the 9/11 victims and to Muslims, the Guantanamo film sounds like it is offensive to illegally held prisoners and their families, Zombie Strippers sounds offensive to Americans, Iraqis and families of soldiers wounded or killed in the war, Where is Osama sounds like it might be embarrassing to Bush and his Secret Service/Security aparatus, and War Inc sounds like fair comment to me!!! In other words just the usual bunch of baloney from Hollywood.
One thing this thread implies and I have a problem with is the "difference" of 9/11. It is only different because it happened to Americans so I can thoroughly understand Americans feeling it is the worst thing that ever happened. The rest of us co-operate with this notion because of the power and prestige of the US and because it was a big shock that it could happen at all. However, if the truth be told it is just one major atrocity in a century of the same. Many worse ones in scale get little coverage and even Iraq (where hundreds of times as many people have died) doesn't have the same impact because it was not a world power attacked suddenly - just a stock Hollywood evil dictator. We are all humans with the same right to life. If it is ok to make a movie like Rambo killing loads of foreigners in some other country why is it not ok to make a movie about 9/11? (in principal anyway)
Anyway...we are talking about it...so the movie publicists will be happy!!
Your thoughts Rob?
I have to agree i do love bad taste movies like American Pie and Freddy Got Fingered, basically because there incredibly funny.
Borat was hillarious, and if Saha Coehen can make films like that joking about "Throwing Jews down the well , and stop the Fews hatching from eggs (and in case anyone doesn't realise he's actually Jewish).
Mel Brooks comedy about the Nazi part was hillarious, also another bleak theme but he too is a genius.
I agree as well on your throughts about the Rambo ilk type movie where its ok to slaughter say Russians and in the name of entertainment.
What gets me is they have actually used real footage as was mentioned on the radio last night, but i didnt hear the movie name, but i wont sit there and watch people jumping to their death from a burning for entertainment.
Political comedy's of the type micheal moore put out are far more entertaining, if as some people will say polititcally biased but they have merit, and of course do tell some facts as they are.It's just a shame everything isn't as well made as some of the examples i have mentioned.
There's nothing wrong with Black humour at all, but i think its a new low to make a movie taking the piss out of people dying in a terrible event.
That said i have seen the Trailer for "Zombie Strippers" and it does have the hallmark of being entertaining!!!